Mallo Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 hey guys my friend got a husky pup about 2 months ago and she has been told to take it back to the breeder as there maybe a problem with it. when she first brought it home it jumped up onto the couch and hid its head under a pillow and the next 4 weeks it did the same thing now that she has it out side she cant catch it to take it to puppy school and she is very upset that she may have to get rid of her husky as she has wanted one now for years has this happened to anyone else or does anyone know how we can fix this problem thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthdog Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Why is the pup outside? What happens when pup is fed? Does he/she come near your friend then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 This sounds very odd. So - the pup is just running feral in the backyard, and won't come to anyone? What advice did the vet give her? What did the breeder say when she phoned them to tell them of this behaviour? was it them who suggested returning the pup? Can you give us some more info? Pup's age when your friend bought it? what training did they do with it at first? Where was it sleeping? Have they had dogs before? Extra info will help us understand a bit more of what's happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskedaway Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Sounds like the puppy might be pretty timid. As a husky owner who experienced a similar thing, it can be very frustrating and upsetting knowing that your baby is scared of you. The first thing and most important thing is that huskies are pack dogs. Their place is with the family. Therefore the puppy needs to be allowed inside and wherever its owner is. If it's not and is forced to remain outside, it's never going to get used to your friend and no turnaround can happen. Like Earthdog asked, does the pup come over to your friend when they have food? Is there a toy that they can lure it over with? Food played a major part in Akira's turnaround because we were able to lure her over and she learnt that we were a good thing, not a bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverHaze Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 ...and this is why it's so important to purchase your puppy from a responsible ethical registered breeder! And do you research. Did you friend meet this breeders adult dogs? Did they see the rest of the litter, did they interact with the pups before purchasing their puppy? Sadly it sounds like your friend is in for some hard yards ahead to get this pup socialised. Tough for both your friend and the pup. So very sad. Siberians should be social creatures - they can be reserved yes, but never frightened. Our 6 week old pups experienced a new environment and new people on the weekend and took it all in their stride - acting like the kings and queens of the world that they are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 (edited) How is this person attempting to catch the puppy? If its chase and grab then she's making the problem worse. I'd be sitting down in the backyard with a book and a container of treats and tossing one at the pup from a distance. Work on letting the pup do the approaching and toss treats for any closure of distance. Your friend needs to demonstrate that he/she is not a threat and brings good things. Trust can be built from there. Its early days - no need to give up so easily. Edited October 4, 2010 by poodlefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adza Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Yes I agree, I think that's giving up too easily if that is the problem and why they want to take the pup back? dont really understand the issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthdog Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Do you think we'll ever find out how this is going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallo Posted October 6, 2010 Author Share Posted October 6, 2010 Pup's age when your friend bought it? 8 weeks what training did they do with it at first? obenience Where was it sleeping? inside before she put it out side Have they had dogs before? yes she has its nipping and biteing at people (and her baby) she took it to puppy school and they told her to get in contact with the breeder but he doesnt want to help at all, said that its not his problem. and with feeding time she waits untill the foods been put in the bowl and my friend has gone before comming over anything else i can put down let me know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussielover Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 what do they think the problem is? something neurological? From the information given, it just sounds like a very timid/fearful puppy to me. BUt obviously no-one here has seen it so we can't know for sure. Is your friend willing to get it assessed by a professional behaviourist? Where is she located, perhaps people can give some recommendations. Nippping and biting is quite normal for puppies, they must be taught this is unacceptable. Sorry now after re-reading your posts, im unsure whether the puppy is fearful or just being a typical naughty puppy- it is obviously coming close enough to nip them- is this playful or aggressive? Also when it runs away, is this in fear, or a playful "catch me if you can" type thing? i think she needs professional help as soon as possible, the pup is not going to improve being left out the backyard by itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I wouldn't feed the pup from a bowl for a while - start with tossing the food and make the pup come closer to get the food, then only from the owner's hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moi Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 (edited) Huskies are very smart dogs, even from young puppies and some huskies are far more challenging than others!. I might be wrong but this pup sounds like it has no respect for it's owners and has already assumed top dog status. I had a husky that was the same (not timid though). The huskies owner needs to show the pup who is boss (in a loving but firm way) and always be one step ahead of what the pup is thinking. She can NEVER let the pup get away with anything, dogs like this should NEVER be smacked either because they will retaliate with a bite. I used the bark busters method on my husky and she was never allowed on the lounge or my bed, or anywhere that she would get the idea that she was ahead of me in the pack. Huskies also need to be included in everyday family life and they do not do well as purely outside dogs, they need to have a balance of both indoors and outdoors. They are very much a pack animal and the human family is their pack. Unfortunately your friend has just stepped into the high maintenance world of the siberian husky and this is why so many huskies end up in rescue. Did she thoroughly research the breed before buying?, so she was aware that they are very different to normal dogs?. Edited October 6, 2010 by Seraphina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussielover Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Huskies are very smart dogs, even from young puppies and some huskies are far more challenging than others!. I might be wrong but this pup sounds like it has no respect for it's owners and has already assumed top dog status. I had a husky that was the same (not timid though). The huskies owner needs to show the pup who is boss (in a loving but firm way) and always be one step ahead of what the pup is thinking. She can NEVER let the pup get away with anything, dogs like this should NEVER be smacked either because they will retaliate with a bite. I used the bark busters method on my husky and she was never allowed on the lounge or my bed, or anywhere that she would get the idea that she was ahead of me in the pack. Unfortunately your friend has just stepped into the high maintenance world of the siberian husky and this is why so many huskies end up in rescue. Did she thoroughly research the breed before buying?, so she was aware that they are very different to normal dogs?. I hardly think that is going to be a problem as the puppy is already relegated to the backyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moi Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I hardly think that is going to be a problem as the puppy is already relegated to the backyard Didn't see your post when I was editing - I also said they don't do well as outdoor dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallo Posted October 6, 2010 Author Share Posted October 6, 2010 to me it seems fearfull as it cowers when you do get near it and its aggressive bitein from the sounds of it its not acting top dog cause if it was it would come close you walk out the back and it runs to the back fence and im sure if she could get help that she would happly take it as she doesnt want to get rid of the dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moi Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 to me it seems fearfull as it cowers when you do get near it and its aggressive bitein from the sounds of it its not acting top dog cause if it was it would come close you walk out the back and it runs to the back fence and im sure if she could get help that she would happly take it as she doesnt want to get rid of the dog Sorry, it is very hard to tell from your previous posts what is actually going on with the pup. She needs to get a professional dog trainer in to help her. She also needs to make that pup very much part of her family inside and outside of the house, or she may as well give it away now. Keeping it solely in the backyard is cruel for a husky (or any puppy for that matter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallo Posted October 6, 2010 Author Share Posted October 6, 2010 its not just stuck in the back yard she does let it in side and takes it for walks when she can catch it but i will be passing on all the information that i got from here thank you all very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussielover Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Where does she live? perhaps we can recommend someone who might be able to come and better asses the situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W Sibs Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 this pup and your friend needs a trainer/behaviourist to come out... this pup sounds very timid and shy, and you're friend isn't helping it by chasing it and all that. my old girl husky was very fearful and skittish when we got her, and it takes a lot of time and patience to get her to trust me to even pat her. it was months after we got her before she let me touch her and about 2 years after that before i can wrap my arms around her. this is with a lot of work and patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallo Posted October 6, 2010 Author Share Posted October 6, 2010 she lives in melton victoria 3337 if we could get someone to come out and have a look i think she would be over the moon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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