Best Promotion Of Purebred Dogs

[raz]

Nothing more stunning than a well bred purebred, in all its glory.

There's a lovely couple in my suburb with a gorgeous Irish Wolfhound. I always stop to talk to them about their beautiful dog.

eta I just saw your edit. Amazing, isnt it.

Edited November 27, 2010 by raz

[Jaxx'sBuddy]

i saw a jrt today, strutting alongside its owner, it looked so happy to be out with the wind in its hair it made me smile

[huski]

sorry sunshine, i'm not, because then i would be condemning myself.

i understand this was a forum set up to discuss pure breeds, i didnt when i signed up, and this was the first thread that made me feel uncomfortable about the situation. i thought this was a big dog loving community but apparently some have a higher status than others.

don't worry guys, i'll stay out of your precious pure breed threads, i'll stick to conversing with those old enough to understand that we are all created equally, i think they teach that in kindergarden these days?

I own a crossbreed and I love her just as much as I love my purebred dogs, so I think your hatred towards purebred dog owners is pretty misguided.

No-one here thinks they are better than people who own crossbreeds, plenty of us do. But on the whole we are passionate about purebreds and the breeds we own, and want to promote them as the great pets they are.

Have you ever been really passionate about something? I own two purebreds and I love both breeds to pieces. I love everything about them. I love to see them out and about, I love to see other owners who also feel as passionate about their chosen breed as I do. I love that when I get a dog of this breed, I can count on it to be of a certain type, size and temperament, that all those little things I love about the breed is not just isolated to the dog I have sitting in my lounge room right now. It devastates me to see my breed in rescues or pounds, which is another reason I love to accurately promote the breeds I own, so they can go to the best most suitable homes possible. I know breeders who have spent decades breeding my breed because they are even more passionate about their dogs than I am.

Which is why it turns my stomach to hear from people who take my breed because they don't like certain elements about it, mix it with something else, and then claim that by doing so, they've taken away the very things that I love about my breed. Doing this makes it even harder for these dogs to find suitable homes, because crossbreeds do not have the same predictability as purebreds, and there is never any guarantee that the traits that make my breed unsuitable for certain types of people to own, can be magically erased by crossbreeding them. It is not about the crossbreeds themselves. It is about the kind of people who breed them, the conditions they are often bred in, the misinformation spread about them, the fact that these dogs will never be able to contribute anything to my breed's gene pool, they will never do anything to preserve my breed as it is and has been for a very long time.

You've bought up a few times that many breeds were originally created by crossbreeding. That's true, but there is no comparison to the selective breeding that goes into creating and developing new breeds, and the crossbreeding we see today. If someone genuinely wants to create a new breed and does so in an ethical and responsible manner, props to them. It's not easy, though, and it's certainly not as simple as crossing Dog A with Dog B for no real purpose.

[huski]

I absolutely love it when I come across an obviously well bred purebred dog, as I'm finding it rarer and rarer to do so these days.

Well, I went to the markets the other day, and saw a Dogue, two Airedales, a Ridgie, a Newfoundland and on the drive home drove past not one but two Borzois!

Sheridan, I met a Wheaten at agility club the other night. The owner was so chuffed I knew what it was What a great dog! I showed them to my mum and they are right up her alley. We both want to own one, one day now

[Sheridan]

I took Grumpy and Mini out today on their (individual) walks. We met no one on Grumpy's walk, which I'm pleased to say at a month and a bit away from 15-years-old was the same distance as Mini's. Princess Mini, however ... We met a dog and she was not pleased. Not a good promotion of purebreds was my kerry blue terrier this morning.

Sheridan, I met a Wheaten at agility club the other night. The owner was so chuffed I knew what it was What a great dog! I showed them to my mum and they are right up her alley. We both want to own one, one day now

Wheatens and kerries are mountain goats in disguise!

Edited November 27, 2010 by Sheridan

[sparkycat]

The logic or rather lack of it in this thread is

I have a well bred pedigree fine example of her breed Finnish Lapphund and yet not one person has ever said to me "thats an obviously well bred purebred dog" . When I walk her together with my shock horror mixed breed dog I get compliments on both of them.

Only someone well acquainted with ALL dog breeds could possibly identify every purebred dog.

Oh and I haven't read anything in the forum rules that relates to spelling and grammar......................

[Jaxx'sBuddy]

The logic or rather lack of it in this thread is

I have a well bred pedigree fine example of her breed Finnish Lapphund and yet not one person has ever said to me "thats an obviously well bred purebred dog" . When I walk her together with my shock horror mixed breed dog I get compliments on both of them.

