Both Sides Happy With Contract

[jpandkt08]

wow if thats here we go again for you. people are going to post good bad and ugly and i was telling you what haapened and i would not wish parvo on anyones dog or pup

as i said your pup you desion

Does anybody think that perhaps people are just interested on sharing...not doom and gloom all the time? Just made a simple comment about taking him outside around the block. Didnt ask for anybody to give me their opinion as to whether I made the right decision or whether its too young or whether he might die.

[Andisa]

JPandkt08, I don't think anyone has been intense or questioned your intelligence as you've mentioned. In fact the other thread was very informative and polite.

What I do see is many experienced dog people - some with a lifetime of knowledge to offer, advising you in response to the thread you began.

for every one successful breeder's terms, there are many more that end in tears, trashed friendships and legal action.

people here were merely giving you the benefit of their hard won knowledge.

fifi

Ain't that the truth.....

[TsarsMum]

awsome thanks ill do that one. i know how to do nails was a groomer but i love ways to make life alot more easy for pup and me

[Jacquiboss&scoop]

I have a rottie , her nails are always to long and this one makes it so much easier , the back feet are still a little fiddly but its better if they want to give you their foot , helps if you tell the vet to that they have a paw word LOL

[lic_82]

congrates of your pup he is lovely.

please be very careful on walking a large breed at such a young age one he is not vaccinated fully and can pick up all sorts and too they dont need that much exercise.

train him to walk in the backyard then out in public.

Yes I know, I wasnt walking him for exercise so much as to begin to get him used to being outside. As the great Ceasar has stated in lots of his instructional videos, training begins before we even realise they can understand us. I did however check with the vet yesterday and he said that its fine to walk him, just not to other dogs or thru the park until his booster shots?

he is your pup and do as you wish

I had a pup nearly die of parvo and never sat foot into a park until he got his last needles.

and plus 1 to the above poster

And here we go again...

Please dont feel like this is an attack on you... The people of DOL are very knowlegable and very passionate. The thought of your gorgeous long awaited baby getting a nasty disease whilst out and about at such a young age would be a tragedy.

PS your puppy is very sweet.

[Remarkabull]

I am not a breeder, I have never co-owned a dog and I have never purchased a puppy on a breeder contract. Despite my lack of experience in these matters I also think that you got the raw end of the deal. The breeder definately gets the best of this deal by a long shot. Not only did you have to pay for the puppy (that is not in your name), you now have to feed and house it and provide veterinary treatment for it. All the while the breeder gets full use of the dog for stud and then also wants you to pay (albiet half price or a discounted rate) for a puppy that is sired by your (kind of) dog. I followed the other thread and all I saw was people offering you their advise based on the many years of experience that they have had. You didn't like what they were saying and you wanted the puppy badly enough to chose to ignore good advise and go ahead with it.

And now you are having a go at people who genuinely care about the welfare of this puppy. Do some research about large breed dogs and their excersize requirements. It doesn't seem like much to us but a walk around the block is HUGE for a 8 week old puppy. Especially if it takes 40 minutes!

I truly hope that it all works out well for you and the puppy, but you need to understand that people are not always going to tell you what you want to hear. There is some great advise and help on this site if you choose to use it, but if all you are after is for everyone to agree with you then you definately won't like it here!

[fifi]

jpandkt08, perhaps you are a very experienced dog person, and have had giant breed puppies in the past. But as many here don't know you yet, I guess there is a sense of DOL'ers trying to be helpful with advice.

Giant breed pups do have very special raising needs when it comes to diet & excersise, so many would feel a need to advise or assist you raise a healthy baby :-)

fifi

[WreckitWhippet]

40 minutes is such a long time for a baby to be on lead.

[Florise]

congrates of your pup he is lovely.

please be very careful on walking a large breed at such a young age one he is not vaccinated fully and can pick up all sorts and too they dont need that much exercise.

train him to walk in the backyard then out in public.

