mortonplace Posted October 17, 2010 Author Share Posted October 17, 2010 (edited) Hmmm obviosly a few here dont belive the RSPCA kill animals that can be homed. Why, because we are not gullible enough to watch and believe some seriously prejudiced garbage on youtube? :D The youtube clip is seriously redneck. http://www.sosnews.org/newsfront/?p=532Hey Anne just for you seeing your in NSW.. http://www.sosnews.org/newsfront/?p=532 Edited October 17, 2010 by mortonplace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortonplace Posted October 17, 2010 Author Share Posted October 17, 2010 (edited) lts not just dogs either...Humane way of culling???? Edited October 17, 2010 by mortonplace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 (edited) .Humane way of culling???? Yes. for the cows. A well placed bullet provides an instant death . The NPWS shooting from choppers was ill advised, and marksmen were perhaps poorly chosen. :D Edited October 17, 2010 by persephone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 (edited) Mortonplace , a question? You are suddenly the one who makes decisions pertaining to a) managing feral animals, and b) managing the overpopulation of dogs/cats. What would your plans be? Edited October 17, 2010 by persephone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Hmmm obviosly a few here dont belive the RSPCA kill animals that can be homed. Why, because we are not gullible enough to watch and believe some seriously prejudiced garbage on youtube? The youtube clip is seriously redneck. Do you truely belive its redneck stuff :D Did you watch the other videos most likely not l just dont like the thought of the RSPCA being given extra powers, when this type of thing is there easy solution :D Hey, I'm with you when it comes to the issues associated with the power of the RSPCA and the fact that they are answerable to no-one. However, running riot with factless videos is not conducive to the debate. There are issues, most will agree with that. By the way, I have no need to watch more idiotic videos about the issue. I am more for sensible, logical and intelligent debate. Those videos remind me of PETA tactics to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Hmmm obviosly a few here dont belive the RSPCA kill animals that can be homed. Why, because we are not gullible enough to watch and believe some seriously prejudiced garbage on youtube? :D The youtube clip is seriously redneck. http://www.sosnews.org/newsfront/?p=532Hey Anne just for you seeing your in NSW.. http://www.sosnews.org/newsfront/?p=532 You're not serious are you? This is the reverse end of PETA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackiemad Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Absolutely horrifying. Doesn't the RSPCA get subsidies from the government for every dog that is put down?? I don't think too highly of them as it is and I think that reality speaks for itself...this is not a case of "scaremongering." not in vic. they get a certain amount of money that is put towards running the inspectorate - so cars, petrol etc the rest of their money is from public donations. and aside from the obvious fact that many of the dogs seem unconnected to each other in the video and the vid is from the uk: of course healthy dogs get put down in the RSPCA. some aren't suitable (agressive, seriously anxious/fearful, poorly trained 'guard dogs') and some sit in adoptions waiting for families that never come. sometimes because they are working breed or because they have behaviour problems like howling and escaping which ended them in there in the first place. if that stresses you out then you really don't want to know how many pet/stray/loose cats get destroyed. unless they are very smoochy and pretty and young they have pretty much no chance, even when they are given plenty of time, people don't want them. (yes i am connected to the rspca vic. i have said that before, i say it again. i am always upfront about that.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPaws Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 I think it's terrible that any animal is mistreated and potentially euthanased. I know a lot of people here are very much against the RSPCA, but I think you should look at each individual state instead of putting them all in the same basket. I hate that dogs are put through that stupid temperament test and if they fail they are killled, but lets be realistic, there are not enough homes for all of the unwanted dogs out there. Maybe if more people would consider fostering dogs, we could save more of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortonplace Posted October 17, 2010 Author Share Posted October 17, 2010 .Humane way of culling???? Yes. for the cows. A well placed bullet provides an instant death . The NPWS shooting from choppers was ill advised, and marksmen were perhaps poorly chosen. :D Well l wasnt there so really cant answer that the [what looks like a 22]killed the cows straight away. l live in country vic and have seen a few cows get shot with a simular rifle,but they didnt die straight away eith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortonplace Posted October 17, 2010 Author Share Posted October 17, 2010 lm defo not with PETA :D ... ALL IM SAYING IS SHOULD these people be given more powers?? Be able to come a take your dogs without any proff of cruelty? To charge you a daily fee for there up keep whilst you fight them in court? There public funded id like to know were the money all goes? Also i know we cant find homes for all dogs,but isnt that why the puppyfarms must be stopped? impulse buys should be regualated? lm not here to preach to the unpreachable. Nor do i want to have a debate about it either,but there is plenty more evidence out there to back what lm saying. We all need to step back and see were our good breeders maybe in a year or two. l used to donate to them for 20 years...l dont and wont anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♪♫LMBC♫♪ Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 lm defo not with PETA :D ...ALL IM SAYING IS SHOULD these people be given more powers?? Be able to come a take your dogs without any proff of cruelty? To charge you a daily fee for there up keep whilst you fight them in court? There public funded id like to know were the money all goes? Also i know we cant find homes for all dogs,but isnt that why the puppyfarms must be stopped? impulse buys should be regualated? lm not here to preach to the unpreachable. Nor do i want to have a debate about it either,but there is plenty more evidence out there to back what lm saying. We all need to step back and see were our good breeders maybe in a year or two. l used to donate to them for 20 years...l dont and wont anymore I don't really support the RSPCA either but it is impossible not to euthanise some healthy animals, there is simply not enough room for all of them. What we should be focusing on, is the puppy farmers, petshops and BYBs who are causing this problem in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 lm defo not with PETA :D ...ALL IM SAYING IS SHOULD these people be given more powers?? Be able to