Sasha (Alexander) Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 I stumbled upon this site. http://www.sibfox.com/ They sell tame foxes from Russia. I am not sure if you can get them to import to Australia, but at a hefty 6K+ price tag i would only even consider it if i was rich. but the babies look very cute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 As foxes are a pest species in Australia, you are not allowed to keep them as pets and you would certainly not be able to import them. There was a thread a little while ago where someone found some baby foxes and was deciding what to do with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkabull Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 The poor things. I wonder how long it will be until Paris has one under her arm and then all the stupid wannabees will follow suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKDD Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Species permitted for import to Australia are listed here. http://www.environment.gov.au/biodiversity...import-list.pdf The fox isnt on the list, so import is not permitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Scam?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PL_ Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 (edited) That whole breeding program was fascinating. I was worried when it ended the now tamed/domesticated foxes produced (with coats that were apparently useless for fur?) would just be disposed of. eta: not that I'm comfortable with them being farmed as pets either. Edited November 24, 2010 by Powerlegs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 (edited) As foxes are frequently linked to spreading rabies in Europe, definitely not something you would want to import. Not that you could anyway. Edited November 24, 2010 by felix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staranais Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 I have read something about these foxes (if they're the same ones) they have been deliberately selectively bred for generations to be brave & friendly (i.e., they've been domesticated, not just tamed), so they would probably be lovely pets. But like people say, you couldn't import them into Aussie or NZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christina Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Poor bugger would get shot where I live if anybody saw it. Stupid idea really. I like foxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asal Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 I remember that from when i was a kid, didnt realise they were still breeding them. fascinating isnt it. discovering the link of particolour coats to friendlyness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melzawelza Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 That whole program was so so so fascinating!!! I would absolutely LOVE one as they are actually domesticTed and anecdotally like a cross between a cat and dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Very cute pups (kits), but does anyone get the sense that they are being mass bred for the domestic market like some people are doing with regular dogs? The sheds and boxes in the puppy photos are kinda reminiscent of that sort of thing IMHO... T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~*Shell*~ Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 TEMPERAMENTa) The Seller recommends that the Buyer attend obedience classes for dogs with the fox and provide proper socialization opportunities for the fox. That's interesting. Don't know what obedience clubs would think of that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melzawelza Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Yeah I forgot to add if they were legal for export to Aus there would be a lot more I'd want to know about the conditions they were raised in before purchasing one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormie Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Very cute pups (kits), but does anyone get the sense that they are being mass bred for the domestic market like some people are doing with regular dogs? The sheds and boxes in the puppy photos are kinda reminiscent of that sort of thing IMHO...T. Have to say, that was my first thought too. I guess they have to sort of mimic a den though? But the pic of one in a cage with a wire floor looked a bit suss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saradale Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Since when does any ethical breeder of anything advertise as "Official Distributors" of their chosen breed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janba Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 I remember learning about these foxes when I was studying genetics I don't want to admit how many years ago from the point of view of selective breeding. At that stage they were still being bred for fur not the pet market. It does give an insight into the domestication process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espinay2 Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 In the US there are foxes bred for the 'pet market'. I worked with a few when I was over there working with some captive wolves. The ones I worked with were rescues. Reasonably tame, would sit on your shoulder etc. Sweet animals (loved dried cranberries which we used as training treats). I was very fond of a white Red Fox (coat was totally white, but he was a red fox by species - like the ones that are feral in Australia) named Basil. People get them because they are cute and because it is rather cool to say they own a fox. BUT and it is a big but, what most people fail to realise is that fox dens/enclosures/anywhere they live STINK. And I mean REALLY stink. There is no getting away from it and it is extremely overpowering. It is an incredibly strong musky urine smell. Foxes mark their den sites this way. No way to stop it. You own a fox, you own the incredibly overpowering knock you out and half the neighbourhood too stink. And that is the reason most foxes sold for pets end up as rescue cases. Not really good pet prospects at all...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janba Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 I hadn't really thought about the smell - its a bit like owning a billy goat. I do find foxes fascinating animals and great adapters and survivers just not in this country. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espinay2 Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 its a bit like owning a billy goat. Take a billy goat smell and times it by about a thousand a billy goat is hardly registerable by comparison. Even if you are 'used' to the fox smell, every day walking up to and into the enclosure is a challenge and makes your head spin and your lungs object (note I have a strong stomach and usually am not put off by smells no matter how strong or foul - this was a challenge for me!) And it is not because the enclosure is not kept clean - the smell is there no matter how clean you keep it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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