Cometbreeze Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Took our Maggie to a new vet today to mainly just to get her microchipped and swabs for her HC and L2 and to sus out this vet that is 2nd nearest to me as the first one i lost confidence in last year for numerous reasons and other reports. Anyway all has been going well and while on the table i noticed a small discharge, bout the size of a 20 cent piece, milky colour. I started freaking and looked at the vet and she was unsure and said that she will call the vets i used to ultrasoundher 45 minutes away as she didnt know much about breeding :D , i said thats fine ill call myself. So i called the breeder of the stud dog as well who calmed me down and said to call them. so i called them and she said that it can be normal to have a small discharge but keep an eye out for it as if it goes pink or green thats not good but she still could be reabsorbing her puppies flustered and upset i come home So was wondering has anyone else experienced this and has any one got any advice as the more reading and research i do the more i stress about whats right and wrong. I took her to the beach this morning and she had a run cause i had backed off the exserise as she is a freak when it comes to balz and beach and will run till she vomits, but since we found out she is expecting we have just been walking, but from reading thought she should continue asnormal and she will dicide when shes had enough. but talking to my stud/ breeder friend she said i should lock her up in yard till pups are 8 weeks???? I like the natural side of things and want the best for my girl and dont want to miss out on life. So any thoughts?? i need a beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwaY Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Took our Maggie to a new vet today to mainly just to get her microchipped and swabs for her HC and L2 and to sus out this vet that is 2nd nearest to me as the first one i lost confidence in last year for numerous reasons and other reports. And you didn't think to do any of that before you mated her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cometbreeze Posted November 23, 2010 Author Share Posted November 23, 2010 Took our Maggie to a new vet today to mainly just to get her microchipped and swabs for her HC and L2 and to sus out this vet that is 2nd nearest to me as the first one i lost confidence in last year for numerous reasons and other reports. And you didn't think to do any of that before you mated her? No actuly we didnt, but realising we have some puppies on the way we thought about our new puppie owners and what is expected, yes could have done it before but it is all new to us and a very big learning curve but we will get there. My priority hopefully is to learn from all the wealth of knowledge around me and on here so i can be preped and able to combat ant hicups along the way. which brings me back to Maggies discharge at day 39 ? Has anyone had this happen or have any calming words or more critisizm even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 any discharge especially for first timers should be swabbed and viewed for puss cells. If something crops up under the microscope, then a sample should be sent off the pathology, to determine exaclty what you are dealing with. Things like strep g, can manifest at any stage and if present in the birth canal during whelping, it will cause puppies to fade and die. Bitches can have a jelly like discharge from time to time when in whelp. I've seen others have a thinner , whiter looking discharge that has turned out to be normal and one that was not really coloured at all, that one ended up being the strep G infection. Microchipping and routine vet care, should be taken care of well before matings are planned. The vets is the last place I'd want to take an apparently healthy bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cometbreeze Posted November 24, 2010 Author Share Posted November 24, 2010 (edited) any discharge especially for first timers should be swabbed and viewed for puss cells. If something crops up under the microscope, then a sample should be sent off the pathology, to determine exaclty what you are dealing with.Things like strep g, can manifest at any stage and if present in the birth canal during whelping, it will cause puppies to fade and die. Bitches can have a jelly like discharge from time to time when in whelp. I've seen others have a thinner , whiter looking discharge that has turned out to be normal and one that was not really coloured at all, that one ended up being the strep G infection. Microchipping and routine vet care, should be taken care of well before matings are planned. The vets is the last place I'd want to take an apparently healthy bitch. Thanx ReadySetGo, watching her closely and will get her swabbed. we should of microchipped her ages ago i know but we didnt think of clearance for disaese for new puppie owners. so hope all is normal and the babies are well. do you Xray before welping to see what you have got, ie Large puppies or numbers? she also has put on a kilo since we did an ultrasound one week ago Edited November 24, 2010 by Cometbreeze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lappiemum Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 (edited) Its quite normal for a bitch to have clear to milky white discharge from her vulva through her pregnancy. Coloured discharge, however, should be investigated immediately. It is best to keep your bitch away from high dog areas, or places where unknown dogs frequent, to try to minimise the risks of disease during the pregnancy. At different stages the foetuses will have varying protection from their environment and be either less or more susceptable to external factors - but having said that, lots of things can happen that you could not predict, so its best to always play it safe. What support is your breeder giving you? These are questions that a good mentor should be able to give you guidence on. Edited November 24, 2010 by lappiemum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lappiemum Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Xraying is very useful to give you an relatively good idea of numbers. I've just had my bitch xrayed, she is due on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cometbreeze Posted November 24, 2010 Author Share Posted November 24, 2010 (edited) Xraying is very useful to give you an relatively good idea of numbers. I've just had my bitch xrayed, she is due on Sunday. Thanx lappiemum, My breeders have been realy good and supportive and obviously i have their numbers on speed dial, And that is realy good news that the discharge can be normal, as far as keeping her away from other frequented dog areas, we will be doing that stringently for now on, goint to be hard but as she loves her exersise and so do i but before pregnancy she was very fit in preperation for pregnancy, so will keep her at home. We are looking after a family members dog at the moment for the next couple of weeks he is a 9 year old de-sexed male, she does love the company hence why we want to breed, mainly as we would like a second Stafford in the family for Maggie. Do you see him being here as a problem at all? Also do think low inpact swimming in our saltwater pool is a good idea or bad as my breeder suggests no excersize at all, which i can understand as she does sometime drink the pool water which we tell her off for...haha Edited November 24, 2010 by Cometbreeze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 as far as