Only someone well acquainted with ALL dog breeds could possibly identify every purebred dog.

Oh and I haven't read anything in the forum rules that relates to spelling and grammar......................

you've missed the point as well sc

this thread is about promoting our pure bred dogs, surely you get that we need to do this?

[huski]

Wheatens and kerries are mountain goats in disguise!

They are awesome!

Oh I met a KBT at the markets the other day too

[Florise]

I have a well bred pedigree fine example of her breed Finnish Lapphund and yet not one person has ever said to me "thats an obviously well bred purebred dog" . .

Probably because that's not a breed that the average person would recognise... but that is an issue with even some of our common breeds these days. Many of them are so mixed or poorly bred so people no longer have any idea what they are supposed to look like. I guess that's why a stunner will stand out and get comments.

Sparkycat, why not teach people about your breed and promote them? I would be interested to know how many people on the street would be able to name your breed if you asked them.

[Gayle.]

In another thread a while back, where I introduced my purebred Australian Shepherd puppy to the DOL community, I compared a well-bred pedigree dog as art to a crossbred mutt as scribble. And I stand by that.

My dogs were bred with much research, thought, time and effort going into their mating, after both parents were screened to be clear of hereditary diseases. The matings were planned to bring out the best in the breed.....to improve upon their parents, to bring a better puppy into the world.

Sometimes the "better" might just be a slightly squarer muzzle, or a slightly higher ear set, or maybe a shade darker eye colour. Probably invisible to the undiscerning eye. I know what my puppy is going to grow up to look like, he's going to be gorgeous. He's not going to have any hereditary eye diseases, he's unlikely to have joint problems and he's destined for a long, healthy life because he had the best and most thoughtful start possible. He's a work of animal-husbandry "art".

Compare that to a backyard breeder or a puppy farmer who indiscriminately whacks to dogs together in a tie, give the resulting progeny a ridiculous name and advertises them in the local newspaper and charges a hideous amount for what amounts to nothing more than a mongrel. Dogs that used to be given away free to a good home as they were considered worthless.....third rate. No thought, no planning, no health screening, no eye to the future.

Are my dogs better than mongrels? Yep, they sure are and I am very proud that they're better than a crossbred dogs, and I will shout it from the rooftops. Abnd I will not have it that the amount of time and effort put into the matings by the breeders I bought my dogs from is LESS valuable than the lack of effort made by a puppy farmer.

Edited November 27, 2010 by GayleK

[Nevafollo]

I have 4 x pure dogs and 1 x mutt... Do I think my dogs are better than anyone elses (including my mutt), ofcourse I do... because they are MY dogs!

Do I think pure breeds are better than cross breeds? To a point yes I do. Pure dogs are what I like and what I will always own so ofcourse I think they are better especially my choosen breeds. I work with dogs, do I treat cross breeds any different to pure breeds, no ofcourse not, do I treat their owners any different no ofcourse not!

I think the idea of this thread is spot on. We need to be out their promoting and bragging about our breeds!!! I love taking my dogs places where I know alot of people will be because I love that people talk to me about them. I also love when average jo comes to dogs shows to look at breeds and asks about my dogs, Im more than happy to promote them in anyway I can!

[Jaxx'sBuddy]

i think we should educate the public.

i take jaxx for a walk to the cafe and we sit outside and have a coffee.

she likes to sit on my lap and watch the world go by (norty dog) and i let her (norty owner) but she sure does attract attention.

what has surprised me is the amount of people who ask me where i got my miniature boxer so that lets me start telling them about bostons

people like the look of her and the size and that's when i can say that is the good thinking about buying a pure bred dog, you know what you are getting in regards to size, colour and temperament which can be really important sometimes when choosing a dog.

[CBL]

i think we should educate the public.

i take jaxx for a walk to the cafe and we sit outside and have a coffee.

she likes to sit on my lap and watch the world go by (norty dog) and i let her (norty owner) but she sure does attract attention.

what has surprised me is the amount of people who ask me where i got my miniature boxer so that lets me start telling them about bostons

people like the look of her and the size and that's when i can say that is the good thinking about buying a pure bred dog, you know what you are getting in regards to size, colour and temperament which can be really important sometimes when choosing a dog.

A girl came into our vets when we were in a couple of weeks ago with a teeny tiny boston pup in her hand. He/she was just gorgeous and I was doing my best not to gush all over it (or snatch it and run out the door )

[Nevafollo]

In another thread a while back, where I introduced my purebred Australian Shepherd puppy to the DOL community, I compared a well-bred pedigree dog as art to a crossbred mutt as scribble. And I stand by that.

