mortonplace Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 ;) So sorry everyone but something must be done to stop this madness And to top it off there are new laws giveing the RSPCA move powers PLEASE WARNING VEIWING MY OFFENED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 (edited) It is a UK video ..... it is sad, and I have seen worse. Edited October 17, 2010 by persephone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Jeez, I'm not a fan of the RSPCA but that just looks like a bunch of scaremongering to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortonplace Posted October 17, 2010 Author Share Posted October 17, 2010 It is a UK video ..... it is sad, and I have seen worse. There are videos to the right of the screen that are Australian. Does it really matter what country???? An org thats meant to help rehiome animals killing them instead SHOULDNT be given any donations FULLSTOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortonplace Posted October 17, 2010 Author Share Posted October 17, 2010 Jeez, I'm not a fan of the RSPCA but that just looks like a bunch of scaremongering to me. Scaremongering?????please explain Death is death not a joke or scaremongering. Animals are getting put down NOT supported with peoples donations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zug Zug Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 I think the argument about not much being done in genuine cruelty cases is a different one, but I don't see how we can expect them to stop euthanasing healthy dogs. Are we suggesting that no dogs should be put down? I don't agree with that. Some dogs are not suitable for rehoming. Others are, but no-one wants them so they stay in the pound for week after week after week. What are we expecting? RSPCA don't have the funds to provide permanent homes for dogs no-one wants. I don't work for the RSPCA or anything like that. And I don't know the details of why the dogs in the vid were put down, and it may have been unnecessary. I have an ex-pound-poodle at home, who I am proud to have given a home to for the past 11 years. But I know that's not available to every dog that winds up in the pound. I wish it were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moselle Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Absolutely horrifying. Doesn't the RSPCA get subsidies from the government for every dog that is put down?? I don't think too highly of them as it is and I think that reality speaks for itself...this is not a case of "scaremongering." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 I don't think death is a joke, where did you get that from? I mean, is there any factual evidence that the first dog went to a home where he/she was left in the snow? It seems to me, more likely that's where the dog was rescued from. Is the any evidence the 3 dogs mentioned at the end of the video are actually dead? The gun and blood references were over the top. I get you are passionate about the subject and so am I but that video was way over the top. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frufru Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Sorry I don't agree with a 100% no kill policy. Some dogs, for behavioural or medical reasons, are not suitable to rehome. It is a difficult decision but at the end of the day there are limited funds and fascilities to house homeless animals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 I can't beleive anyome would watch the video and expect that it is truthful WHERE is the evidence of anything that is claimed? Seriously. You see a GSD that is obviously not fabulously cared for and then you see a dog that appears to be it dead with a head wound. Where is the evidence that the RSPCA killed the dog at all or that they killed it needlessly or so grpahically if they did? What about the person who took all the pics? Why were they taking the pics? Only a fool would watch such a thing and take it as gospel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 I don't think death is a joke, where did you get that from? I mean, is there any factual evidence that the first dog went to a home where he/she was left in the snow? It seems to me, more likely that's where the dog was rescued from. Is the any evidence the 3 dogs mentioned at the end of the video are actually dead? The gun and blood references were over the top. I get you are passionate about the subject and so am I but that video was way over the top. Just my opinion. Yes, I so totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanabanana Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 I saw the Bruno bit and closed it because it looks ridiculous. The first picture of Bruno appears to be a totally different dog to the one left in the snow...and different again to the one with the head wound (that dog looks kinda red). Can't be bothered to watch something that it biasly edited and without any continuity/consistency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 (edited) An org thats meant to help rehiome animals killing them instead SHOULDNT be given any donations FULLSTOP The SPCA is not an organisation for rehoming animals - their real place in the world is the prevention of cruelty, hopefully through education, enforcement of exisiting laws and helping/suggesting changes to the laws where they see a need. The latter is a joke, and I don't support the SPCA as even though I believe the