Cops Shoot Pit-bull In Dog Attack

[lillypilly]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/cops...9-1225931851352

Cops Shoot Pit-bull In Dog Attack

POLICE have been forced to shoot a dog after it attacked a woman and a man at a home in Sydney’s west.

About 2.40pm, police received reports of a woman aged in her 40’s being attacked by a pit-bull in the backyard of a house on Buckland Road, St Clair.

The dog also attacked a male at the house, believed to be aged in his 40’s. Police arrived and the dog was aggressive toward them. It was sprayed with OC spray and tasered, and then ran away.

The dog returned a short time later. It was aggressive toward a male Constable, and was sprayed again. The dog was then shot by the Constable as it tried to attack him.

The dog died at the scene.

The man and woman have been taken to Nepean Hospital for treatment to serious lacerations and shock.

Investigations are continuing and it is believed the female involved was the owner of the pit-bull involved.

While there were other dogs at the home, only one dog was responsible for the injuries to the victims.

Edited September 29, 2010 by lillypilly

[Everythings Shiny]

That is terribly scary. Even though it attacked the people, I hope the bullet killed it quickly

[Remarkabull]

Not good.

I have to wonder about dogs that 'attack' their owners (or maybe more precicely what the owners have done to the dogs). I can't imagine my own dogs doing it to me. Even if I was doing something to hurt or provoke them I wouldn't expect more than a warning growl or snap (and I it would take ALOT to even get that), certainly not a mauling.

[poodlefan]

I"d love to have more background on this one.

[Alison1474]

I"d love to have more background on this one.

I agree !!!!

Also be interested to know if it was a pitty... or is the breed getting blamed incorrectly again

[lillypilly]

I"d love to have more background on this one.

I agree !!!!

Also be interested to know if it was a pitty... or is the breed getting blamed incorrectly again

When the ambo's were called it was to treat this couple in their front yard as they had been attacked by a large straying dog.

Now the story hits the media and the dog is deemed a pitty. I too wonder if again the breed is incorrectly being blamed.

http://www.penrithstar.com.au/news/local/n...al/1955542.aspx

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/09...?section=justin

edited to add Penrith Star and ABC reports

Edited September 29, 2010 by lillypilly

[CJay]

I have to wonder about dogs that 'attack' their owners (or maybe more precicely what the owners have done to the dogs). I can't imagine my own dogs doing it to me. Even if I was doing something to hurt or provoke them I wouldn't expect more than a warning growl or snap (and I it would take ALOT to even get that), certainly not a mauling.

My dogs are the same, i trust them with my life

There's got to be more to it, but once again the media and po-po will twist and contort the story to suit themselves

[poodlefan]

Not good.

I have to wonder about dogs that 'attack' their owners (or maybe more precicely what the owners have done to the dogs). I can't imagine my own dogs doing it to me. Even if I was doing something to hurt or provoke them I wouldn't expect more than a warning growl or snap (and I it would take ALOT to even get that), certainly not a mauling.

You're assuming that such dogs have a social bond with their owners - some do not. Keep a dog on a chain, fail to socialise and train it and the dog simply regards you as a food source not 'pack'

Dogs that haven't had boundaries put on them and that have the right potential temperament can attack when thwarted.

The few facts available don't lend themselves to any analysis of this attack I'm afraid.

[Remarkabull]

Not good.

I have to wonder about dogs that 'attack' their owners (or maybe more precicely what the owners have done to the dogs). I can't imagine my own dogs doing it to me. Even if I was doing something to hurt or provoke them I wouldn't expect more than a warning growl or snap (and I it would take ALOT to even get that), certainly not a mauling.

You're assuming that such dogs have a social bond with their owners - some do not. Keep a dog on a chain, fail to socialise and train it and the dog simply regards you as a food source not 'pack'

Dogs that haven't had boundaries put on them and that have the right potential temperament can attack when thwarted.

