Staff'n'Toller Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 (edited) We use DAP at my clinic in the hospital ward, sometimes it works, sometimes the dogs are just too worried about being in the hospital I guess. I also use the spray if I feel the situation warrants it. I tried it when I introduced my last new puppy into the house but I couldn't tell whether it had any effect. Similarly I have tried it in the waiting room when taking puppy classes but again, it seems hard to assess. Recently due to one dog's injury, my three have had restricted access to outdoors, the last 2 days something has majorly spooked my injured boy (only in the mornings) and whilst going through my process of deduction I brought home a DAP diffuser tonight - figured it can't hurt. Tonight I realised my Stafford girl who would usually start making noise to be 'taken upstairs to bed' is still quiet as a mouse, fast asleep....interesting. Care to discuss your experiences with DAP? Edited November 23, 2010 by Staff'n'Toller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agility Dogs Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 I'd be interested in hearing about people's experiences. I'm using rescue remedy and have ordered some DAP spray to use for my boy at agility comps where there are a lot of dogs close in together. He stresses at the start line and the RR seems to be helping so I figure the DAP can't hurt. Will share after the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenGirl85 Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Where is the best place to buy DAP spray from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted November 25, 2010 Author Share Posted November 25, 2010 Agility Dogs I would be interested to hear how it goes for you. The rep tells me the actual DAP collars will be in the country by Jan/Feb next year, they are just waiting on AVMPA approval (again!). The collar will last 30 days. The spray lasts about 2 hours then you need to re-apply to a bandana or towel. GG85 Vet Clinics here in Au, although I do know people who bring it in from the UK at a cheaper price, however I guess at any time customs can decide they are confiscating the product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 I really want to try the collars when they come to Aus, I have the spray, and haven't really noticed much of a difference, but I spray it in their crates before we go to a trial. I don't think the diffuser would be effective because I have a large house and the dogs are not always in the same spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agility Dogs Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Agility Dogs I would be interested to hear how it goes for you. The rep tells me the actual DAP collars will be in the country by Jan/Feb next year, they are just waiting on AVMPA approval (again!). The collar will last 30 days. The spray lasts about 2 hours then you need to re-apply to a bandana or towel. GG85 Vet Clinics here in Au, although I do know people who bring it in from the UK at a cheaper price, however I guess at any time customs can decide they are confiscating the product. Fingers crossed!! It will be a really good test tomorrow night (as long as it arrives as promised). It is a ground that he has always struggled on so it should be interesting. It's so hard to gauge what is actually working and what isn't - you can't control all the variables, but I figure that even if it only makes me feel better then it has to rub off on the boy! Will update next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenGirl85 Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Has anyone ever used this spray before? Ive got it for Tess and to be honest im not sure if it works sometimes and or if its actually just fancy water of some sort and its all a big co-incidence that it seems to work on occasion...like if its a psychological thing on my part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MolassesLass Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 We use DAP at my clinic in the hospital ward, Sorry to interrupt but does DAP have a smell that humans could detect? Do you tell the owner if you've used it on their dog while on the ward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted November 25, 2010 Author Share Posted November 25, 2010 (edited) It has no odour detectable to humans, it's not used on the dogs body in any way. Edited November 25, 2010 by Staff'n'Toller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MolassesLass Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Ta. I have one dog who always comes home from a stay at the vets smelling perfumey and the others don't. The topic made me wonder if she was getting DAP'ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted November 25, 2010 Author Share Posted November 25, 2010 Yeah she is probably getting deodorised! You can always specify no smelly stuff when you drop her off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Has anyone ever used this spray before? Ive got it for Tess and to be honest im not sure if it works sometimes and or if its actually just fancy water of some sort and its all a big co-incidence that it seems to work on occasion...like if its a psychological thing on my part I have it in my foster dog cupboard but haven't used it yet, I'll let you know this weekend. I also have the DAP stray to test out too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staranais Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 I've only tried Feliway, the cat version. Didn't make any perceptible difference to my cat's stress levels. Our school clinic uses dap in the reception area, some of the nurses like it & think it makes a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Rottweiler Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 It hasnt worked on the dogs I have worked on. Out of 10 dogs, 1 had a change in the specific behaviour, however I recommended a diet change in that dog as well which could have attributed more to the behaviour change in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agility Dogs Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 A friend of mine works in a pound/shelter situation where they have been using DAP. She is of the opinion that it doesn't result in changed behaviour as a lessening in the intensity of certain behaviours - subtle, but it is there. Not sure if that makes sense, but it is her observation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schnauzer Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 I have used the plug in DAP succesfully when my rescue girl was initially very anxious and it also worked fantastic for my older storm phobic boy - when it was turned on he would sleep during a storm, instead of salivating, pacing and shaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agility Dogs Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 WOO HOO. DAP spray just arrived at work. Will be able to try it tonight at our trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve K9Pro Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 K9: I have had the opportunity to complete quite a lot of testing with DAP. Considerations: DAP is helpful to a dog that has had a normal 0 - 8 weeks life schedule and environment, if there were trauma or stress in this period, I have found DAP either not helpful or aversive / unsettling. The best most consistent results we have had are with the Diffusers, plugged in the home and left running constantly, the effects after a 3 week intro period have been quite good. Tried the collars and the spray, with inconsistent results at best. There were a few dogs that showed really solid improvements but the majority seemed unaffected so we decided only to stock the Diffuser and not the spray or collar. This may change though if we find better results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenGirl85 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 Steve have you tried other calming sprays like the one I posted above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 I did have the DAP defuser plugged in for a foster but the unit heated up so much that it concerned me and I unplugged it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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