Vaccinating At 16 Wks ........ Do You Or Dont You?

[Jsk]

I have been talking to a few different people about the 16 wk vaccination.

1 person says vets recommend the 16 wks vaccs.

Some one else said that there vet has just done the 12 wks one and then again in 12 mths.

So what do you do??

PS. I put this in Show Forum as I am wanting to know specifically about what you do for your show dogs.

Edited September 14, 2010 by JSK

[rexiam]

Our vet used to recommend only doing 8 and 12 week vaccinations.

At 6 months old Molly & Chuzzy both got Parvo. Both didn't make it

Our vet than changed there protocol after speaking to drug company and they recommend the 16 week vaccination too.

I will always do a 16 week vaccination now.

[helen]

I have been told (by vets) that if maternal anibodies are high they still may be present at 12 weeks, so if they are the 12 week vaccination is not effective so they need 16 week also

Sorry to hear about your 2 rexiam, very sad to loose young pups

Edited September 14, 2010 by helen

[Rottigirl]

Ditto to Rexiam. Why do people not vaccinate at 16weeks

I have a little rotti pup that got parvo because a vet followed vaccination protocol that at 12 weeks he got C5 and 16 weeks he got Kennel Cough/Parainfluenza . That stupidity cost me a fortune (and I'm talking over $10K) to save my dog's life and we almost didn't....

Vet blamed the vacc company for saying they said their vac works at 10 weeks and then he blamed my dog because of his breed (they say rottis are more susceptable to parvo). The maternal antibodies in some breeds prevent them from gaining proper immunity with vaccinations at 12 weeks. I still don't understand why, if my vet knew that rottis are more suceptible to parvo, you would take the risk and not vaccinate it at 16 weeks or recommend titre . Needless to say we have changed vets to one that isn't such a complete moron.

I have also been told there have been more cases of parvo in our area, no doubt due to inadequate vaccination policy (people in my area are diligent about vaccinating their dogs).

The least you can do for your puppy if you aren't going to vaccinate at 16 weeks is titre so you aren't overvaccinating but you make sure your pups have antibodies to those awful diseses vaccinations were designed to prevent so you and your pup don't have to go through it. Nursing a dying parvo puppy is the absolute pits and is avoidable if you follow correct vaccination protocols.

Edited September 14, 2010 by Rottigirl

[Cockerlover]

I give a total of 3 vacs ,then a booster @ 12mnths ..

Wish we could sort out this vacination ???????

[SpikesPuppy]

Casey was vacc'd at 7 weeks, then 13 and her next one isn't due until 2013.

[Asalei]

I decided it was better to be safe than sorry and got all three done.

We probably wouldn't know the outcome either way, but I don't think I could live with myself knowing that if I had of just got that vaccination, my dog might have been okay.

She'll be getting her 12 month booster too.

[oakway]

It's up to the individual what they do or believe is right.

We all know some vets over service for the almighty dollar.

All I can tell you is that I vaccinate a 8 weeks (a day or two either way isn't going to matter)

Then a second after three months.

I have no set date to do the second, it may be four months or more.

I believe that vaccinating the pups effect ally has more to with the anti bodies passed onto the pups from the dam.

The longer you wait the more effective the vaccine may be.

I also believe that some bitches may be passing on antibodies long after they should be.

I always make sure MY pups are not allowed to nurse from their dam after six weeks, just to help lower the chance that the bitch may be one of those that are still passing on antibodies.

I got onto this many years ago after speaking to a sobbing lady at vets saying that all the puppies she bred had died.

This was when we vaccinated at six weeks.

She used a smart vet and they tested the bitches milk and proved that the bitch was still passing on anti bodies. The pups were a Toy breed and the all this happened at about nine weeks.

Nobivac have a vaccine on the market that used at 10 weeks will override the maternal antibodies and no further vaccine needs to be used for life. Excluding the known yearly ones.

Ten weeks is what I was told, it may even be earlier now as it is some time since I bred a litter.

Why do I seek information all the time about vaccines...because I held my most beautiful girl while the vet HAD to PTS because of autoimmune disease because of over vaccination.

This was at a the time it was the norm for us to vaccinate yearly.

[Bindii]

I'm pretty sure it actually depends on the brand of the drug being used, some say three all up, others say just the two - that they work early enough to not need that extra injection (magical science stuff)

Some vets use brands that only need two but do three so as not to lose the money. Some also give no option but C5 despite the fact that KC is not deadly and over vaccination is well known to cause diseases and risk.

Me? Because we do lots of doggy activities I am responsible and vaccinate against KC for that reason. So it's 8 weeks C3, 12 weeks C5, 16 weeks KC only. Yearly booster of C5 until it becomes 3 yearly and I can do it legally through my clinic and still be able to attend obedience etc.

[poodlefan]

Not all vaccine regimes require the third (16 week) dose.

Howie got 6 weeks, 12 weeks and his one year booster. He'll be titred from here on in.

[Tilly]

My youngest got 3 needles ... he did become unwell after I gave him his second needle and I did toss up about getting the third needle ... but with parvo bad in our area I decided it was safer with then without. He has now had his first booster 12 months later and I think I will titre from now on and only vaccinate when I need to.

[dasha]

I worked at a vet clinic and it varied ther on the age the first vacc was given

If the 1st on was 6ish weeks then they got a series of 3.

If they were older say 8-10 weeks at their 1st one hten they only got 2.

It was a long time ago but it had something about the maternal antibodies and it was questionable how musch of the 1st one is effective so thereofre another 2 were needed.

[becks]

We use Nobivac which over ride dams immunity, vacc at 8 weeks and 11 weeks.

[nynka]

I am concerned about this post mis-informing people as it is my understanding you are talking about two different vaccine choices, not one vaccine where you decide if you re-vaccinate or not.......

[auto]

I believe that is depends wether you get c3 at 6weeks they need 3 but if they have had c4 at 6weeks they only need 2, But some breeds like rotties are more prone to parvo and need 3. i hope this helps, And i havev the armer guard on. LOL

[skyehaven]

I do 6 weeks, 10 weeks and 14 weeks.

[RoxyNHemi]

Hemi was done at 7 and 13, with a recommendation for a third.. Vet tried persuading the fact with there is parvo in the area.... I think in my vets instance it was a bit of a money grab, I havent gone back, but will for the 12 month booster, then I am considering titre testing after that.

[Rottigirl]

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Edited September 17, 2010 by Rottigirl

[Jsk]

PS. I put this in Show Forum as I am wanting to know specifically about what you do for your show dogs.

I retract my comments then because 'show dogs' are not dogs that fit within the wider community and can spread or be affected by disease caused by bad vaccination policies .

Before making assumptions maybe youshould question my statement, that way you dont make your self look stupid

Why I specified "showdogs" is simply because when showing at the Ag shows there is often dogs that belong to the carnival folk that could have only good knows what. Also shows arent always at the same show ground alot of the time we are only going to some grounds once or twice a year, so only god knows what has been there since we were last there 12 months ago.

And to generalise (I hate doing it but) those that dont show there dogs normally arent going to a different place every weekend they will normally stick to a few places.

If you have any idea of the show world you will understand what I am trying to say, I am not being stuck up or implying anyone is better than the other.

[Jsk]

PS if it's not too much trouble can you remove my vote? Thanks

Somepeople need to get over them selves