Yes I know, I wasnt walking him for exercise so much as to begin to get him used to being outside. As the great Ceasar has stated in lots of his instructional videos, training begins before we even realise they can understand us. I did however check with the vet yesterday and he said that its fine to walk him, just not to other dogs or thru the park until his booster shots?

he is your pup and do as you wish

I had a pup nearly die of parvo and never sat foot into a park until he got his last needles.

and plus 1 to the above poster

And here we go again...

Please dont feel like this is an attack on you... The people of DOL are very knowlegable and very passionate. The thought of your gorgeous long awaited baby getting a nasty disease whilst out and about at such a young age would be a tragedy.

PS your puppy is very sweet.

If you are not happy with varying advice given here, why not just get advice from the breeder? After all, they are the people who know the breed and can advise you re diet, exercise and socialisation, to ensure the pup is given the best possible start in life

[jpandkt08]

congrates of your pup he is lovely.

please be very careful on walking a large breed at such a young age one he is not vaccinated fully and can pick up all sorts and too they dont need that much exercise.

train him to walk in the backyard then out in public.

Yes I know, I wasnt walking him for exercise so much as to begin to get him used to being outside. As the great Ceasar has stated in lots of his instructional videos, training begins before we even realise they can understand us. I did however check with the vet yesterday and he said that its fine to walk him, just not to other dogs or thru the park until his booster shots?

he is your pup and do as you wish

I had a pup nearly die of parvo and never sat foot into a park until he got his last needles.

and plus 1 to the above poster

And here we go again...

Please dont feel like this is an attack on you... The people of DOL are very knowlegable and very passionate. The thought of your gorgeous long awaited baby getting a nasty disease whilst out and about at such a young age would be a tragedy.

PS your puppy is very sweet.

If you are not happy with varying advice given here, why not just get advice from the breeder? After all, they are the people who know the breed and can advise you re diet, exercise and socialisation, to ensure the pup is given the best possible start in life

Thankyou, I am in contact with the breeder and she is very helpful answering questions I have. I havent gone into buying a Berner with my eyes shut. Nor do I ignore advise and guidelines provided regarding the breed. I guess thats my point tho. People act like others must know nothing.

Sorry if i've offended anybody. Thankyou for everyones advice.

[jpandkt08]

wow if thats here we go again for you. people are going to post good bad and ugly and i was telling you what haapened and i would not wish parvo on anyones dog or pup

as i said your pup you desion

...which also goes to show that nothing is only way to prevent your puppy contracting a virus. Thats not to say that we have to be careless and not take any precautions.

[poodlefan]

I strongly recommend you take the advice about not overexercising your baby in the spirit it is intended jp ie. the best interests of your pup.

The risks of exercise induced joint issues in a giant breed pup are very real. You can damage growth plates also. If your vet thinks that 40 minutes on lead exercise is ok for an 8 week old Berner then I can only recommend you find another vet that is more familiar with the growth issues associated with giant breeds.

Many folk don't exercise their giant breed pups on lead until they are 12 months old. No pup of mine is exercised this way until they are 6 months old.

This does not mean that the pup isn't ever on lead but the leash time is for teaching manners, not for exercise.

Your baby will get all the exercise he needs with sensible off lead play. 5 minutes exercise on lead per month of puppies age is a conservative recommendation.

I don't think you're stupid. But ignorance has seen a lot of puppies crippled for life. No amount of intellect will assist anyone to manage an issue they simply don't know about.

But hey, don't take my word for it. Talk to the pup's breeder and do some research. Join a Berner chat list.

Edited September 14, 2010 by poodlefan

[lovemesideways]

You gotta realise people aren't having a go at you. As far as you go as a person, most people here don't even care. What they (we) are thinking about, is the puppy, and only the puppy.

So it's not a personal attack if someone says "Don't do that it is bad for your puppy!" its just their idea based on previous experiences. (Which quite often, considering the broadness that is DOL, is breeding litters, raising and training dogs.)

Imagine if you ignored peoples comments here simply because you feel like they're insulting your intelligence or something. Then your puppy gets parvo and dies. Very "doom and gloom" I know, but considering how awful parvo is, its not far from the truth.