keeping her away from other frequented dog areas, we will be doing that stringently for now on, goint to be hard but as she loves her exersise and so do i but before pregnancy she was very fit in preperation for pregnancy, so will keep her at home. Why do you need to keep her at home???????? Exercise her, she needs to be fit to have an easy labour, but don't take her to places dogs frequent - dog parks and beaches, vet clinics and the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lappiemum Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 (edited) as far as keeping her away from other frequented dog areas, we will be doing that stringently for now on, goint to be hard but as she loves her exersise and so do i but before pregnancy she was very fit in preperation for pregnancy, so will keep her at home. Why do you need to keep her at home???????? Exercise her, she needs to be fit to have an easy labour, but don't take her to places dogs frequent - dog parks and beaches, vet clinics and the like. She will need to maintain her fitness for the birth - there are a lot of physical stresses that a bitch will go through as part of pregnancy and delivery, and fitness levels are important in how well these are handled. I wouldn't do any rigourous exercise - just regular and gentle, and keep an eye on her - if it appears that she is uncomfortable then leave it at that. As she gets bigger you will see her probably tone down her activity anyway. Edited November 24, 2010 by lappiemum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cometbreeze Posted November 24, 2010 Author Share Posted November 24, 2010 (edited) as far as keeping her away from other frequented dog areas, we will be doing that stringently for now on, goint to be hard but as she loves her exersise and so do i but before pregnancy she was very fit in preperation for pregnancy, so will keep her at home. Why do you need to keep her at home???????? Exercise her, she needs to be fit to have an easy labour, but don't take her to places dogs frequent - dog parks and beaches, vet clinics and the like. I agree Ssandra777 definatly will find a comprimize, sometimes its hard to find the right way with all the advice given but i spose we just have to do what feels right, without exposing her to dirty dog areas and the like, and i agree she will tell us when shes had enough Edited November 24, 2010 by Cometbreeze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 as far as keeping her away from other frequented dog areas, we will be doing that stringently for now on, goint to be hard but as she loves her exersise and so do i but before pregnancy she was very fit in preperation for pregnancy, so will keep her at home. Why do you need to keep her at home???????? Exercise her, she needs to be fit to have an easy labour, but don't take her to places dogs frequent - dog parks and beaches, vet clinics and the like. She will need to maintain her fitness for the birth - there are a lot of physical stresses that a bitch will go through as part of pregnancy and delivery, and fitness levels are important in how well these are handled. I wouldn't do any rigourous exercise - just regular and gentle, and keep an eye on her - if it appears that she is uncomfortable then leave it at that. As she gets bigger you will see her probably tone down her activity anyway. my staffords go as flat out for as long as they want, there's no point in trying to slow them down, you just let them do as they please and if you're lucky they might take it easy in the last week. There's nothing wrong with rigourous exercise, the only concern would be them doing it in the heat of the day, other than that, they can run, swim and play as much as they like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwaY Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Microchipping and routine vet care, should be taken care of well before matings are planned. The vets is the last place I'd want to take an apparently healthy bitch. we should of microchipped her ages ago i know but we didnt think of clearance for disaese for new puppie owners. My breeders have been realy good and supportive and obviously i have their numbers on speed dial, Whilst you say didn't know about health checks prior to the mating, surely your mentor did? I find this very hard to accept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lappiemum Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 as far as keeping her away from other frequented dog areas, we will be doing that stringently for now on, goint to be hard but as she loves her exersise and so do i but before pregnancy she was very fit in preperation for pregnancy, so will keep her at home. Why do you need to keep her at home???????? Exercise her, she needs to be fit to have an easy labour, but don't take her to places dogs frequent - dog parks and beaches, vet clinics and the like. She will need to maintain her fitness for the birth - there are a lot of physical stresses that a bitch will go through as part of pregnancy and delivery, and fitness levels are important in how well these are handled. I wouldn't do any rigourous exercise - just regular and gentle, and keep an eye on her - if it appears that she is uncomfortable then leave it at that. As she gets bigger you will see her probably tone down her activity anyway. my staffords go as flat out for as long as they want, there's no point in trying to slow them down, you just let them do as they please and if you're lucky they might take it easy in the last week. There's nothing wrong with rigourous exercise, the only concern would be them doing it in the heat of the day, other than that, they can run, swim and play as much as they like. Thats ok RSG - we take it a bit easier, maybe it a case of different breeds, different needs. Just regular walks for us, and esp towards the end I keep a close on on whats comfortable for the bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 and if the bitch comes back as a carrier or effected what then ? surely the stud owner would have asked about the status of the bitch prior to mating ? if both her parents were clear and you had the paper work for them, you could have waited until the pups had their first vacc and chip and had the bitch done at the same time. There's only a 15 day turn around on the results . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lappiemum Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Its an interesting question. In our breed, PRA is the main problem, which can be tested for. If your dog was from a carrier litter, and is intended for breeding, in Vic the law (under the Code for Inheritable diseases) requires that you test for PRA status prior to breeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 L2-HGA and HC are the two that can be DNA tested in Staffords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missymoo Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 surely health testing was covered in your prefix exam?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aziah Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Is the sire of the litter 'clear/unaffected' for L2-HGA and HC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lappiemum Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 (edited) Is the sire of the litter 'clear/unaffected' for L2-HGA and HC? I would assume clear, as no-one in their right mind would put a carrier to an untested dog/bitch. Edited November 24, 2010 by lappiemum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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