Omg The Stupidity!

[poodlefan]

Whiskedaway:

And there is no way she will be allowed to resource guard when we have the new puppy.

Provided you don't put her in situations where she might feel the need to that's fine. However she shouldn't be expected to allow the pup to eat from her bowl, take her toys or a bone etc.

[lovemesideways]

What state is the dog in if it is in SA I will help out for free.

No thankyou.

[idigadog]

What I meant by the BYB comment is that maybe she has learned this behaviour through a lack of interaction when younger? Having to defend food from pack mates? No idea, was just a though that it could be something along those lines.

From what I understand, resource guarding is technically a natural canine behaviour. Just one that is in no way desirable.

You know what, I doubt it has anything to do with the pup coming from a BYB unless the sire and dam were absolute shits of dogs! Going by what you have said and the fact that the owners have filmed this behaviour, sent it out to people and laughed about it, tells me it has alot to do with them.

Sure a dog will guard a bone or it's own bowl against other dogs, that's natural. A pup that shows that amount of aggression towards it's humans, well, I hate to think what it will be like when it matures.

Edited December 16, 2010 by idigadog

[SilverHaze]

Actually - it can be a trait in extremely dominant siberians - and they do exist, and they are not for beginners.

Remember siberians are pack animals, and with a pack animal you can have dogs at both extremes, submissive & dominant. It is not however a desired trait within the breed, and i would not breed from any animal exhibiting such behaviours.

My first siberian was like that, and i did a HUGE amount of work with her. She wasn't allowed to resource guard - doesn't mean she didn't try, she just didn't win.

Dogs like this need training or you are going to end up with a huge problem very quickly.

Obedience classes and specialised work with a trainer who understands dominant dogs will be essential for a pup such as this.

[idigadog]

My first siberian was like that, and i did a HUGE amount of work with her. She wasn't allowed to resource guard - doesn't mean she didn't try, she just didn't win.

And therein lies the difference, you didn't let the old cow get away with that sort of behaviour. Neither would I! But these people are encouraging this young pup and it will not only be to their detriment but to the dog's as well when she attacks someone

[whiskedaway]

Whiskedaway:

And there is no way she will be allowed to resource guard when we have the new puppy.

Provided you don't put her in situations where she might feel the need to that's fine. However she shouldn't be expected to allow the pup to eat from her bowl, take her toys or a bone etc.

Oh of course. Akira and the pup will be separated during feed times, and we'll teach the pup not to hassle Akira as well. They'll be separated when we're not able to supervise as well. I actually meant that Akira won't be allowed to resource guard things that she's not using and the puppy happens to pick up - mostly shared toys, we don't leave food out. She's had no problems with her friend, Ella, playing with her toys or going in her kennel, so I'm hoping it won't be an issue.

[SilverHaze]

My first siberian was like that, and i did a HUGE amount of work with her. She wasn't allowed to resource guard - doesn't mean she didn't try, she just didn't win.

And therein lies the difference, you didn't let the old cow get away with that sort of behaviour. Neither would I! But these people are encouraging this young pup and it will not only be to their detriment but to the dog's as well when she attacks someone

Oh and this pup WILL attack if this behaviour continues to escalate. Siberians are smart - once they figure out they have it over people, they lose their respect for them, and the boundaries disapear.

[idigadog]

Lovemesideways - I hope you show your friend all of these responses to your post. It's not too late for them to get the help they so obviously need. I'm afraid that this pup will end up being a statistic if they don't.

[lovemesideways]

My first siberian was like that, and i did a HUGE amount of work with her. She wasn't allowed to resource guard - doesn't mean she didn't try, she just didn't win.

And therein lies the difference, you didn't let the old cow get away with that sort of behaviour. Neither would I! But these people are encouraging this young pup and it will not only be to their detriment but to the dog's as well when she attacks someone

Oh and this pup WILL attack if this behaviour continues to escalate. Siberians are smart - once they figure out they have it over people, they lose their respect for them, and the boundaries disapear.

The pup is one step away from attack at the moment. I don't know how long this behaviour has been going on, but they've had to puppy since 8 weeks and its roughly 16 weeks now.

Lovemesideways - I hope you show your friend all of these responses to your post. It's not too late for them to get the help they so obviously need. I'm afraid that this pup will end up being a statistic if they don't.

I've been passing it along, plus I gave them Steve from K9Pros email, if anyone can help its him!

[idigadog]

I've been passing it along, plus I gave them Steve from K9Pros email, if anyone can help its him!

Let's hope it's not a lost cause and they actually listen to the advice. I know that if one of our puppies we had bred ended up displaying this behaviour, I would not only be mortified, but heartbroken as well.