RallyValley Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 (edited) Ok Toby's awesome behaviourist (who is a DOLer that isn't as addicted as some of us are ) sent me this description of a dog that would ideally suit living with Toby, it is a little bit edited to protect privacy and cut out some points not relevant to this thread: Now in regards to him with other dogs and personality type: If he was my dog I'd be inclined to try and find a happy go lucky "bomb proof" kind of personality to go with him... any other dog that is stressy or anxious is not going to be a fabulous match, as they will often arouse and stress each other. A good, solid, laid back playmate would be really beneficial for Toby to have positive dog interactions with. The other thing not to get a breed that can be "in your face" dogs and Toby might find that a bit over the top, as that's the sort of dog he's inclined to dislike. My addition: A breed that is known to resource guard is not a good match. And also please limit suggestions an ANKC breeds only, I am interested to see what people come up with! I am gundog biased so I find it hard to lookoutside this group and would prefer a group 3 dog. I am not looking at getting a puppy in the near future, it is a long term goal, but I am just researching breeds.. I may have moved out of home by the time I get the next dog so this may not even matter. :D Edited January 18, 2011 by RallyValley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 So you need a dog that tends to go with the flow.. especially wrt other dogs. First thing I'd say is whatever it is, get a bitch. Probably not a dog who's sheer physical size will overpower Toby either. And I'd be starting with a pup. Probably one of the more bombproof breeds would have to be any that's been developed to work in a group and top of that list for me would be Beagles. A Foxhound might be worth considering too. A Whippet bitch would probably work too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyValley Posted January 18, 2011 Author Share Posted January 18, 2011 I think everyone else is stumped PF A hound :D I can see how they would work though I am definately getting a bitch next time and definately getting a pup. Toby is 50cms at the wither and weights 20kilos. We suspect he is mostly Kelpie with a dash of bull breed, but he plays like a herding dog. ;) The resource guarding may not be an issue - Toby does not guard himself but has some fears about using resources (like toys waterbowls ect) when other dogs are around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ons Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 i think a female golden retriever would be ideal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 (edited) I think everyone else is stumped PF A hound I can see how they would work though I am definately getting a bitch next time and definately getting a pup. Toby is 50cms at the wither and weights 20kilos. We suspect he is mostly Kelpie with a dash of bull breed, but he plays like a herding dog. The resource guarding may not be an issue - Toby does not guard himself but has some fears about using resources (like toys waterbowls ect) when other dogs are around. Consider a Foxhound. My one and only Foxhound story. We had an exhibitor with a Foxhound next to us at Cooma the year before last. I think her name was Daisy. Anyhoo, we amused ourselves teaching Daisy to sit that weekend (not something show dogs necessarily learn to do on cue). Several months later, one of my fellow Daisy trainers met her again at a dog show. What did Daisy do when she saw my friend? She sat! Edited January 18, 2011 by poodlefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Italian Spinone,all the ones i have hung out with are always comatosed until doing a job but very respectful around other dogs & laidback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOE Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I would go for a HUNGARIAN VIZSLA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyValley Posted January 18, 2011 Author Share Posted January 18, 2011 I was going to be totally like suggest whatever but... I need a dog I can do agility and obedience with too.... what are the brains like on Foxhounds poodlefan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monah Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I'd love a foxhound and found all the ones I've met really lovely but, just as it's a gundog with an incredible temperament, I'm adding a spinone!! Our girl is magic with all dogs, esp. ones with 'issues'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I was going to be totally like suggest whatever but... I need a dog I can do agility and obedience with too.... what are the brains like on Foxhounds poodlefan? See my story above. I'd not be suggesting a Foxhound as an obedience and agility prospect though. How about a Flat Coated Retriever bitch? Reason I'd not recommend a Golden is most are a bit heavy to do agility easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monah Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Italian Spinone,all the ones i have hung out with are always comatosed until doing a job but very respectful around other dogs & laidback perfect description! I wont tell mine about the comatose part though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfsie Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 (edited) A newf......All my newf's raised from puppy and most the rescue's except one, have been the most laidback, cool, easy going dogs. They are polite with other dogs and love to meet and greet. But not in an awful rough manner. Definitely not nervous or stressed. even my rescue girl who was dog and people aggressive has reverted back to being a real newfie again. But I know newf's are definitely not for most people Just read the agility bit...I do some agility, but we will never be winners Edited January 18, 2011 by newfsie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monah Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I think everyone else is stumped PF A hound I can see how they would work though I am definately getting a bitch next time and definately getting a pup. Toby is 50cms at the wither and weights 20kilos. We suspect he is mostly Kelpie with a dash of bull breed, but he plays like a herding dog. The resource guarding may not be an issue - Toby does not guard himself but has some fears about using resources (like toys waterbowls ect) when other dogs are around. Consider a Foxhound. My one and only Foxhound story. We had an exhibitor with a Foxhound next to us at Cooma the year before last. I think her name was Daisy. Anyhoo, we amused ourselves teaching Daisy to sit that weekend (not something show dogs necessarily learn to do on cue). Several months later, one of my fellow Daisy trainers met her again at a dog show. What did Daisy do when she saw my friend? She sat! I'm sold! wire vizs are also great and more laid back than vizs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyValley Posted January 18, 2011 Author Share Posted January 18, 2011 With the retriever breeds, they are either "in your face", can be too resource guarding or not a dog that is typically happy go lucky. Plus I don't know that having non dual purpose breed wouldn't frustrate me Will do a bit of Spinone googling and remind myself not to judge a book by it's cover.... (sorry Monah and Spinone lovers) I actually don't mind Vizla's... I prefer fluffy dogs... but again books, cover I will look into it... as well as checking for dual purpose Goldens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyValley Posted January 18, 2011 Author Share Posted January 18, 2011 Just read the agility bit...I do some agility, but we will never be winners I don't want to be a winner.. just enjoy time out with friends. Would agility be too much for such a large breed? (Will google newfs also ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janba Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 There was a harrier at an agility club I used to belong to who did very well, if a bit independent but she was from a working pack. Smaller than a foxhound but very similar. We also had a foxhound when I was a kid who we taught a lot of tricks to and was a wonderful dog though unfortunately he did like to hunt. The hounds that are bred to work in packs do tend to have good dog skills and get on well with other dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 (edited) Just read the agility bit...I do some agility, but we will never be winners I don't want to be a winner.. just enjoy time out with friends. Would agility be too much for such a large breed? (Will google newfs also ) A Newf would have to jump 600 in ANKC agility. I'd not even try it. We had one start training at our club and she didn't fit through the tunnels or the tyre. Edited January 18, 2011 by poodlefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mim Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Someone with more knowledge (Ptolomy?) could really say but all the tollers I have met (two! ) have been lovely calm, easy going dogs and I would certainly describe them as 'happy go lucky'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Someone with more knowledge (Ptolomy?) could really say but all the tollers I have met (two! ) have been lovely calm, easy going dogs and I would certainly describe them as 'happy go lucky'. I have met a few that didn't fit that description! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Rules Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Someone with more knowledge (Ptolomy?) could really say but all the tollers I have met (two! ) have been lovely calm, easy going dogs and I would certainly describe them as 'happy go lucky'. Yes I was thinking a Toller also. You have to meet Paddy one day RV, he is a lean working line Golden, very much like his father Rebas. He is wasted on me as he would be fantastic at Agility etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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