~Shepherd~ Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 Oh god I am so sorry this has happened. I too would be beside myself not knowing, but knowing. Sending as much strength as I can to you all for the coming days. I dont know how you are going to fill your time. Keep focusing on your kids and try not to get too emotional in front of them. I dont know how I would manage What an awful situation. So sorry :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ons Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 oh my gosh you poor thing i hope that everything goes okay with your beloved dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisart Dobes Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 So sorry to read your post. Sending all the healing thoughts we can for your kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janba Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 Years ago I had a dally who I didn't know had gotten into rat bait until she started bleeding from the gums. She was given the vitamin K injection and on tablets for several weeks and pulled through. I have no idea where she got the bait from but we did have a rat plague at the time. Fingers crossed for your dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swizzlestick Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 Fingers crossed that they will both be fine.When was the earliest possible time they ate it? Sometime between 6am and 4pm on Monday. It was 11am today before we realised what had happend. I can understand how terrified and worried you are right now. Going on past experience (vet nurse) I'd say they'll be fine. You've caught it before symptoms have developed, and they're now both on Vitamin K. Sure they'll make a full recovery. Good on you for seeking treatment for them. We have alot of owners who assume no harm has been done after eating it, as they don't realise how rat bait works and don't see any signs. It's often not until the dog comes in collapsed and as pale as a ghost that the owners realise what is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCresties Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 omg how absolutely awful for you all I really, really hope the Vit K works on your babies like the others mentioned here - have everything crossed for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunnwarren Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 Keeping my fingers crossed for a good result, don't know what else to say except that I'm feeling for you both at this stressful time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilli_star Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 How absolutely devastating for you and your family. I really hope, that like the dogs mentioned on here, the Vitamin K does its thing and your beautiful doglets continue to be very special, loving members of your family for a long time yet. Big hugs for what is going to be a very tough couple of weeks for you and your family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 for you and your OH. I will add my healing thoughts to the collective D O L thoughts! By all means spoil your guys, but please keep them safe and quiet- no bumps/bites/knocks from playing etc . I am also hoping the heavy vit.K load they are getting will halt any internal bleeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugUrPup Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 Praying for a miracle *hugs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanabanana Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 That is awful - you poor thing! I refuse to have rat bait in my house (we caught all our mice in a bucket with water) in case my dogs got it. The OH did buy some and put it out, and I went round and collected it up and the bait is hidden on top of the kitchen cupboards (not in them) wrapped in about 5 plastic bags because I am paranoid it might somehow get in the cupboard ) I am sending get wel wishes hard and fast to your dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbesotted Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 two of my guys were in the same predicament... Vit K saved their lives...cant remember now hopw long they were on it for but it was quite some time.. Sending positive thoughts and healing energy your way H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebastion 2 Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 Big hugs foy you and yours sending healing vibes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry's Mum Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 You poor thing as though you did not have enough on your plate. Paws crossed that they will both be alright and get through this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.mister Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 Oh no Fingers crossed that your babies pull through, from other's experiences it sounds hopeful. Sending you lots of miracle vibes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddy Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 It must be heartbreaking to know that your pets are going to die but on the bright side (even if it's not much help right now), you at least have a chance to really spend some time with them before they go and I'd be trying to focus on staying happy for them, even if it's really hard to be positive when you have a diagnosis as terrible as that. I'm not really all that good with sympathetic stuff so.. <-- That. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her Majesty Dogmad Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 My dog was deliberately given rat poison by a neighbour when I was at work one Friday. He seemed off colour that night and didn't eat. Next morning the same and vomited some brown stuff that smelt like poo so we went to the vet. Diagnosed as a stomach virus and given an antibiotic injection. Brought him home and he begain to vomit copious amounts of blood so I rushed him to an emergency vet (a Sat afternoon) and he was put on a drip for 2 days. They discharged him on the Monday with pneumonia - I was horrified but they said take him to your own vet. I didn't know where to go as I'd only just moved to the area. Luckily, a vet rang ahead and made an apointment for me at the Vet Specialist Centre. He was admitted and kept in there for 2 weeks, on a drip and Vitamin K. He was released and wasn't 100% but was on Vitamin K for 2 months. He was an amazing dog who'd come to me after surviving terrible cruelty. I felt hopeless that I hadn't been able to protect him against such malice. He was a fragile Italian Greyhound and he survived, it was a miracle. I really hope that your dogs will be OK, they may not have had much at all, keep the Vit. K going and get a second opinion from a specialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julzjc Posted September 30, 2010 Author Share Posted September 30, 2010 I'm not sure how much they ate? But we treat with vitamin K for 6-8 weeks and have never lost any dogs that get onto the treatment in time. Dogs generally have 2 days of Vitamin K stores, so by rights you would have lost your dogs by now if you were going to. Did they take some blood and do an activated clotting time? Is there already evidence of blood loss in your dogs i.e. pale gums or bruising? Unless it's some sort of new bait that I don't know about, if they are on the correct Vitamin K dosage they should be perfectly normal in 10 days but you need to keep treating for 6 weeks at least. He said he will treat them for 6weeks. Its a slow release rat bait that takes 4-7days to work on a rat assuming they have eaten 4grams. The dogs ate between 20-40g. I am praying so hard that they do pull through this one. He said he didnt think the blood test would help as even if it came back negitive today, it may be positive tomorrow with the slow acting poision? He would treat both of them regardless with Vit K. I really hope your right and the Vit K stops this. praying your right. Indies gums are a bit pale and Bonnie eyes are pretty bloodshot but sure its from pulling on her collar at the vet. Indie, Im not sure, maybe his gums were always this pale? Not grey or white but nowhere near as rosie red as Bonnies. Bonnie has been eating grass all day long, she wanted out at 4.30am this morning just to go and eat grass and has been really quiet. Indie must have taken it down(not something Bonnie wouild do) but if she has seen him with it, she would have stood over him for it. I just want to say thankyou so much to the DOL community. Im on my own tonight. My OHs 75yr old grandmother fell down a flight of concrete stairs today aswell and fractured her spine so OH is away to spend the night with his grandfather. Thankyou for giving me a (virtual) shoulder to cry on, its means alot. By no means is my mind at ease but all your positive stories have giving me so much more hope, thankyou so much everyone. Julzjc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her Majesty Dogmad Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 Hugs to you, what a terrible situation to be in and while you have other worries. Really hope things start going upwards from here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lappiemum Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 I know its hard, but be positive. The good news is that many dogs have survived this - as you have seen here on this thread - so don't let yourself get too upset or your OH feel guilty about it. And throw out the poisons! You will never miss them!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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