dandybrush Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 ok i have looked through the tick thread pinned in the forum proban seems to be the best for ticks, however they have to bite to be stopped, so from what i understand they should be on proban and something else to stop them. i want to know what you are using for ticks, and does it work? (have you had any ticks?) my boy wears a tick collar atm, but he swims, so does that mean it wont be working? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussielover Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 If he swims the tick collar won't be effective! I am using frontline and advantix, alternating the two very two weeks. Have not had any ticks yet. Was using a tick collar as well but kept forgetting to take it off for swimming. If you do remeber to take it off for a swim it takes 24 hrs to be effective again so not worth it imo. I would use proban on a coated breed for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandybrush Posted October 14, 2010 Author Share Posted October 14, 2010 sorry what do you mean on a coated breed? my boy has a short coat.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussielover Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Oh sorry i just meant medium- long haired dog inn general (like my last dog). I wasn't specifically referring to your dog. Proban is supposed to be one of the most effective. If you were really worried i would use proban plus either FL or advantix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandybrush Posted October 14, 2010 Author Share Posted October 14, 2010 thanx aussielover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Best prevention: don't live in a tick area When I visit one I use Proban and Advantix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xyz Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 (edited) I work as a VN and (so far) have not seen any affected dogs that are using advantix fortnightly.. (I personally wouldnt use proban full time, it is an organophosphete) Just IMO Edited October 14, 2010 by Livforlabs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Livforlabs said: I work as a VN and (so far) have not seen any affected dogs that are using advantix fortnightly.. (I personally wouldnt use proban full time, it is an organophosphete) Just IMO I agree. My usual time in tick areas is less than a week. With poodle coat, I'm prepared to give an organophosphate for that period of time. I do manual searches but I'd not like to miss anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandybrush Posted October 14, 2010 Author Share Posted October 14, 2010 good one poodle fan im not moving what is a organophosphate? how does that affect the dogs? might just have to go back on advantix, i was finding it too exy which is why i changed to the tick collar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 dandybrush said: good one poodle fan im not moving what is a organophosphate? how does that affect the dogs? might just have to go back on advantix, i was finding it too exy which is why i changed to the tick collar The one in proban is an insecticide. You're basically making your dog toxic to ticks - to do that you're loading the dog with a chemical substance than can be highly toxic if the dog has prolonged exposure or achieves a high enough dose. Liver damange is one potential side effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowenhart Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 I've found no one product gives 100% protection and in the end it I'd recommend daily checks (even twice daily) for ticks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandybrush Posted October 15, 2010 Author Share Posted October 15, 2010 oh no!! nope not putting my baby on that then, might just have to spend the money on advantix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 (edited) dandybrush said: oh no!! nope not putting my baby on that then, might just have to spend the money on advantix Permoxin is another option. A weekly permoxin rinse is meant to be pretty effective. You can also make it into a spray for more frequent use. Edited October 15, 2010 by poodlefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandybrush Posted October 15, 2010 Author Share Posted October 15, 2010 will it still work when he swims alot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Q Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 I use Avantix every 3 weeks and check daily. Never even had a tick. *knock on wood* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frufru Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 (edited) As I said in a previous thread - one of the local vets has her own dog on Proban - we live in an extreme tick area and you have to weigh the risks up. My old girl was hospitalised twice for ticks as a younger dog and I am sure this contributed to her heart condition which eventually killed her - she never got a tick whilst on Proban. Other chemicals are not without risk either. I usually put my show dogs on Proban as I am sure the frequent washing associated with showing a poodle decreases the efficacy of topspots not to mention the greaseball you get on the back of the neck. My retired male wears a tick collar and has a very short haircut in summer and we never go bush during summer our walking is done round the village. Edited October 15, 2010 by frufru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandybrush Posted October 15, 2010 Author Share Posted October 15, 2010 (edited) thanx frufru all good points, im going to also discuss with the vet, but am leaning towards maybe proban (or that spray instead) just during summer and advantix also Edited October 15, 2010 by dandybrush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niques Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 I normally use Frontline and a tick collar, but like others, I can't seem to keep the collar dry so he's without one at present. I meant to ask the vet about Proban but completely forgot. I live in a high tick area. We know his vet outside of a professional capacity and have been frequently hearing, for the past couple of weeks, the number of tick cases they're seeing. Very worrying Do people notice a marked difference between Frontline and Advantix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skruffy n Flea Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 i wanted to use proban but i couldn't get it in the time i need and so, frontline plus, a topical, is apparently the only other way to go! i have no stats, one way or the other about effectiveness; what i do know is that i'd prefer an oral drug rather than a topical for my two dogs and it guts me that, due to whatever reason, proban is not readily available and so i am forced to use frontline plus... *spits* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheena Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 I use Advantix every two to three weeks. I buy the largest pack then squeeze it into a very small container & use a small needleless syringe to measure the appropriate amount to use on her. The amount is .1ml per kg of dog. On my 18 kilo dog I give a little extra ...about 2.2 to 2.5 ml. this way it works out a lot cheaper. From November to February I also put her on Proban. However even with both Advantix & Proban being used she still gets covered in little grass ticks & sometimes I resort to the Permoxin as well. Unfortunately, the ticks have to still attach & bite before they die & fall off. Sometimes I feel I am really giving her a chemical overload....but what is the alternative :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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