The few facts available don't lend themselves to any analysis of this attack I'm afraid.

True PF.

I was assuming that the dog in question was a family pet that was treated like my dogs are. Obviously a dog that attacks it's 'owner' in such a manner would probably not be a valued part of the family nor would it have received any real training or socialising. Either that or the dog has an illness that affects it's brain function and it just 'snapped'. (Happened to some people I knew, their 9 yr old Dobe attacked their son for no reason and was PTS. Vet did autopsy because dog had never been aggressive before and found dog had something wrong in the brain. Can't remember what, was long time ago)

[bulldogz4eva]

It doesnt matter if it was or wasnt a pitbull it isnt going to change people mind one way or the other.All I can say and I know I sound like a broken record.In 20 years of owning them I have never had one turn on me growl at me or attempt to bite me.The dog was either unstable or had something done to it.You also have to have a look at peoples motivation for owning a dog.If they want a guard dog then get a guardian breed.If you are not interesdted in putting the effort into a dog and giving it what it needs then get an alarm system.Lock a dog up in the back yard and dont spend time with it,dont socialise it dont give it any love or affection and you will reap what you sow.

ETA. Also why do they always call the police in the event of a dog attack?They are not trained animal control officers.Pepper spray a dog and taser it and what do you think will happen?It will become aggressive.I guess that then gives them a reason to use there gun.Its kinda like going to the zoo and poking a lion with a stick to see what happens..Its going to get angry and then things are going to get ugly.Its not rocket science.

Edited September 29, 2010 by bulldogz4eva

[Adza]

Interesting, I heard a completely different story on the radio and tried looking on the news for it. They said they were attacked in the street, never mentioned they were the owners of the pitbull or the full story behind it. The way the media made it sound was some random dog in the street just went "crazy".

Hopefully they recover but you'd really like to know the full story and treatment of the dog. I have friends in the neighbourhood there might try see if they know them.

[frufru]

Actually my standard poodle bit me the first time he had an epileptic seizure that I witnessed. He warned me with a growl but because I was so distraught at what I had just witnessed I disregarded his warning and attempted to touch him. He only bit once on my forearm but it was enough to puncture the skin and I, of course, needed a tetnus shot. With susequent seizures I waited for him to come to me once he had regained consciousness - I could touch him while unconscious but not always afterwards.

I also have friends whose small dog bit her quite badly when it was run over by a friends car in their driveway and the little dog was critically injured - she of course rushed over to comfort her beloved dog and he instinctively bit her (several times)

I am not trying to compare the situations but rather I am trying to say that dogs are dogs and given the right circumstances most of them will bite.

Regarding the police - if they have been called then I think they are entitled to shoot the dog if it is agressive - not sure what else they are meant to do. Pressumerabley if you call the police it is a serious situation!!!!!!!!

Edited September 29, 2010 by frufru

[Remarkabull]

It doesnt matter if it was or wasnt a pitbull it isnt going to change people mind one way or the other.All I can say and I know I sound like a broken record.In 20 years of owning them I have never had one turn on me growl at me or attempt to bite me.The dog was either unstable or had something done to it.You also have to have a look at peoples motivation for owning a dog.If they want a guard dog then get a guardian breed.If you are not interesdted in putting the effort into a dog and giving it what it needs then get an alarm system.Lock a dog up in the back yard and dont spend time with it,dont socialise it dont give it any love or affection and you will reap what you sow.

ETA. Also why do they always call the police in the event of a dog attack?They are not trained animal control officers.Pepper spray a dog and taser it and what do you think will happen?It will become aggressive.I guess that then gives them a reason to use there gun.Its kinda like going to the zoo and poking a lion with a stick to see what happens..Its going to get angry and then things are going to get ugly.Its not rocket science.

The dog was already 'angry'. It had just attacked 2 people. Better that the cops turn up and shoot it than waiting for 'trained animal control officers' and possibly giving it the chance to hurt someone else. By using the pepper spray and taser it sounds like they were trying to avoid shooting the dog and did it as a last resort? Who knows, we were not there to see.

