Anyone Interested

[Nekhbet]

No I do have a career, lol. Okay so you've explained that dogs don't tear rabbits apart....don't know the story on that one but I'll take your word for it. What I do know is that dogs are in fact often used to tear other animals apart as part of a hunting expedition (namely pigs amongst other animals).

wow so something you have never seen in the flesh you choose to make a judgement on. Awesome. Hunting dogs do not tear up their quarry at all. Dogs hold pigs they dont tear them up. Also deer dogs bail them and hold them in place by surrounding them NOT by actually touching them. Rabbits are caught by dogs and held with soft mouths to be brought back in one piece and not a scratch on them.

I choose not to keep company with women that are rough around the edges as that is the way that I potray women that are into hunting.

well that's just your opinion and just quietly, you sound like an absolute snob. Once again seemingly unfounded on enough personal experience. I cook, I clean, I bake, I garden, I sew and I hunt. It's about basic skills and doing things for yourself instead of going out and buying cheap imported junk, or highly processed rubbish that passes for food these days. As for 'rough around the edges' myself and my partner are both tertiary educated, well spoken and mannered. More fool you when you choose to pass judgement on a person because of their hobbies. I don't want a massive flat screen, designer clothing, holidays to 5 star cookie cutter hotels and a bathroom full of makeup, then spend my spare time sipping chardonnay with the 'girls' and watch stupid romance movies. There's a whole world out there, beyond your own backyard. Nature is fascinating. Try it sometime, you may be surprised

[Kirislin]

Nekhbet I really admire your self sufficiency.

Edited October 8, 2010 by Kirislin

[aussielover]

I'd much rather people understand where their meat is coming from than think that it comes shrink wrapped from the supermarket.

Nekhbet - get back in the kitchen and bake some scones...

Megan....guess what? people don't need to be directly involved in the slaughtering of animals to realise that the meat they purchase from the supermarket was, once upon a time, walking and breathing.

Now, where are those scones?

You should visit an abbatoir Moselle.

You might just come to realise that supermarket meat is no more or less humane than hunted, wild meat.

Personally i am vego because i don't agree with the way that a lot of farm animals are raised and then handled at slaughter.

If i were to have my own farm or hunt for my own food, then I would probably be willing to eat meat in that situation

EAT: Nekhbet it sounds like a really interesting experience.

Edited October 8, 2010 by aussielover

[megan_]

aussielover - supermarket meat is far less humane, especially in places like the US.

[Kirislin]

Gee, Moselle best not look in this graphic thread showing a whippet on a kill then.

http://www.dolforums.com.au/index.php?show...l=kill&st=0

[aussielover]

Yes i agree Megan.

[ravenau1]

Nekhbet I really admire your self sufficiency.

Absolutely, me too.

I remember having a big family dinner one day at my OH's Grandparent's place in the US. I think the only thing on the table that was not provided by the family themselves were the dairy and dessert items. Everything else, the meat, the veggies etc had been either grown or hunted by someone in the family.

A pretty good way to live if you ask me.

I can't kill things, not even bugs (though my Uncle-In-Law assured me that if I was hungry enough, I'd be able to lol) but I've been involved in the hunting and then the 'processing' (for want of a better word) of animals after someone else has killed them (rabbits and deer mostly) and it has given me a real appreciation for animals that provide our food and it's very much affected where and what meat I purchase for my own table. Much more than if my only experience with meat had been a clean, wrapped steak from Coles.

Anyway, for whoever ends up going with Nekhbet, have fun and enjoy those bunnies!

eta: left out "dinner"

Edited October 8, 2010 by ravenau1

[Dust Angel]

The idea of using poisons to kill fox is totally apalling to me! As so far as pig hunting is concerned.....well, I have seen videos and photos of a group of dogs latching onto any part of the pig that they could hold onto whilst the pig is in atrocious pain.....no need for that.....how I would so love it if it were possible for those people responsible for such to come back as a pig....I would be making sure that their crown jewel was being grabbed and masticated upon!

Ahh so a freshly dispatched quick kill is disgraceful but pigs that live their whole lives in appalling conditions without even room to move is perfectly acceptable as long as it comes to you in a shrink wrapped package?

You have obviously never lived in a rural area. The majority of women i know will kill their own meat, butcher it and then cook it when they need too. But i bet if you met them one on one you would never know it. I guess you would be downright horrified if you found out you were talking to one of these women you portray to be rough around the edges because they are self sufficient.

