WildatHeart Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 (edited) These aren’t my dogs but someone I know and I’m trying to get some ideas as to what may have affected them. The two dogs were about a year old Border Collie x Kelpie or similar cross and were just recently (a month or so) moved into a suburban backyard at a rental house. Last week one of them got sick, severe vomiting with no eating or drinking and this dog was sick for about a week and over the weekend got better. On Sunday the other dog got sick with the same symptoms as the first. It died yesterday. First thought was maybe bait, but I was told the dogs don’t bark and are locked up in a shed at night. However their neighbors have dogs that never stop barking. Then the thought of parvo crossed my mind….. There is also a third dog at the residence but this dog is a papered daschund and has all its vaccinations up to date, the other two dogs have never been vaccinated (were farm dogs) Eta: update about symptoms. Dog was drinking excessively, vomit was watery and they weren't too sure about the stools but think it was normal looking but runny, just little squirts. Dog was slightly shaking. Edited November 17, 2010 by WildatHeart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 What were the stools like? Any blood or a really awful sickening smell to them (Parvo poo has a distinctive smell to it). T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkabull Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Parvo vomit is usually clear and really sticky. If you get any on you it's like pizza cheese - clings and stretches, and yes parvo has a very distinctive smell. The first dog was lucky to survive if indeed it was parvo that they had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildatHeart Posted November 17, 2010 Author Share Posted November 17, 2010 I will see if I can find out about the vomit and stools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raz Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 (edited) Ask the person who owns the dogs if you can see a copy of the vet report. That's your best bet. Edited November 17, 2010 by raz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjelkier Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Sounds like they could have been baited. Just becuase they dont bark dosnt mean some sicko out there didnt just do it for the sake of it. Other then that Im with Raz, check the vet report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildatHeart Posted November 17, 2010 Author Share Posted November 17, 2010 First dog didnt go to the vet, second dog died before they had a chance to take it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 (edited) These aren’t my dogs but someone I know and I’m trying to get some ideas as to what may have affected them. The two dogs were about a year old Border Collie x Kelpie or similar cross and were just recently (a month or so) moved into a suburban backyard at a rental house. Last week one of them got sick, severe vomiting with no eating or drinking and this dog was sick for about a week and over the weekend got better. On Sunday the other dog got sick with the same symptoms as the first. It died yesterday. First thought was maybe bait, but I was told the dogs don’t bark and are locked up in a shed at night. However their neighbors have dogs that never stop barking. Then the thought of parvo crossed my mind….. There is also a third dog at the residence but this dog is a papered daschund and has all its vaccinations up to date, the other two dogs have never been vaccinated (were farm dogs) Shed on a rental property could be a absolute hot spot for toxic chemicals. I hope its well ventilated and hard floored. Any diagonsis based on vomitting alone would be sheer guess work but I'd be starting by eliminating common toxins like anti-freeze. This does seem to fit the bill: Clinical signs depend on how long it has been since the pet drank the antifreeze as well as the amount they drank. Early symptoms are much like alcohol intoxication. Dogs and cats may vomit due to the irritating effects of ethylene glycol on the stomach. They drink and urinate excessively and may be depressed and wobbly. The increased thirst is due to stimulation of the thirst centers of the brain. Pets may seem on the road to recovery twelve hours later as the ethylene glycol is metabolized by the liver and kidneys. However, a day later in cats and two days later in dogs the patients can suddenly become much worse. They may become depressed, weak, and dehydrated. They may develop diarrhea, mouth ulcers, rapid breathing and seizures. Their kidneys are often painful and swollen. I'd be looking for rat sac also. Edited November 17, 2010 by poodlefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raz Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 A week of severe vomiting and they didnt take him to the vet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xKALIx Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 did they have a necropsy done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poochmad Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 How terribly sad. I'd be looking for some sort of poison as well, including snail bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildatHeart Posted November 17, 2010 Author Share Posted November 17, 2010 (edited) A week of severe vomiting and they didnt take him to the vet? The dog nearly got the bullet but got better before it came out Eta: I don't support or agree with this btw Edited November 17, 2010 by WildatHeart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raz Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 It sounds pretty serious, Wild. I'd be telling the people you know to take the dead dog to the vet asap. If they've buried him already, tell them to dig him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Rules Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 A week of severe vomiting and they didnt take him to the vet? The dog nearly got the bullet but got better before it came out Eta: I don't support or agree with this btw Nice owners. No vet. Poor dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Rules Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 It sounds pretty serious, Wild. I'd be telling the people you know to take the dead dog to the vet asap. If they've buried him already, tell them to dig him up. Can't see anything remotely like that happening if the sick dog wasn't taken to the vet and almost got a bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raz Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 It sounds pretty serious, Wild. I'd be telling the people you know to take the dead dog to the vet asap. If they've buried him already, tell them to dig him up. Can't see anything remotely like that happening if the sick dog wasn't taken to the vet and almost got a bullet. The problem is that if it's something toxic in the yard they could very well end up with 2 more dogs who die a horrible death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Rules Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 It sounds pretty serious, Wild. I'd be telling the people you know to take the dead dog to the vet asap. If they've buried him already, tell them to dig him up. Can't see anything remotely like that happening if the sick dog wasn't taken to the vet and almost got a bullet. The problem is that if it's something toxic in the yard they could very well end up with 2 more dogs who die a horrible death. I agree but it doesn't sound like it really matters to owners who treat their dogs like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raz Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I agree but it doesn't sound like it really matters to owners who treat their dogs like that. I totally agree with you but Wild might be able to convince them. She obviously doesnt agree with what they did either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildatHeart Posted November 17, 2010 Author Share Posted November 17, 2010 I agree but it doesn't sound like it really matters to owners who treat their dogs like that. I totally agree with you but Wild might be able to convince them. She obviously doesnt agree with what they did either. If I had known last week about the dog I'm sure I would have been able to convince them to take it to the vet but I wasnt told until too late. Golden, I know this sounds tuff but most farm dogs will never ever see a vet. This is not an excuse for these people as the dogs were in town but the mentality stays the same for them. Before they took the dogs away (they were kept were I'm living for most of the year, I would slip wormers and flea treatment into them myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Poor dogs. I hope they didn't suffer too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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