Jaxx'sBuddy Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 i have been thinking of this and was wondering if there were any natural remedies that might assist. i have done a bit of a search and found the following: -activated charcol can help reduce the effects of poisoning -maybe something to boost the liver function to process the poison more quickly -maybe a general vitamin before giving anything though maybe call the vet and see if there is anything else you can give the dog to help reduce the effects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KumaAkita Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 Oh... honey... fingers and toes crossed for a good outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosmum Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 (edited) i have been thinking of this and was wondering if there were any natural remedies that might assist.i have done a bit of a search and found the following: -activated charcol can help reduce the effects of poisoning -maybe something to boost the liver function to process the poison more quickly -maybe a general vitamin before giving anything though maybe call the vet and see if there is anything else you can give the dog to help reduce the effects? I would be very cautious about giving activated charcoal in this situation.It works by absorbing gases,chemicals etc in the gut.It can also absorb many nutients and medication so may absorb all the vitamin k being given.It can be a very usefull treatment for poisoning and other conditions,but as the poison would have been consumed many days ago I think its far too late for that and may do more harm than good. Sorry to throw a damper on advise when you are so desperatly searching for an thing to help. The time for charcoal would have been while the poison was still in the gut,not the blood stream. My thoughts are with you and I also hope for the best out come. ;) Edited October 1, 2010 by moosmum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indigirl Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 oh god. I was minding Reg, a friends elderly golden retriever earlier this year an unbeknown to us he had eaten rat bait at her house before coming here. Its a terrible thing. Please brace yourself for whats coming. It almost defies description. I dont want to sound ghoulish but the blood loss in unbelievable, i would send your kids to relatives until the dogs have either died or recovered. Its a very traumatic thing to witness. My carpets, walls, lounge were covered in blood. Ive had to buy rugs to cover the bloodstained carpet. Ive never seen so much blood come from a living creature. After the bleeding finally stopped we nursed him for around a week, around the clock. But he was still bleeding internally and despite several blood transfusions he died. I posted bout Reg as it was happening, many will prolly remember. I felt so helpless and so overwhelmed with sadness. He wasnt my dog but i loved him and often cared for him. I was devastated at the way he died. I am crying now jsut thinking about that terrible week. Please dont blame yourself. Accidents happen in the best of homes.Understand too that your lives will be completly consumed by their bleeding once it starts. There will be no time for kids, work, sleep, anything. Myself and his owner barely slept in a week, she was unable to work as she couldnt leave him and she slept beside him on the floor and i would go around before and after work and care for him so she could get a few hrs sleep. The vet bill was over $1500 and we still lost him. I dont think Reg was in pain, thugh he was uncomfortable and very weak. He couldnt walk after the first few days and had to be carried outside and held up to toilet. I wish you strength for the coming week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash&elar Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 OMG!!! How terribley heart breaking, Im also hoping with everything in me that somehow they both pull through. Im so sorry for you and your family and your beloved dogs that you have to go through this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullyfan Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 My thoughts are with you, how horrible. BUT it does sound as if you got it in time (Fingers crossed) I didn't realise you could save a dog from poisoning, I honestly thought they were finished (as I didn't know about the treatment), but it's amazing to think with the right treatment , at the right time, you have every possiblity of having them both pull through. I'm sending heaps of positive vibes your way, you've done the right things at the right times so It's going to be ok. Thanks for posting it too, I wouldn't have know that there were options if I didn't read it. Also get all the baits out of your house, it's not worth the risk. (Although I think you would have already!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormie Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 I'm sorry this has happened to you. But if the correct type of bait was known and the dogs are on the right dose of Vit K, there's no real reason to suggest either will die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mas1981 Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 After reading all these stories I will never keep bait in my house/garage, the risk is just to great, lucky I have cats so any rat problem we had would be taken of by them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridie Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 i have been thinking of this and was wondering if there were any natural remedies that might assist.i have done a bit of a search and found the following: -activated charcol can help reduce the effects of poisoning -maybe something to boost the liver function to process the poison more quickly -maybe a general vitamin before giving anything though maybe call the vet and see if there is anything else you can give the dog to help reduce