It must be nice to purchase your meat from the supermarket and rate yourself above those that shock horror hunt for their meat. Your right, on the one hand you have feedlot animals that spend their life in miserable, cramped conditions then are shipped off to slaughter houses in over crowded transport, many of whom suffer horrific injuries whilst they panic at the smell of death and fear in the air all so you can receive a lovely shrink wrapped product in the supermarket. Yup they have it way better to the animal that lives free in their natural environment and is dispatched quickly, efficiently and humanely.

Nekhbet id love to come with you but i work through the week. There are plenty of farmers around here though that would LOVE for you to come ferreting though if you ever hanker for a trip to the Snowy Mountains.

[aussielover]

The idea of using poisons to kill fox is totally apalling to me! As so far as pig hunting is concerned.....well, I have seen videos and photos of a group of dogs latching onto any part of the pig that they could hold onto whilst the pig is in atrocious pain.....no need for that.....how I would so love it if it were possible for those people responsible for such to come back as a pig....I would be making sure that their crown jewel was being grabbed and masticated upon!

Ahh so a freshly dispatched quick kill is disgraceful but pigs that live their whole lives in appalling conditions without even room to move is perfectly acceptable as long as it comes to you in a shrink wrapped package?

You have obviously never lived in a rural area. The majority of women i know will kill their own meat, butcher it and then cook it when they need too. But i bet if you met them one on one you would never know it. I guess you would be downright horrified if you found out you were talking to one of these women you portray to be rough around the edges because they are self sufficient.

It must be nice to purchase your meat from the supermarket and rate yourself above those that shock horror hunt for their meat. Your right, on the one hand you have feedlot animals that spend their life in miserable, cramped conditions then are shipped off to slaughter houses in over crowded transport, many of whom suffer horrific injuries whilst they panic at the smell of death and fear in the air all so you can receive a lovely shrink wrapped product in the supermarket. Yup they have it way better to the animal that lives free in their natural environment and is dispatched quickly, efficiently and humanely.

Nekhbet id love to come with you but i work through the week. There are plenty of farmers around here though that would LOVE for you to come ferreting though if you ever hanker for a trip to the Snowy Mountains.

+1

intensively farmed animals suffer every day of their usually short lives. Wild animals might suffer a moment of pain, upon death, who knows really, most hunters are pretty skilled at quickly and humanely killing them.

Rabbits, as cute as they are, are pests that need to be eradicated or else they get out of control. What, more humane method do you propose to get rid of them Moselle?

And frankly your statements about women are outdated at best and offensive at worst.

[Moselle]

The idea of using poisons to kill fox is totally apalling to me! As so far as pig hunting is concerned.....well, I have seen videos and photos of a group of dogs latching onto any part of the pig that they could hold onto whilst the pig is in atrocious pain.....no need for that.....how I would so love it if it were possible for those people responsible for such to come back as a pig....I would be making sure that their crown jewel was being grabbed and masticated upon!

Ahh so a freshly dispatched quick kill is disgraceful but pigs that live their whole lives in appalling conditions without even room to move is perfectly acceptable as long as it comes to you in a shrink wrapped package?

You have obviously never lived in a rural area. The majority of women i know will kill their own meat, butcher it and then cook it when they need too. But i bet if you met them one on one you would never know it. I guess you would be downright horrified if you found out you were talking to one of these women you portray to be rough around the edges because they are self sufficient.

It must be nice to purchase your meat from the supermarket and rate yourself above those that shock horror hunt for their meat. Your right, on the one hand you have feedlot animals that spend their life in miserable, cramped conditions then are shipped off to slaughter houses in over crowded transport, many of whom suffer horrific injuries whilst they panic at the smell of death and fear in the air all so you can receive a lovely shrink wrapped product in the supermarket. Yup they have it way better to the animal that lives free in their natural environment and is dispatched quickly, efficiently and humanely.

Nekhbet id love to come with you but i work through the week. There are plenty of farmers around here though that would LOVE for you to come ferreting though if you ever hanker for a trip to the Snowy Mountains.

+1

intensively farmed animals suffer every day of their usually short lives. Wild animals might suffer a moment of pain, upon death, who knows really, most hunters are pretty skilled at quickly and humanely killing them.

Rabbits, as cute as they are, are pests that need to be eradicated or else they get out of control. What, more humane method do you propose to get rid of them Moselle?

And frankly your statements about women are outdated at best and offensive at worst.

