Registered Breeders

[Rebanne]

Lure coursing is not a recognised ANKC activity so states that do run events are doing so outside the ANKC. :D

Here in Victoria we have a lure coursing area at KCC Park and it is advertised on the Dogs Victoria website.

but they are still only fun runs, no titles on offer. Competitive coursing, different sorts, all behind a lure, are huge overseas. Can get different titles from different orgs.

[Miranda]

I see that there's lure racing as well as coursing. As Rebanne says, no titles, but there are titles offered for earthdog. KCC Park also has an earthdog area, I know that Dogs Vic isn't perfect, but they do provide a lot of first class facilities for their members.

[Keshwar]

Neither Lure coursing or racing are recognised anywhere in Australia. Yes fun days are run but as has been said you cannot gain a title of any description.

Having said that Qld Lure Coursing Assoc do offer titles but they are not recognised outside of Queensland.

Why isn't it recognised? No idea, both coursing and racing are recognised by FCI, AKC and The KC.

I wonder if maybe it isn't warm and fuzzy enough - gives the wrong image of dogs - too close to hunting?????

[Dogsfevr]

We where told lure coursing in WA wasn't able to be done due to the race/gaming industry.

But i believe people forget that what one state can do doesn't mean every other one can & when people say you should only buy if the breeder can do A,B or C then you again will have many confused people because it isn't that simple.

Like a say a certain test for many breeds that would be considered a "tick" in the box for the MDBA breeders will mean a number of states breeders will not be able to conform unless they fly or drive east to have such tests done.

As i said i had to fly east to have 1 of those tests considered very important in my breed & i totally agree with BUT if i had a litter for starters i couldn't fly them all over in one trip,they couldn't be tested before leaving due to the age of flying or spent 2/3 days driving to have said tests done which could be in the middle of summer in 40 heat & i wouldn't drive pups of that age .

Great for those who live in the states that have every thing at there finger tips but as always the "others" who make up Australia get lumped into the one pile of it applies to all even if it is near impossible

[Steve]

We where told lure coursing in WA wasn't able to be done due to the race/gaming industry.

But i believe people forget that what one state can do doesn't mean every other one can & when people say you should only buy if the breeder can do A,B or C then you again will have many confused people because it isn't that simple.

Like a say a certain test for many breeds that would be considered a "tick" in the box for the MDBA breeders will mean a number of states breeders will not be able to conform unless they fly or drive east to have such tests done.

As i said i had to fly east to have 1 of those tests considered very important in my breed & i totally agree with BUT if i had a litter for starters i couldn't fly them all over in one trip,they couldn't be tested before leaving due to the age of flying or spent 2/3 days driving to have said tests done which could be in the middle of summer in 40 heat & i wouldn't drive pups of that age .

Great for those who live in the states that have every thing at there finger tips but as always the "others" who make up Australia get lumped into the one pile of it applies to all even if it is near impossible

Showdog Im really impressed that you go to these lengths to have your dogs tested. Do you mind me asking what these tests are?

[Dogsfevr]

Baer testing,for 3 years i got the run around by our university that did do the testing.

They told me the machine was broken,then another excuse & another.

It seems the they never trained anyone to use the equipment & it does seem to need repair.

They have never bothered to fix or train someone so a very needy & simple test goes out the door

We then had another vet who brought some equipment in but insisted the dogs are done under GA/sedative

I don't think so but that is there method so i now of very few people who have actually used the equipment & if it even exists.

There was at one stage lecturer from the US coming out to Oz .He does portable testing at shows & was bringing his gear out but he wasn't able to come in the end which was a shame as we had actually planned amongst many breeders to get dogs tested .

ideally one would want a litter tested prior to leaving .Luckily at this stage i don't breed this breed but i wanted my dog tested as did the breeder & both parties where stuffed

In the end the only option was east luckily i combined it with a show but irrespective my only choice is to fly east & to fly a dog of his weight costs $300 then airfare etc etc all for something that takes less than half an hr.I am in a position to afford the expense .

Now when i go east each year for shows i get what dogs i take tested for anything i can't get done here

In the perfect world we would all like to test for many things & the vets & orgs can bad mouth/criticize issues in some breeds BUT these same orgs don't provide the services to make breeding these animals easier yet expect us to be above & beyond.

The vet industry also need to address there expectations of us & start providing services Aussie wide.

Lets face it Heart clinics are very hard to come by in many states & its only due to breeds clubs often funding there own clinics & flying these people over that it gets done.Problem is these clinics often have limited spaces & it could be 6/12 months latter before the next one or again you fly east .

We have many good vets here are certainly spot on in listen to hearts BUT they can't give you that piece of paper to make the difference

Eye specialists we have 3 some other area,s have not one & again you are then left with no option to fly east or drive for what should be a simple service.

I feel for the people in the NT

[Steve]

Baer testing,for 3 years i got the run around by our university that did do the testing.

They told me the machine was broken,then another excuse & another.

It seems the they never trained anyone to use the equipment & it does seem to need repair.

They have never bothered to fix or train someone so a very needy & simple test goes out the door

We then had another vet who brought some equipment in but insisted the dogs are done under GA/sedative

I don't think so but that is there method so i now of very few people who have actually used the equipment & if it even exists.

There was at one stage lecturer from the US coming out to Oz .He does portable testing at shows & was bringing his gear out but he wasn't able to come in the end which was a shame as we had actually planned amongst many breeders to get dogs tested .

ideally one would want a litter tested prior to leaving .Luckily at this stage i don't breed this breed but i wanted my dog tested as did the breeder & both parties where stuffed

In the end the only option was east luckily i combined it with a show but irrespective my only choice is to fly east & to fly a dog of his weight costs $300 then airfare etc etc all for something that takes less than half an hr.I am in a position to afford the expense .

Now when i go east each year for shows i get what dogs i take tested for anything i can't get done here

In the perfect world we would all like to test for many things & the vets & orgs can bad mouth/criticize issues in some breeds BUT these same orgs don't provide the services to make breeding these animals easier yet expect us to be above & beyond.

The vet industry also need to address there expectations of us & start providing services Aussie wide.

Lets face it Heart clinics are very hard to come by in many states & its only due to breeds clubs often funding there own clinics & flying these people over that it gets done.Problem is these clinics often have limited spaces & it could be 6/12 months latter before the next one or again you fly east .

We have many good vets here are certainly spot on in listen to hearts BUT they can't give you that piece of paper to make the difference

Eye specialists we have 3 some other area,s have not one & again you are then left with no option to fly east or drive for what should be a simple service.

I feel for the people in the NT

Thank you.

Full marks to you for going above and beyond to ensure your dogs are tested.

Well done.

Edited January 14, 2011 by Steve