It's not a good situation, but what would you expect people to do that are scared and pannicked?

Edited September 29, 2010 by dobesrock

[asal]

Not good.

I have to wonder about dogs that 'attack' their owners (or maybe more precicely what the owners have done to the dogs). I can't imagine my own dogs doing it to me. Even if I was doing something to hurt or provoke them I wouldn't expect more than a warning growl or snap (and I it would take ALOT to even get that), certainly not a mauling.

You're assuming that such dogs have a social bond with their owners - some do not. Keep a dog on a chain, fail to socialise and train it and the dog simply regards you as a food source not 'pack'

Dogs that haven't had boundaries put on them and that have the right potential temperament can attack when thwarted.

The few facts available don't lend themselves to any analysis of this attack I'm afraid. :cool:

exactly, we had a neighbour who never trained his dog in any way. just fed him and never said no not matter how outrageous his behaviour.

he woud jump up demanding to be patted, n if i dont because he was hurting me and told him to sit down he would snarl and snap at me. yet if i said nothing he would be tearing my clothes with his claws as he jumped all over me. i dreaded finding him in my yard n he was forever getting out and comming over. eventually he began biting his owners as well, at first it was just play biting but by the time he was 3 it was getting so he would grab his owner by the arm to make him drop his food faster until his clothes were torn and skin broken. he still made no attempt to train the dog not too.

finally he disappeared and they said they gave him awy. to my horror they said his new owner was going to use him to breed "guard" dogs?

maulers more like it i would think

he had serious attitude and lack of a definate no, just made him worse.

often wonder if i had tried could i have gained his respect but he frightned me, he really hurt when he went for u so i just took to the house and rang the neighbour when he got into my yard

i imagine if a stranger actually entered his yard no amount of spray or tazers would have made that one back off, he would have become angrier and angrier would be my guess by his behaviour when thawarted at my place. he would go from furious over the top friendly, to savage and biting in a blink of an eye

Edited September 29, 2010 by asal

[MelodysMum]

I live in St Clair, not really that far from where it happened. It was actually very close to the fenced dog park.

I will have to see if I can find out what happened. From what I saw on the TV the people were pretty badly injured. :cool:

[persephone]

Also why do they always call the police in the event of a dog attack?

probably the same reason I would - there are lots of police on the ground, and they can be there quickly! They are also armed with spray/tasers/firearms, and can quickly liase with emergency services.

My guess is that trained animal control offices are thin on the ground, and would take a long time to arrive They could possibly subdue a dog with a catchpole instead of a taser....and take it away to be put down . Actually, what do trained animal control officers do, or what jurisdiction do they have in the event of a dog attack on humans?

[Zug Zug]

I suspect that in a case like this they would probably suggest you call the police anyway.

As you say, animal control officers are thin on the ground and don't carry weapons/equipment to deal with this kind of emergency situation.

[di_dee1]

Any dog of any breed that attacks to that extent, then goes for a policeman IMO should be shot. It hopefully was quick and clean. I think it would cause more stress to the dog to be impounded then euthanased.

I hate the fact though that so many are labeled a pit bull. I have met wonderful ones.

I feel the same about dogs attacking livestock, even my own dogs. That is a very real possibility should they get out.

[rastus_froggy]

The news clip I saw it on did not mention a breed- which is pretty good, so I thought I'd pop in here to get all the details.

[Zug Zug]

Lots of breeds are capable of this kind of thing. I don't think naming the breed is all that helpful to be honest.

I was attacked by a boxer once. Bad attack - nothing pretty or hesitant about that horrible dog. He just wanted to kill me and that was that. They had to drag him off with chains.

But most boxers are lovely dogs. Sweet-natured goobers more often than not. It's the dog - not the breed.

Most journos couldn't tell a pit-bull from a typewriter anyway.