the effects? My thoughts too...what else can be done,Charcoal is used to absorb but within 2 hours & no later than 12 hours. I'm sure we have all had a cry over this thread,whilst there is life there is hope,36-48 hours appear to be the critical periods,so keep pulling for them. That's it for me,back to horrible mouse traps.I've been afraid mine might try & eat the mouse after. No more Rat Sack,not ever.....rather put up with mice than all this worry you are going through.....I'm sure many others have taken this same discision today. So Julz you are not alone we are all with you All that have read this will think & pray for your two all day long,tomorrow and the next week for how ever long it takes. Please try & stay positive,they will feel your sadness & there are many positive out comes from others that have been in your shoes so be optimistic for each day....each hour at a time to get through this terrifying time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pebbles Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 A neighbours small dog had eaten half a packet of rat sack. Neighbour didn't realise that this would poison the dog, she came in one morning worried that the dog was bleeding from the rear end, the mouth and nose. We took it to the Vet. Vitamin K injection and tablets to continue with. The little fellow was very sick for a while but is now running around his usual self so there is every chance your guys will be ok. Think positive and sending them healing vibes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal House Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 Hugs for you, I'm hoping your dogs both pull through like the many others on here. A timely reminder in a morbid kind of way NOT to have any rat bait or snail killer around. I don't understand the need for poisons, I think its cruel to poison rats/mice anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexiam Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 Thinking of you all I hope and pray they will be OK Try to stay positive....I know easier said then done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormie Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 Activated Charcoal needs to be given at the time - it works by absorbing the poisons in the stomach and intestines. There won't be any of the bait still in the stomach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunnyflower Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 I am so sorry to hear this! My fingers and toes are crossed for your dogs and the family.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvale Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 I too have a survival story to share - with a 8week old Chihuahua. I had her at work for an hour as I was leaving straight from work to go on Xmas holidays (wonderful boss here!) We had put baits in the roof cavities as we had a plague of mice & rats some time beforehand. My Chi puppy was playing for ages underneath our photocopy cabinet and I can only assume that the rodents had dragged some bait under there because what happened over the next 48 hours was heartbreaking! In the morning she was very quiet, but still ate some breakfast (just figured she was overexcited & tired from previous day's activities). Left her at home with other dogs to go to family lunch. Came home found her laying on cold laundry tiles - very lethargic & immediately called her breeder. Was told that it was possibly "sugar drop" (very plausible in small breed) and was advised on how to get her up and running again - which all worked perfectly! Go to bed, wake up in morning to near lifeless puppy in her basket. Straight to car for 45min drive to the vet (bawling all the way!) Jan Spade (Miracle Worker) took one look at her, thought she was a goner, and proceeded to treat her with vitamin K and fluids. Three days of home nursing, Vit K needles, heat pads, glucose and piles of gentle cuddles and we finally had a puppy that looked like she was going to pull through. When we went back to Jan, she told us that she really thought she would not make it as she was so tiny and there was no way of knowing how much poison she had eaten. I am forever indebted to that woman! Six years on and this lovely Chi girl has given me two beautiful litters and is the absolute apple of my eye. Please don't lose hope - she was tiny, her treatment was based on guesswork - you got to your furkids and your vet armed with all of the information and time that allows you the best chance of recovery! Thoughts & prayers are with you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leithy Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 *healing vibes for both of your dogs* *hugs for you and your family* Many prayers coming your way!! How are they atm ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bow Wow Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 My prayers are with you and your puppies. I am praying that they will have a good outcome like many of the positive stories here. You must be going through a living hell :( :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhou Xuanyao Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 Try not to panic. My mothers dog ate a whole heap of rat pellets once aswell. She took him to the vet, ect he was fine. He said he will treat them for 6weeks. Its a slow release rat bait that takes 4-7days to work on a rat assuming they have eaten 4grams. The dogs ate between 20-40g. And your dogs look to be between 25 - 30kg. What does your average rat weigh ? Probably 1/2 kg. Plus your dogs have had these injections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirislin Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 What an awful black cloud hanging over them. From what others have said though there's a chance they will be alright. I hope so. Sending positive thoughts to you and them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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