workers on the ground floor are well meaning and great, the heirarchy is just nuts.... but this doesn't alter the FACT that their place is not meant to be a giant rehoming service. Have you any actual proof that destroying animals with a captive bolt is any worse than any other method of destroying animals? I have seen dogs & large farm animals shot, with an experienced person they are dead before they hit the ground and I could not see how they could have suffered more than a split second of pain. Are captive bolts less humane than bullets? I have personally experienced two of my own dogs being put down by injection and they did not go down as quickly as the shot dogs I have seen. (I have had other dogs put down by injection which did go down straight away) Edited October 17, 2010 by Sandra777 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortonplace Posted October 17, 2010 Author Share Posted October 17, 2010 Hmmm obviosly a few here dont belive the RSPCA kill animals that can be homed. Even the fact that animals have died by being killed [RSPCA officers]seems hard for a few to belive. What do you think will happen when the RSPCA decide to seize your dog/cat/cow ect ect , and put it down within the new laws there just been given. l dont think the video's are over the top or made up, and lve posted this for awareness to the fact that the RSPCA rely on donations and also use donated money to put dogs down with inhumane methods. To the few here that think its nothing to worry about,ld say you need to read and learn abit more about the new powers/laws this ORG has been given. We as dog luvers need to stop supporting such ORG and spread the word ....Donate to non kill shelters instead of a ORG full of deseat and lies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortonplace Posted October 17, 2010 Author Share Posted October 17, 2010 People need to watch the other videos of the RSPCA shooting cows to leave there calfs motherless Sorry but i dont see the point ,as them cows and calves had a home and owner just cause the RSPCA said they were starveing they put them down. The cows look in good condition to me They didnt even take the calves and feed them ;) insane i say instead they left them with the owner to tend to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Hmmm obviosly a few here dont belive the RSPCA kill animals that can be homed. MOST animals "can'' be homed, even the most fear-aggressive dog in the world ''could'' find a home - but being realistic, how many of the animals killed by the SPCA (or any other organisation for that matter) could realistically be rehomed with an average joe-public owner who wants a trouble free easily trained no-issues dog (for example) and lacks the skills to manage anything more complex than a dodgy recall? No I don't agree with a lot of things the SPCA do, but sometimes the real world does get in the way of what we'd like to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zug Zug Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 (edited) Mortonplace, please don't misunderstand what we're trying to say. I do believe that the RSPCA kill animals - including healthy animals, in some cases. But unfortunately I don't believe that animal welfare can be managed without killing some healthy animals. Which is awful, isn't it? But an awful reality, unfortunately. I think the video is an emotive product - made by people who have obviously been impacted personally by the loss of some dogs that were special to them. It is brutal in some places, but I don't find it convincing or persuasive. It's a very one-sided presentation of some information that may or may not be truthful, but is certainly not a balanced presentation of facts. I don't believe we should only support 'no-kill' shelters. I do think we should only support ethical breeders. And I do think we should also support public education about the responsibilities of dog ownership. I have no doubt that the RSPCA do things that I would oppose, at times. And where they do things that contravene public values, or their own policies, they should be made accountable for that. But I don't think putting down animals is, in itself, necessarily a bad thing to do. Sometimes, unfortunately, it is probably necessary. Edited October 17, 2010 by Zug Zug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Hmmm obviosly a few here dont belive the RSPCA kill animals that can be homed. Why, because we are not gullible enough to watch and believe some seriously prejudiced garbage on youtube? :D The youtube clip is seriously redneck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 The youtube clip is seriously 'something!' :D would be interested to find out what spurred the maker to produce it - there were obviously nasty happenings which hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortonplace Posted October 17, 2010 Author Share Posted October 17, 2010 Hmmm obviosly a few here dont belive the RSPCA kill animals that can be homed. Why, because we are not gullible enough to watch and believe some seriously prejudiced garbage on youtube? The youtube clip is seriously redneck. Do you truely belive its redneck stuff :D Did you watch the other videos most likely not l just dont like the thought of the RSPCA being given extra powers, when this type of thing is there easy solution :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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