Nevafollo Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Hey guys. So went and had our puggy bitch xrayed today and the little miss is only hidding ONE baby. How rude! Anyway the vet basically told us it was our choice wether we do a c-section or not he said had it been a non-brachy breed he would have said just go about things as normal but because puggies have a high incident of c-sectrion births he said things could go either way and its entirely upto us with how we proceed. So I have asked a few puggy friends (one of which owns the sire) and now I am asking you guys, would you leave her and see how she goes our would you book her for the c-section and with an optional c-section what day would you do it on? Thanx in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisart Dobes Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Its highly unlikely that one puppy will trigger contractions anyway - in any breed not just yours. I would C-section her - at least you will have one live puppy. Just as likely you wait and proceed or try as normal and then have to do an emergency C - nothing worse, stress, $$$$$$$$$$$$$$, possibly losing pup and bitch. Nuh, If it were me I would take control and you will all come out better in the end. Good luck & enjoy the bub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rysup Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 After loosing my singleton puppy I would go the c-section route. My Lhasa girl was mated and we didnt think she had taken. Then one day she was getting all weird, so went to the vet and ultrasound showed one pup. We went home to let things progress and while we got him out, and he was alive, it must have been too much on him because he died after 12 hours. She was a small girl and he was a big puppy, and it caused her a LOT of pain, and I had to literally pull him out of her. Ive never had a puppy that big in a bitch that small. So if I had that again, I would get the c-section, only because I know how big a single baby can get. And there is always the chance that they wont go into labour with just one either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevafollo Posted October 7, 2010 Author Share Posted October 7, 2010 Its highly unlikely that one puppy will trigger contractions anyway - in any breed not just yours. I would C-section her - at least you will have one live puppy. Just as likely you wait and proceed or try as normal and then have to do an emergency C - nothing worse, stress, $$$$$$$$$$$$$$, possibly losing pup and bitch. Nuh, If it were me I would take control and you will all come out better in the end.Good luck & enjoy the bub. Thanks, what i bolded I had no idea of so thats interesting to know. I am leaning towards a c-section anyway because Im just too worried that something will go wrong, but thought I would ask. Also does anyone have any information in regards to dealing with just one bub, Im assuming that i will have to do a fair bit of work raising this little guy or girl right as he or she wont have litter mates to rough house with ect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevafollo Posted October 7, 2010 Author Share Posted October 7, 2010 After loosing my singleton puppy I would go the c-section route.My Lhasa girl was mated and we didnt think she had taken. Then one day she was getting all weird, so went to the vet and ultrasound showed one pup. We went home to let things progress and while we got him out, and he was alive, it must have been too much on him because he died after 12 hours. She was a small girl and he was a big puppy, and it caused her a LOT of pain, and I had to literally pull him out of her. Ive never had a puppy that big in a bitch that small. So if I had that again, I would get the c-section, only because I know how big a single baby can get. And there is always the chance that they wont go into labour with just one either. Sorry to hear you lost your little one Rysup. Yes I keep getting told that chances are the baby in there is quite big. Lets put it this way my girl is looking VERY preggers so i can only imagine just how big that little grub is I really thought she would have atleast 2-4 in there, just the one really is quite annoying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aziah Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 I'd go ahead and do the c-section but not before I'd done a prog level for a reading or a decent temp drop/first stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rysup Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Yes it is most annoying! However, having my girls miss the last few attempts, can I say that one is better than none! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puglvr Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Can't really give any concrete advise but go with your instincts. Had one pug girl deliver a singleton when she wasn't supposed to be in pup and one girl loose hers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellz Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 I'd be sectioning too. Either at the temp drop or after a prog test, whichever is easiest. For me it's the temp drop, I don't have a local vet to get fast prog results. Just to explain about a singleton puppy not triggering labour. Labour is a result of hormones. A singleton puppy often does not create enough of these hormones to start things along properly or if things start, sometimes to continue things as they should be. After my experience with my American Cocker bitch and her two puppies last year and my Stafford bitch and her 9 puppies last year, I think I will always err on the side of caution now when it comes to very small, or large litters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevafollo Posted October 7, 2010 Author Share Posted October 7, 2010 thanx guys shes booked in on monday for tests and we will go from there i am watching her temp thou to see if she goes sooner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ark Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Good luck, SB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andisa Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Sammy - I would be booking in for a C section too - one puppy will most likely be a big pup and as mentioned above she may not labour naturally anyway. I have heard several people lose the pup with single litters so would not risk waiting to see. Good luck.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarracully Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 After loosing my singleton puppy I would go the c-section route.My Lhasa girl was mated and we didnt think she had taken. Then one day she was getting all weird, so went to the vet and ultrasound showed one pup. We went home to let things progress and while we got him out, and he was alive, it must have been too much on him because he died after 12 hours. She was a small girl and he was a big puppy, and it caused her a LOT of pain, and I had to literally pull him out of her. Ive never had a puppy that big in a bitch that small. So if I had that again, I would get the c-section, only because I know how big a single baby can get. And there is always the chance that they wont go into labour with just one either. Sorry to hear you lost your little one Rysup. Yes I keep getting told that chances are the baby in there is quite big. Lets put it this way my girl is looking VERY preggers so i can only imagine just how big that little grub is :D I really thought she would have atleast 2-4 in there, just the one really is quite annoying! ;) We once had an ultrasound done on a bitch and the vet said he saw two pups for certain. He did also say that there may be others but wouldn't say for sure. Also said if it were anyone else he wouldn't have mentioned the possibility of more at all. Ended up with 5 on the ground, which is a fair size litter for our breed. I was always of the view there were more than the vet was letting on. Her size just seemed too big for only two. She was huge and her belly was nearly touching the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Myschafis~ Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Another vote for the caesar, purely for the fact you are controlling 'some' of the variables in the situation that could go poorly for you. Also the time frame can be more suitable. If its anything to go by our dogs seem to know after hours and weekend rates very well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunnwarren Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 I had one of our silky terriers xrayed 3 weeks ago, one big pup vet told me. Opted for the csection as vet said there was a likelyhood of contractions starting but not strong enough to push pup out. We ended up with one very BIG boy, mum and pup doing well now. Good luck!! Anky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PomsNZ Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 I have a bitch who doenst know how to produce more than singletons lol. First litter with me was a natural, but boy was stillborn. second, natural as well, but he is fine and well. (not however if he doesnt stop barking) I xray them now, as close to due date as i can, and take it from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevafollo Posted October 13, 2010 Author Share Posted October 13, 2010 Would just like to thank everyone for their advise and help. Unfortunately this morning our baby was deliver but he was dead. The vet said we had done everything right and sometimes these things just happen saddest part is he was exactly what I was hoping for. We named him Monster as we thought he was going to be one biiig baby but suprising us all he really wasnt very big. We will have another crack next season and hopefully little monster will have some brothers and sisters to look down upon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rysup Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 So sorry to hear Sammy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aziah Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 So sorry Sammy - did the vet suggest he'd been non-viable for long? I wish you all the best next time you try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevafollo Posted October 13, 2010 Author Share Posted October 13, 2010 So sorry Sammy - did the vet suggest he'd been non-viable for long?I wish you all the best next time you try Yeah he did suggest that even if we had taken him out sooner that the outcome would have been the same unfortunately. Im kind of glad he was born dead if he wasnt quite right as if he had been born then had had to be PTS due to a cleft palete or similar I dont think I would have coped very well with that. I should add that Rebel is happy and health and snoring away here like nothing has happened...poor little mite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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