come a take your dogs without any proff of cruelty? To charge you a daily fee for there up keep whilst you fight them in court? There public funded id like to know were the money all goes? Also i know we cant find homes for all dogs,but isnt that why the puppyfarms must be stopped? impulse buys should be regualated? lm not here to preach to the unpreachable. Nor do i want to have a debate about it either,but there is plenty more evidence out there to back what lm saying. We all need to step back and see were our good breeders maybe in a year or two. l used to donate to them for 20 years...l dont and wont anymore I hear you, I really do. We must also recognise that they do also do a lot of good. There are problems, and we need to stand up and be heard when it comes to these problems (and pray we are not too late) but we can do this in a united and sensible manner. Scaremongering campaigns should be left to the likes of PETA as I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dust Angel Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 I also understand that RSPCA have some issues and not just the ones alluded to. HOWEVER my local branch (rural) is 100% volunteer run and do many, many great things in our area. They have take the local pound over and it is now a zero kill pound. Once the official amount of time has lapsed council give the dogs and cats to the RSPCA and they desex and then all animals go into foster care until adopted. In the last five years they have rehomed thousands of animals and only 5 dogs have been PTS due to temperament issues and 10 cats due to being to feral (after several months of handleing) to rehome. They have a revolving roster so that whilst in the pound the dogs are taken for long walks and the cats are handled. Our local inspector is also a volunteer, she works full times, currently fosters 10 dogs as well as her own 3 and she always attends to EVERY cruelty report as soon as humanely possible. So i understand where you are coming from but i dont think it is fair to tar the whole organisation with the same brush. Im sure that our local chapter is not the only one that operates like this. I would hate for my local chapter to stop receiving donations they work damn hard for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPaws Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 My quote button doesn't seem to work I totally agree that puppy farmers are the primary cause of this issue and need to be stopped. Any organisation can become corrupt when the wrong people are in charge. It might be best to target the individual RSPCA branches that are doing the wrong thing, rather than attacking them all. After all, without the RSPCA, animals have NO rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sallyandtex Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 People need to watch the other videos of the RSPCA shooting cows to leave there calfs motherless Sorry but i dont see the point ,as them cows and calves had a home and owner :D just cause the RSPCA said they were starveing they put them down. The cows look in good condition to me They didnt even take the calves and feed them :D insane i say :p instead they left them with the owner to tend to I like to donate to org's that rehome, but understand that ,because of the many reasons discussed many times(irresponsible owners,pet shops, puppy farms etc), there are always going to be dumped and maltreated animals that are "humanely" put down mainly because there is not enough funds of space to cope. I wouldn't beleive everything you see on utube. I am glad you are passionate about animal welfare though. I hope you are also clued up on pig farms etc. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bones* Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 The lessons of Rozzie the resucer, Mrs. Gard the TS breeder and exhibitor, owners of pitbulls, owners of docked dogs, plus other breeders/owners targetted by the RSPCA have been forgotten or ignored by the majority, apparently. Breeders have been following the progression of the RSPCA from cruelty investigator/prosecutor to mega business and have decided to walk away. RSPCA is too powerful to even contemplate challenging. The governments wish to continue the input from the RSPCA, so give them more power to appease them When they are the most powerful institution in the country, there will be NO animal cruelty apart from random acts - puppy farms will flourish - but dogs will be so scarce that owners will cease abusing them. A good outcome perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Hmmm obviosly a few here dont belive the RSPCA kill animals that can be homed.Even the fact that animals have died by being killed [RSPCA officers]seems hard for a few to belive. What do you think will happen when the RSPCA decide to seize your dog/cat/cow ect ect , and put it down within the new laws there just been given. l dont think the video's are over the top or made up, and lve posted this for awareness to the fact that the RSPCA rely on donations and also use donated money to put dogs down with inhumane methods. To the few here that think its nothing to worry about,ld say you need to read and learn abit more about the new powers/laws this ORG has been given. We as dog luvers need to stop supporting such ORG and spread the word ....Donate to non kill shelters instead of a ORG full of deseat and lies Mortonplace, I do believe RSPCA euthanase animals that can be rehomed. Thank you for posting the video. Please don't feel I am attacking you, I'm not at all, just simply stating my opinion. Like I said, I understand you are passionate about the subject, as am I but the video, to me, seemed angry, over the top and had un-necessary references. But that's the beauty of free thinking and speech, each and every one of us having the freedom to have different opinions. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 The lessons of Rozzie the resucer, Mrs. Gard the TS breeder and exhibitor, owners of pitbulls, owners of docked dogs, plus other breeders/owners targetted by the RSPCA have been forgotten or ignored by the majority, apparently.Breeders have been following the progression of the RSPCA from cruelty investigator/prosecutor to mega business and have decided to walk away. RSPCA is too powerful to even contemplate challenging. The governments wish to continue the input from the RSPCA, so give them more power to appease them When they are the most powerful institution in the country, there will be NO animal cruelty apart from random acts - puppy farms will flourish - but dogs will be so scarce that owners will cease abusing them. A good outcome perhaps? No, they haven't been ignored or forgotten 'apparently' by anyone anymore than the animals that are saved and assisted by the RSCPA are ignored or forgotten. It is a case of balancing the facts. Looking at the world with one eye won't help anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbesotted Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 i am cynical when confronted with videos like those in the links but I REMEMBER CLIFFORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now