SkySoaringMagpie Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 A friend in WA has three overseas orders that are at risk because she's been told by her AQIS vet that there is no rabies vaccine to be had for love or money in Australia, and that it will be January at the earliest, probably March until some is available. I'm not an AQIS vet but I work in another area of international trade and find it weird that a regional shortage caused by the Indonesian rabies crisis would affect say, supplies from the USA?? Or does the vaccine have to be AQIS registered on the way in to Australia or something? Could she not just get her AQIS vet to fax a script to the USA and get it shipped direct to Australia? Google is not helping, most of the rabies vaccine articles seem to be pretty dated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzat Xolo Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Gere I hope this is not true as I am wanting some in the early new year for a few dogs. Hope someone knows the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakway Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 There has been an out break of Rabies and all the vaccine available has been call in for urgent use which has left Australia and New Zealand's stock sadly depleted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stolzseinrotts Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 (edited) Yes as stated above there is a major shortage at present. It is a really bad time if you are flying dogs out to countries that require the vaccine prior to departure, best of luck to those that are and I hope you can secure the vaccine in time. Edited November 14, 2010 by Stolzseinrotts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzat Xolo Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Yes as stated above there is a major shortage at present. It is a really bad time if you are flying dogs out to countries that require the vaccine prior to departure, best of luck to those that are and I hope you can secure the vaccine in time. I wonder if you can import the vaccine through another country and have it sent to a vet for use? I realise its a Sched 8 drug and the strict requirements but dioes anyone know of any short cuts to get the vaccine here ? Happy to pay whatever it takes to get some here! Thanks in advance ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizT Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 There has been an out break of Rabies and all the vaccine available has been call in for urgent use which has left Australia and New Zealand's stock sadly depleted. Sorry, where had this outbreak occurred oakway? Indonesia? It would be a terrible thing for this disease to get into Australia, our Quarantine laws have not been up to scratch or kept in line with the increase of overseas travel. We have been fortunate so far. This became very evident with the horse flu outbreak a couple of years ago. I wonder if our Fruit bats would carry rabies or if it is limited to omnivores and carnivores?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakway Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 I heard it on the news and the announcer said South ?????????? some where. I have forgotten but I did take it to be somewhere in South America or South Africa. Evidently an exceptionally bad out break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizT Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 I heard it on the news and the announcer said South ?????????? some where. I have forgotten but I did take it to be somewhere in South America or South Africa.Evidently an exceptionally bad out break. That does leave those exporting with a worrying problem then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakway Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 I heard it on the news and the announcer said South ?????????? some where. I have forgotten but I did take it to be somewhere in South America or South Africa.Evidently an exceptionally bad out break. That does leave those exporting with a worrying problem then. Yes it may pose a problem for those exporting. Now it will depend on where the dog is going. If quarantine regulations have not changes for USA it should not be a problem. When I last read those (yonks ago now) the dog could be done by the new owner in the states. Many times it was said it was better to have them done there because of all the paper work involved and their state laws. The rest of the world could pose a problem though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelsun Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 None of the dogs that were exported to me in Canada required a rabies shot prior to leaving. It was MY responsibility to do this when they got to Canada and it was on an honour system that it was done. The last dog to be imported by me happened in April of 2008, so not that long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowenhart Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 100 people have died from rabies in Bali in the last 2 years, so vets from Australia and NZ are doing mass vaccinations up there to get the situation under control and possibly save some people from suffering. More info here. It's bad that there is now a shortage of the vaccine in Australia but if we weigh up the inconvenience versus the cost of human life, I know which way I fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mersonmalinois Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 I wonder if our Fruit bats would carry rabies or if it is limited to omnivores and carnivores?? Liz, All mammals can carry rabies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgrubber Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 If there's a shortage, I don't see why they don't just place an order. Jeffers appears to have rabies vaccine in stock.... http://www.jefferspet.com/vaccines/c/10025/start/16/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yarrowfell Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 If there's a shortage, I don't see why they don't just place an order. Jeffers appears to have rabies vaccine in stock....http://www.jefferspet.com/vaccines/c/10025/start/16/ Having just done two dogs in the ACT there is only one vet with a supply here at present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakway Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 If there's a shortage, I don't see why they don't just place an order. Jeffers appears to have rabies vaccine in stock....http://www.jefferspet.com/vaccines/c/10025/start/16/ I am not sure but have always been told that the Government controls all of the Rabies vaccine here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowenhart Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 If there's a shortage, I don't see why they don't just place an order. Jeffers appears to have rabies vaccine in stock....http://www.jefferspet.com/vaccines/c/10025/start/16/ I have a feeling that the importation of rabies vaccine is controlled, so that one one or two companies can bring it in. I also suspect that it would take time to get the paperwork sorted. Are they slack? Yes! If a whole load of the vaccine was taken to Indonesia by Aus/NZ vets then they should be bringing in more. Maybe we should find who brings the vaccine in and ask why they haven't arranged for more to be imported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freundhund Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 The shortage of Rabies vaccine is due to the Australia and New Zealand governments being asked to provide all available vaccine to Indonesia to help as people are dying due to an extreme rabies outbreak. Rabies vaccine apparently takes a while to produce, apparently stock is sent to Australia and New Zealand at the end of the Northern Hemisphere's summer when the rabies level drops there. Also the number of laboratories licence to produce rabies vaccination is limited, as all rabies vaccines have to be protected from become "biological weapons". The research my daughter has been doing has also been held up due to the shortage of rabies vaccinations, this is why I am lucky to have the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyosha Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I wonder if our Fruit bats would carry rabies or if it is limited to omnivores and carnivores?? You might be thinking of the Australian Bat Lyssavirus. It is closely related to rabies and can be carried by bats within Australia - fruit bats and insectivorous ones. It is transferrable to any other mammal, including humans - by bat scratch or bite. Prevention is with normal rabies vaccine. Wazzat and SSM there would likely be more stocks in the US where it is used more widely. Perhaps it could be sourced from there? There was a decent supply in the ACT last year when there was a bat population boom, with hospitals, doctors and vets. I don't know if there would still be some around or if it may have been recalled to this overseas emergency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzat Xolo Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I wonder if our Fruit bats would carry rabies or if it is limited to omnivores and carnivores?? You might be thinking of the Australian Bat Lyssavirus. It is closely related to rabies and can be carried by bats within Australia - fruit bats and insectivorous ones. It is transferrable to any other mammal, including humans - by bat scratch or bite. Prevention is with normal rabies vaccine. Wazzat and SSM there would likely be more stocks in the US where it is used more widely. Perhaps it could be sourced from there? There was a decent supply in the ACT last year when there was a bat population boom, with hospitals, doctors and vets. I don't know if there would still be some around or if it may have been recalled to this overseas emergency. Yes I think some people are confusing the two, thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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