I certainly am not out to offend anyone and the ONLY comment I made about women is in relation to those that have a pencheant for hunting. Sorry but I cannot help feeling this way, it's just one of those things. I actually do live in a rural situation but I do commute to Melbourne a few times a week and my friends are based in melbourne. I don't really socialise with people locally and made a conscious decision to keep to myself, that has nothing to do with this discussion though. I haven't stumbled upon a woman that does do her own killing and it never actually dawned on me but I guess I will make a point of finding out. I did once have a "friend" for a short duration of time until I found out that she did kill her own meat namely her "pet" ducks and I wasn't impressed, needless to say the friendship was ended rather swiftly once she made the mistake of telling me.

[Earthdog]

So you wouldn't count a butcher among your friends?

[Moselle]

So you wouldn't count a butcher among your friends?

I would assume that the butcher would have to be male? and I would hope that he makes it his priority to kill (if he kills ?) as humanely as is possible ???

I do have issues with trophy hunters who really do have an attitude and think they're all "that" when they are NOT and women hunting.....that is all.

[poodlefan]

I did once have a "friend" for a short duration of time until I found out that she did kill her own meat namely her "pet" ducks and I wasn't impressed, needless to say the friendship was ended rather swiftly once she made the mistake of telling me.

God forbid we should actually cause the deaths of the animals we eat.

Perhaps if more folk killed their own, there'd by less abuse of animals in intensive farming situations.

The more people connnect with the animals they farm, the less likely they are to abuse them IMO.

Last century thousands of suburban Australian mums kept and killed chooks for the table. Frankly I fail to see the issue with it.

[asal]

I did once have a "friend" for a short duration of time until I found out that she did kill her own meat namely her "pet" ducks and I wasn't impressed, needless to say the friendship was ended rather swiftly once she made the mistake of telling me.

God forbid we should actually cause the deaths of the animals we eat.

Perhaps if more folk killed their own, there'd by less abuse of animals in intensive farming situations.

The more people connnect with the animals they farm, the less likely they are to abuse them IMO.

Last century thousands of suburban Australian mums kept and killed chooks for the table. Frankly I fail to see the issue with it.

LOL

poor mozelle wouldnt cope with our back neighbour. every few weeks there would be a row of chooks feet slipped between the palings of our common fence.

first time i spotted them was wondering? what the?

that is till i looked over the fence. all hanging neatly. throats cut n waiting to be plucked n gutted... nice.

never done one myself, i makes pets of em, n anyway hubby may love eggs, but chooks???? theys foul food u know...

[mirawee]

haylzz if you know any properties with rabbits I'm happy to come up there and ferret. Provision is that no one has used pindone/1080 in the last 6 months otherwise I WONT be happy if one of my ferrets is poisoned.

Want to come to WA??? We have plague proportion rabbits at our place atm Big fat ones too Am about to move horses to a new paddock but will have to spend a couple of hours walking it find and fill in bunny holes first!

[poodlefan]

haylzz if you know any properties with rabbits I'm happy to come up there and ferret. Provision is that no one has used pindone/1080 in the last 6 months otherwise I WONT be happy if one of my ferrets is poisoned.

Want to come to WA??? We have plague proportion rabbits at our place atm Big fat ones too Am about to move horses to a new paddock but will have to spend a couple of hours walking it find and fill in bunny holes first!

Did someone say big fat rabbits?

Edited October 8, 2010 by poodlefan

[SkySoaringMagpie]

Outta the way Howie

Those fat rabbits are mine!!!

[Black Dog in WA]

Want to come to WA??? We have plague proportion rabbits at our place atm :D Big fat ones too ;) Am about to move horses to a new paddock but will have to spend a couple of hours walking it find and fill in bunny holes first!

Mirawee- where abouts are you, may be able to help with the rabbits if you like depending on where you are. Ferreting most days just not in that area

Edited October 8, 2010 by Black Dog in WA

[asal]

Outta the way Howie ;)

Those fat rabbits are mine!!!

totally awesome :D

[asal]

haylzz if you know any properties with rabbits I'm happy to come up there and ferret. Provision is that no one has used pindone/1080 in the last 6 months otherwise I WONT be happy if one of my ferrets is poisoned.

Want to come to WA??? We have plague proportion rabbits at our place atm :D Big fat ones too ;) Am about to move horses to a new paddock but will have to spend a couple of hours walking it find and fill in bunny holes first!

Did someone say big fat rabbits?

lol a totally adorable... see i saw those whiskers twitching.... i did