My dogs were bred with much research, thought, time and effort going into their mating, after both parents were screened to be clear of hereditary diseases. The matings were planned to bring out the best in the breed.....to improve upon their parents, to bring a better puppy into the world.

Sometimes the "better" might just be a slightly squarer muzzle, or a slightly higher ear set, or maybe a shade darker eye colour. Probably invisible to the undiscerning eye. I know what my puppy is going to grow up to look like, he's going to be gorgeous. He's not going to have any hereditary eye diseases, he's unlikely to have joint problems and he's destined for a long, healthy life because he had the best and most thoughtful start possible. He's a work of animal-husbandry "art".

Compare that to a backyard breeder or a puppy farmer who indiscriminately whacks to dogs together in a tie, give the resulting progeny a ridiculous name and advertises them in the local newspaper and charges a hideous amount for what amounts to nothing more than a mongrel. Dogs that used to be given away free to a good home as they were considered worthless.....third rate. No thought, no planning, no health screening, no eye to the future.

Are my dogs better than mongrels? Yep, they sure are and I am very proud that they're better than a crossbred dogs, and I will shout it from the rooftops. Abnd I will not have it that the amount of time and effort put into the matings by the breeders I bought my dogs from is LESS valuable than the lack of effort made by a puppy farmer.

TOTALLY agree with what gayles saying especially the bolded.

I know the time and effort that my breeders have put into each and everyone of my pure dogs...as for my mutt im pretty sure his creater (wont use the term breeder) thought like this..."i haz female, I haz male...ok sexy time...yay puppies"!!!

[Alyosha]

Well, I went to the markets the other day, and saw a Dogue, two Airedales, a Ridgie, a Newfoundland and on the drive home drove past not one but two Borzois!

That's great to hear!

I love getting out and about with my lot. I love that people stop us and want to talk about them. I love that cars slow down and people take photos of them. I have all the time in the world to talk about my beloved breed. Even if any of those people never wanted to own a Borzoi, they have broadened their knowledge of dogs just a little bit.

When they think of getting their own dogs they might jusr realise there could be a great many more pure breeds out there than they imagined. In that sense they have a greater chance of finding a dog that really suits them, which could always mean one less mismatched dog in a pound.

[mita]

it is great that there are breeders out there who actually care about the animals and do a lot of work to ensure their pups are of good health backgrounds. i still don't understand how you could pick that two dogs walking on the street were from a breeder such as this, unless i've misunderstood and you knew the dogs and their history prior to the walk.

it's okay to be proud of your dogs heritage but it just seems to me like there's a lot of negativity on this board toward crossbreeds and backyard bred pure breds. a dog is a companion, a best friend, a family member, not an object to be used to compete with others over who's is of higher status.

Kyliestar, I don't want to be rude to you, because you're only expressing your opinion.

But there's lack of logic in what you've written (in bold).

You say you can't understand how 'you' (I guess you mean 'some person') could pick that 2 dogs walking on the street were from a breeder like the tibbie one I described. Of course not, that would require that 'you' would be a mind-reader!

I've said that people admire my tibbie girls because they look beautiful (& they also have outstanding temperaments). The people usually haven't a clue as to their breed (still uncommon in Australia) & would have no way of knowing if they came from the man in the moon.

I went on to say that sighting my girls leads people to talk to me about them. Then I said I give them information....& even carry some because it happens so often.

I also went on to say that our ex-dumped little mixed-breed dog, Gran & pound-puss, Sarah, have equal status in our family as members to be loved. Decent breeders of purebreds look for pet homes where the animals are loved for themselves alone.

In fact, the breeder who first gave us a tibbie deliberately didn't tell us about the prizes she'd won... nor the fact that she was the first tibetan spaniel to win Best Puppy in entire show in a major dog show She told us that after we'd adopted her. When asked why, she said she knew we just loved her for herself. She wasn't interested in adopting her dogs to people who were totally into status.

And the two other breeders who've given us tibbies, never said a word about prizes when asking us to take them as pets. They told us all about their personalities (& were proven to be spot on) & any stories about their lives so far & anything we needed to watch for.

The other point about purebreds, is that the registering of pedigrees makes it easy & accessible to track their relatives....if a health problem comes up.

When my tib started to have bowel upsets recently, one of the key factors in the vets' diagnosing that it wasn't a bowel disease (usually genetic link) was fact that the totally honest breeder knew of no other dog in the depth or breadth of her pedigree that had such a condition.

Turned out to be a processed food intolerance brought on by eating a strangely textured treat. So easily fixed with a natural food diet.

