Rescue Organisations

[Greytmate]

Many rescues that scan the pounds/ pound sites for certain types of animal that may be their specialty or preference, and they will put their name on that animal to be rescued if it doesn't have direct adoption prospects straight from the pound. Who are we to cast judgement on their preference for a specific type, age, breed of animal to rescue? It's their choice to do rescue, but that doesn't mean that they have to take everything that is available when it's time is up - they know what they can cope with, and they make their choices based on that (and a few other things besides).

Here's my issue, the dogs best interest is to be re-homed to a good family, not to be taken by a rescue group when they could very well go straight to their new home, to then be fostered and the group then choose who can and can't have the dog based on stupid things like wearing PJ's in the afternoon.

Dogs best interest remember? If the dog is likely to be placed straight from the pound, then leave it there, don't take it, foster it, raise the price of it and confuse it more.

There is a reason breed specific organisations will get these dogs from the pound and I don't believe it's all in the best interest of the dog.

Sorry, but I disagree with what you think is in the dog's best interest. Having dogs go through a foster program increases their adoptability. They are more likely to remain permanently with the people that adopt them.

[poodlefan]

Puggerup:

Dogs best interest remember? If the dog is likely to be placed straight from the pound, then leave it there, don't take it, foster it, raise the price of it and confuse it more.

There is a reason breed specific organisations will get these dogs from the pound and I don't believe it's all in the best interest of the dog.

Really? Why do you think they do it then?

I have difficulty with novice dog owners taking a dog from the pound. Most of them have no idea what they might be taking on.

I'd far prefer an experienced breed rescue to take on dogs, evaluate them, retrain if necessary AND rehome them to suitable families.

It sure beats the revolving door situation that sees some dogs surrendered to be rehomed again.

ETA: The idea of a Whippet being released to be an outside only dog here in Canberra makes me shudder. Its simply too damn cold.

Edited September 28, 2010 by poodlefan

[HugUrPup]

People are always being told, if you want a dog get a rescue or a puppy from a reputable breeder. There are so many dogs that need re-homing but it seems the type of dog people want that WOULD suit them best and NOT be in a revolving door situation, are the ones that are too hard to get.

It's frustrating and sad to see potentially excellent dog owners resorting to a BYB or a puppy shop because it's so difficult to get a rescue.

[poodlefan]

People are always being told, if you want a dog get a rescue or a puppy from a reputable breeder. There are so many dogs that need re-homing but it seems the type of dog people want that WOULD suit them best and NOT be in a revolving door situation, are the ones that are too hard to get.

It's frustrating and sad to see potentially excellent dog owners resorting to a BYB or a puppy shop because it's so difficult to get a rescue.

Actually I advise responsible rescue (not pound) or responsible breeder.

I think rescues need to make it plain why they are refusing a home. It might shatter a few myths about rescues being "picky" or "difficult".

I don't doubt some are but I also think some folk want dogs that simply aren't suitable for them. No point in "saving" a dog if it headed for an unsuitable home.

[Greytmate]

People are always being told, if you want a dog get a rescue or a puppy from a reputable breeder. There are so many dogs that need re-homing but it seems the type of dog people want that WOULD suit them best and NOT be in a revolving door situation, are the ones that are too hard to get.

It's frustrating and sad to see potentially excellent dog owners resorting to a BYB or a puppy shop because it's so difficult to get a rescue.

I think maybe you should find out what happens in rescue before you speak so harshly against it. There are plenty of excellent dogs in rescue right now looking for homes, and plenty of excellent, desirable rescue dogs being placed in permanent homes by foster groups every day of the week.

If you are finding it hard to get somebody reputable to sell you a dog, there may be a good reason for that.

[Jed]

*nods*

Cav rescue (all states) and Cav breeders try really hard to pull any cavs from pounds asap. They are basically sitting on the start line, waiting to go and get the dogs.

It's not about money or profit, it is because every cav breeder is appalled to think of a Cav, sad, unhappy, alone, frightened, being in a pound. There is also the fact that rescue/breeders think they can find a better home than the pound can, and the dog will be desexed before leaving rescue.

I advertised a rescue cav in the paper once, and Cav Rescue phoned me up to try to take the dog before a puppy farm got him. We all had a good laugh about that when we each realised who it was

[HugUrPup]

People are always being told, if you want a dog get a rescue or a puppy from a reputable breeder. There are so many dogs that need re-homing but it seems the type of dog people want that WOULD suit them best and NOT be in a revolving door situation, are the ones that are too hard to get.

It's frustrating and sad to see potentially excellent dog owners resorting to a BYB or a puppy shop because it's so difficult to get a rescue.

I think maybe you should find out what happens in rescue before you speak so harshly against it. There are plenty of excellent dogs in rescue right now looking for homes, and plenty of excellent, desirable rescue dogs being placed in permanent homes by foster groups every day of the week.

If you are finding it hard to get somebody reputable to sell you a dog, there may be a good reason for that.

