What Method Do You Use & Find Most Effective?

[Labkisses]

Hi everyone,

I'm expecting my girl to go into labor in the next couple of days. Last time we had a litter there were 2 stillborn pups and we want to ensure that this time if there are any (fingers crossed there isnt!) that we do everything possible to help revive them.

I've gone through the forums and found some use brandy, Rescue Remedy (is that the stuff from the chemist?), Shock Method (hot bath & then cold), Swinging motions, Vigorous rubbing etc.

I was wondering what methods other breeders use to revive puppies or find most effective? And how long do you work on a pup to help revive it?

My vet also mentioned putting a tiny granule of coffee on the puppy's tongue..anyone heard or done this one?

Thanks in advance.

[cowanbree]

I have something from the vet that you put under their tongue, great stuff that isn't apparently made anymore. Otherwise I usually just rub them and have been known to do a little mouth to nose. My vet uses the warm and cold water with great success.

[SBT101]

I have heard of all of the above but as my girl is due at the end of next week, I too would be interested to know other breeders methods.

Edited December 3, 2010 by SBT101

[Sandra777]

Lots of rubbing and rolling. A firm shake while holding them head down (don't like to swing them) then more rubbing. Mouth to nose has been done too. A vet years ago revived one after a caesar by putting a needle in the fleshy bit immediately below the ''join'' in the nostrils. Apparently this is an accupuncture pressure point??

[persephone]

Just be VERY careful mouth>nose. A whisper , no larger than a fairy's fart , only - or you burst the lungs

head down, rough towel, vigorous rubbing. If you are not familiar with the swing method.. don't! There are too many things which can go wrong..

one tiny drop of RR on the tongue ....

I do a few minutes... much longer and there may be brain damage . I once worked on a pup for 15 minutes .. she survived, grew well,if somewhat lopsided ..and was forever happy and smiling, and totally clueless :D Dear Sarah ... she enjoyed every minute of her life .

[Ozstar]

I am the same as the others, swing, head down, lots of rubbing to get the fluid out of the lungs.

I have also found it helpfully to have the pup on a hot water bottle while rubbing and I also pinch the back of the neck if they are gasping.

My vet gave me crisis care, just a couple drops in the mouth.

Sometimes no matter what you do it is just not meant to be

Leanne

[Fordogs]

Dopram is what your vet uses for under the tongue for puppy stimulation I use a couple of drops of Brandy I think that it almost as good.

[fifi]

I use;

* Swinging the pup, from head height to through the knees head down, wrapped tightly in a small towel

* at work - dopram under the tongue and then the other things below...

* in the whelping box rescue remedy on the tongue - a few drops

* I rub very vigorously with a rough towel (avoiding the umbilical area)

* if still no response, a hot water bath, holding head out of water and massaging the pup like a wet sausage, then rub with hot towels from the dryer

* mouth to nose lightly & repeat the hot water bath, rubbing & swinging.

If the pups core temp is low, unless you heat them they will have real difficulty responding.

Edited December 4, 2010 by fifi

[Cockerlover]

break the sack as soon as pup is out ,let mum do cord ,but if slow ,take over & rip it ,pushing blood towards baby.

Also have warm towels to wrap bub in & rub vigerously till first breath is taken ,continue stimulating ,if all else fails mouth to nose & dip yr finger in brandy & rub around babies mouth ,ensure baby is kept warm while otheres r delivered

[becks]

vigourous rubbing with towel (dried on washin line so it is rougher then from a dryer)

swinging, making sure head is held

dopram V under the tongue

i will work on it until the next pup is being delivered, then that pup takes priority

[EISHUND]

I know this might sound weird, but I find pups that can't be revived no matter what you do have a different smell. It's not a bad smell, just different. I do have a sensitive sense of smell though I still give them a 'go' reviving them, but don't work as long on them anymore if they have 'that' smell. If they don't have 'that' smell I always manage to bring them around!

Edited December 5, 2010 by EISHUND

[hilaryo]

Suck the fluid and mucus from the airways with your mouth - when a bulb syringe just isn't going to cut it.

Sounds eeewwh but it works particularly on a pup that has been stuck for a period of time.

Edited December 5, 2010 by hilaryo

[Rottsup]

Suck the fluid and mucus from the airways with your mouth - when a bulb syringe just isn't going to cut it.

Sounds eeewwh but it works particularly on a pup that has been stuck for a period of time.

eeekkkk... I can do lots of yuck things BUT I don't think I could do this!

[Bisart Dobes]

We have never had one and I prefer to leave as much as possible to their mother, this is the way it should be - I believe in Suzanne Clothier's ' Selecting For Vigor' approach - I personally wouldn't revive a stillborn.

You can read the article on the link below if interested :

http://flyingdogpress.com/content/view/43/97/

[Paptacular!]

We have never had one and I prefer to leave as much as possible to their mother, this is the way it should be - I believe in Suzanne Clothier's ' Selecting For Vigor' approach - I personally wouldn't revive a stillborn.

You can read the article on the link below if interested :

http://flyingdogpress.com/content/view/43/97/

I tend to agree really.... there must be some reason the pup was born dead.

[SBT101]

Suck the fluid and mucus from the airways with your mouth - when a bulb syringe just isn't going to cut it.

Sounds eeewwh but it works particularly on a pup that has been stuck for a period of time.

I went in when my girl had her c-section 2 weeks ago and one of the nurses did this with a syringe. I started gagging straight away

[SwaY]

We have never had one and I prefer to leave as much as possible to their mother, this is the way it should be - I believe in Suzanne Clothier's ' Selecting For Vigor' approach - I personally wouldn't revive a stillborn.

You can read the article on the link below if interested :

http://flyingdogpress.com/content/view/43/97/

I tend to agree really.... there must be some reason the pup was born dead.

I think that statement is far to broad.

Pup could have got stuck, labour could have taken to long, contractions could have stopped, human whelper could have made an error etc

[Fordogs]

Have you ever have one of those puppies that just slide out, no movement, no struggle to be free of the sack when they arrive? So heart breaking because you know that there is nothing you can do to revive them, the really sad thing is that they always look perfectly formed and normal size and should be healthy. Yes I have tried but never got one of those back.

[Sandra777]

Have you ever have one of those puppies that just slide out, no movement, no struggle to be free of the sack when they arrive? So heart breaking because you know that there is nothing you can do to revive them, the really sad thing is that they always look perfectly formed and normal size and should be healthy. Yes I have tried but never got one of those back.

Yes, and no not a lot of effort is put in here. Take the sack off, rub the pup but nope, never go to heroic means with one of those ones.

[whippets]

Just be VERY careful mouth>nose. A whisper , no larger than a fairy's fart , only - or you burst the lungs :rolleyes:

head down, rough towel, vigorous rubbing. If you are not familiar with the swing method.. don't! There are too many things which can go wrong..

one tiny drop of RR on the tongue ....

I do a few minutes... much longer and there may be brain damage . I once worked on a pup for 15 minutes .. she survived, grew well,if somewhat lopsided ..and was forever happy and smiling, and totally clueless Dear Sarah ... she enjoyed every minute of her life .

yep for that. If an otherwise healthy puppy has had a long journey down the uterus or the mother is getting tired when delivering, this method has worked for me. Have gotten many puppies "going" again this way. I wouldn't work 15 mins on a pup though.