Edited November 27, 2010 by mita

[Are You Serious Jo]

SCWT's are on my wish list to own one day. I fell in love with them when I was a groomer. Same for scotties.

[labsrule]

Even though I have probably the most widely recognised breed worldwide , hardly a days goes by when I am walking my lab youngster (14mths old) or on an outing with him at a local dog park or the river or a beach, I receive numerous compliments on what a stunning or beautiful boy he is and many of these people that compliment him ask me where I got him from. I took him to river the other day and struck up conversations with 3 different people, 2 of these with labradors of their own and one with a crossbreed and all 3 asked me where I got him from and I am more than happy to promote his awesome breeders and pure breeders in general .

I have also found that with this boy is that I am getting a lot of owners of small dogs approaching me and asking me if their small dog can greet my boy or play with boy if we are in a fenced in area and they all compliment my boy on his beautiful temperament and how wonderful he is with their small dogs as he doesnt jump on them, or play rough with them, as all he loves to do is play chaseys with other likeminded dogs, irrespective of their size. On his walk yesterday, I was approached by a lady who had the smallest dog I have ever seen and she asked if her dog could greet mine as she is trying to socialise her more. This dog was so tiny, I don't think my boy quite knew what to make of it , but he was extremely good with this lovely little one and the lady was extremely happy with how he was with her tiny dog. Queuing up behind the lady and her tiny dog was a father with twin girl youngsters who wanted to come and pat my dog which I allowed and they were so happy. Makes you feel good that your dog makes other people happy

When he was younger and I was doing lots of training with him on our walks, I got asked a few times if he was a guide dog in training

I talk to lots of other dog owners during my walks and outings with my boys as I am out every day with them and I will always give compliments on lovely dogs whether they be a purebreed or crossbreed and if they are a purebreed, we sometimes get into discussions on our breed and breeders.

[Rebanne]

My dogs get lots of looks when we are out and about, people are always surprised how soft their coats are, even people who show other breeds had no idea a greyhounds coat could be so soft. When my friend and I used to have our coffee mornings, they always turned into huge meet and greet with many people wanting to know more. My greys lived in town with 3 cats, hers on a farm with cattle. We showed that greyhounds can and are adaptable. We handed out many, many cards for GAP. Of course most people knew they were greyhounds but had no idea they could be good pets. I am proud to say that my friend and I have educated a lot of people to the wonderfulness of greyhounds

[asal]

I think you'll find that dog people will boast about their dogs whether they're purebreds or not. Do you not boast about yours?

there's a difference between saying, "dont you think my dog is cute." and "my dog is cuter than yours because i bought him from a top breeder and you bought a dirty mix breed from the newspaper."

I don't think I've read that in this thread.

Am I a purebred dog snob? You betcha, I am. I have purebred dogs because I like a particular type of dog. I like wheaten and kerry blue terriers. Do I think they're the best dogs on the planet? You betcha, I do. Am I going to say so? You betcha, I am. I didn't buy them but their breeders are indeed tops. Will I say so at every opportunity? You betcha, I will.

Why should you condemn me for having purebreds and not a mixed breed? Yes, it works both ways and you're doing it right now.

sorry sunshine, i'm not, because then i would be condemning myself.

i understand this was a forum set up to discuss pure breeds, i didnt when i signed up, and this was the first thread that made me feel uncomfortable about the situation. i thought this was a big dog loving community but apparently some have a higher status than others.

don't worry guys, i'll stay out of your precious pure breed threads, i'll stick to conversing with those old enough to understand that we are all created equally, i think they teach that in kindergarden these days?

are u serious????

seriously.

have you really read all the threads in the past week?

if you own a dog your guilty UNTIL proven innocent.

you dont have to vaccinate your child,,,, because that would impinge on your human rights.

BUT you have to have PROOFF YOU OVERVACCINATE YOUR DOG OR you have now broken a LAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YET THERE IS NO SUCH LAW FOR FORCE YOU TO VACCINATE YOUR CHILD??

THAT to me anyway does not smack of "we are all created equally,"

lookes from where im standing you arent if you have a dog or dogs

do our lawmakers really care more about overwelfare of cannis famiaris (even to the point of vaccinating them to their detriment even death) than a child whose parents wont even consider vaccination for polio, there it is called freedom of choice??

if you can freely choose to risk your child to all manner of potentially deadly in the belief and sometimes well grounded fear the vaccination could kill or maim... and i know it happens... my own nephew cardiac arrested after his first vaccinations.

he is only alive today becuse his mum worked there and stayed to talk to friends so when he died the crash cart was beside the door.

or.... he would have been just another unfortunate stastic...

Edited November 27, 2010 by asal