Actually I don't have difficulty getting a rescue dog and I am meeting one this week in fact. I KNOW what breed is best for us and what breed would be in the best environment here and I know this better than anyone else who could meet me in 5 minutes and decide for me. I also make it clear before getting a dog that if I think the dog would suit us, that I would only trial it first to make sure. If the rescuers turn someone down, then tell them why and perhaps even try to work with them on what is the best dog to get, because I would rather see the people get a rescue than buy a puppy from a shop or BYB.

Jed, I hate seeing dogs in pounds also and I was more than happy to give a cav a permanent forever home here, but rescue decided they would take him first.

Edited September 28, 2010 by puggerup

[_PL_]

sounds like we're all in it for the money. Awesome. I'll contact my bank in the morning - inform them there must be plenty in there because I do rescue. Then I'll empty the account and and go on a nice long holiday because I can't actually remember the last time I was able to leave town, not check emails, take calls, check on dogs, update sites, spend the weekend doing home visits or the day washing dogs and beds. Who's with me?

Seriously, rescue takes a toll on every single facet of life and burnout is high.

I personally think threads where people jump up and down about a dog they didn't get are extremely demoralising. There is a line where constructive critisism crosses over into sticking the boot in for the hell of it and wild generalisations end up looking like the norm.

[Greytmate]

*nods*

Cav rescue (all states) and Cav breeders try really hard to pull any cavs from pounds asap. They are basically sitting on the start line, waiting to go and get the dogs.

It's not about money or profit, it is because every cav breeder is appalled to think of a Cav, sad, unhappy, alone, frightened, being in a pound. There is also the fact that rescue/breeders think they can find a better home than the pound can, and the dog will be desexed before leaving rescue.

I advertised a rescue cav in the paper once, and Cav Rescue phoned me up to try to take the dog before a puppy farm got him. We all had a good laugh about that when we each realised who it was

Yes. And if any normal pet buying family wanted to buy a Cavalier, I would recommend they go to Cavalier rescue or a registered Cavalier breeder, and not just pull one out of the pound on their own. The adopter and dogs both benefit with the specialist help and support that can come with breed specific rescue. They can provide the education and info that turns a good new owner into a great new owner.

[HugUrPup]

It would help if cav rescue replied to emails too

[Fleuri]

Sorry just a question & Somewhat out of topic

I was looking at Renbury Farm's website

And there are many dogs there that already have been selected by a rescue some within 2-3 days of from the date. Does this mean that if you wanted one or if the owner wants their dog back they would have to go through that rescue group?

Their site only says that all dogs listed under the web- link are now at rescue shelter.

Thanks.

[HugUrPup]

I think maybe you should find out what happens in rescue before you speak so harshly against it. There are plenty of excellent dogs in rescue right now looking for homes, and plenty of excellent, desirable rescue dogs being placed in permanent homes by foster groups every day of the week.

If you are finding it hard to get somebody reputable to sell you a dog, there may be a good reason for that.

I know how it works and I have seen pug rescue get dogs in a really bad way and spend a fortune on getting them well and then re-homing them. These dogs are in desperate medical need which they wouldn't get in a pound which is why they are rescued and why pug owners turn them in to pug rescue.

I am speaking about perfectly healthy dogs which are already desexed, taken from the pound on day one and on sold for twice the amount and I have SEEN that happen.

I am not speaking about EVERY rescue group, I am speaking about certain ones.

[rubiton]

Came across a rescue site apparently from SA today. My problem with it was they have no info 'about us' (says coming soon) and their only contact is a web feedback style form or a hotmail email address. Its states is a registered charity too but no contact names, location, phone numbers and all animals are 'with fosters and no details can be given out'. Now OK thats fine but to even approach them for a dog you have to agree to give them a lot of details and for a 'volunteer' to turn up and do a home check asking things like - what is it going to eat? (Sorry but dog food? why is the volunteer asking this not the admin types) how tidy is the yard (there will always be 'stuff' in yards and dogs are smart enough not to get caught up), there was no question regards 'is the gate secure'. Yes probably a group of well meaning people who want the best for any dogs they get out from the RSPCA or AWL (they seem to be the 'pound' for most of Adelaide) but want someone to tell them everything in forms emailed to a hotmail address (not much security with hotmail and people are to email forms with personal info) submit to a volunteer inspecting their house, etc. Put me off despite what seemed good intentions from other info on the site - a business name ABN and at last a PO Box and land line phone would look a bit better. Remember there have been a lot of home invasions etc in Adelaide lately and people have every right to not want to hand over their personal info easily.

In Adelaide you basically have RSPCA, AWL and the one at Hahndorf or privately through the classifieds for general breeds and crossbreds (GAP is there for greyhounds) so thats why its was interesting to come across this new one but some of the regulations on their site does seem a bit offputting.

[_PL_]

Sorry just a question & Somewhat out of topic

I was looking at Renbury Farm's website

And there are many dogs there that already have been selected by a rescue some within 2-3 days of from the date. Does this mean that if you wanted one or if the owner wants their dog back they would have to go through that rescue group?

Their site only says that all dogs listed under the web- link are now at rescue shelter.

Thanks.

Fleuri the symbol means they have rescue backup and will only go to the group if not reclaimed or purchased by the time their impound is over.

[k9angel]

sounds like we're all in it for the money. Awesome. I'll contact my bank in the morning - inform them there must be plenty in there because I do rescue. Then I'll empty the account and and go on a nice long holiday because I can't actually remember the last time I was able to leave town, not check emails, take calls, check on dogs, update sites, spend the weekend doing home visits or the day washing dogs and beds. Who's with me?

Seriously, rescue takes a toll on every single facet of life and burnout is high.

I personally think threads where people jump up and down about a dog they didn't get are extremely demoralising. There is a line where constructive critisism crosses over into sticking the boot in for the hell of it and wild generalisations end up looking like the norm.

We can always dream Anna

[Greytmate]

People are always being told, if you want a dog get a rescue or a puppy from a reputable breeder. There are so many dogs that need re-homing but it seems the type of dog people want that WOULD suit them best and NOT be in a revolving door situation, are the ones that are too hard to get.

It's frustrating and sad to see potentially excellent dog owners resorting to a BYB or a puppy shop because it's so difficult to get a rescue.

I think maybe you should find out what happens in rescue before you speak so harshly against it. There are plenty of excellent dogs in rescue right now looking for homes, and plenty of excellent, desirable rescue dogs being placed in permanent homes by foster groups every day of the week.

If you are finding it hard to get somebody reputable to sell you a dog, there may be a good reason for that.

Actually I don't have difficulty getting a rescue dog and I am meeting one this week in fact. I KNOW what breed is best for us and what breed would be in the best environment here and I know this better than anyone else who could meet me in 5 minutes and decide for me. I also make it clear before getting a dog that if I think the dog would suit us, that I would only trial it first to make sure. If the rescuers turn someone down, then tell them why and perhaps even try to work with them on what is the best dog to get, because I would rather see the people get a rescue than buy a puppy from a shop or BYB.

Jed, I hate seeing dogs in pounds also and I was more than happy to give a cav a permanent forever home here, but rescue decided they would take him first.

The purpose of application and screening is so (amongst many other things) that the rescue knows that you know what you are in for. Not to decide what breed you get. Any application I have processed has literally taken hours, and I certainly wouldn't sell anyone a dog after five minutes.

The organisation that has the dog in foster care is in the best position to know exactly what the dog is like, and what it needs to be happy, and this may or may not fall into line with what you are expecting based on breed alone.

No good rescue group is going to insist you keep a dog that isn't happy living with you, so as long as you are happy you are buying from an ethical organisation, you would be best to answer questions honestly and accept that the foster carer is working in the best interest of the dog and the new family.

I am speaking about perfectly healthy dogs which are already desexed, taken from the pound on day one and on sold for twice the amount and I have SEEN that happen.

I am not speaking about EVERY rescue group, I am speaking about certain ones.

You don't really know the temperaments or individual traits of the dogs until they are settled into care. Any groups that has a constant revolving door of dogs isn't ethical. But the groups that put the dogs through a proper procedure of care and assessment are doing the right thing and they should be getting the best and healthiest dogs they can out of the pounds and giving these dogs help.

Hey Powerlegs. How would you like to spend this Saturday driving out to a home visit, to find that the person has just suddenly picked up a dog from the pound, (after putting in an application to adopt a rescue dog) and didn't bother to cancel the visit? Two weeks later you can answer the phone when they call up to ask what they should be feeding their new dog from the pound and how to get rid of the fleas.

[HugUrPup]

Valid points made Greytmate

Thanks

Edited September 28, 2010 by puggerup

[Fleuri]

Sorry just a question & Somewhat out of topic

I was looking at Renbury Farm's website

And there are many dogs there that already have been selected by a rescue some within 2-3 days of from the date. Does this mean that if you wanted one or if the owner wants their dog back they would have to go through that rescue group?

Their site only says that all dogs listed under the web- link are now at rescue shelter.

Thanks.

Fleuri the symbol means they have rescue backup and will only go to the group if not reclaimed or purchased by the time their impound is over.

Thank you Powerlegs

[_PL_]

Hey Powerlegs. How would you like to spend this Saturday driving out to a home visit, to find that the person has just suddenly picked up a dog from the pound, (after putting in an application to adopt a rescue dog) and didn't bother to cancel the visit? Two weeks later you can answer the phone when they call up to ask what they should be feeding their new dog from the pound and how to get rid of the fleas.

sure, I've got nothing else to do.

[sandra64]

sounds like we're all in it for the money. Awesome. I'll contact my bank in the morning - inform them there must be plenty in there because I do rescue. Then I'll empty the account and and go on a nice long holiday because I can't actually remember the last time I was able to leave town, not check emails, take calls, check on dogs, update sites, spend the weekend doing home visits or the day washing dogs and beds. Who's with me?

Seriously, rescue takes a toll on every single facet of life and burnout is high.

I personally think threads where people jump up and down about a dog they didn't get are extremely demoralising. There is a line where constructive critisism crosses over into sticking the boot in for the hell of it and wild generalisations end up looking like the norm.