Puppy Farm Awareness Rally

[oakway]

Deleted because what I did didn't work.

yes your answer was in the quote. still saw it though.

Well your luckier than me because mine merged to a blur so I deleted It.

I'll go in and give it another go if you like.

[toy dog]

Deleted because what I did didn't work.

yes your answer was in the quote. still saw it though.

Well your luckier than me because mine merged to a blur so I deleted It.

I'll go in and give it another go if you like.

a blur? sometimes DOL does funny things. i kept on doing double posts further up. it was taking ages to load up so i got impatient and pressed reply again.

oooppssss i have to go i am not meant to be on here, my boss is calling i wonder if i could hide under the desk.

[toy dog]

Deleted because what I did didn't work.

yes your answer was in the quote. still saw it though.

Well your luckier than me because mine merged to a blur so I deleted It.

I'll go in and give it another go if you like.

i've forgotten what your answer was!

[Souff]

sometimes VOLUNTEERS have jobs, lives etc and they take time to answer questions.

If you sent your email from a gmail/yahoo address, a lot of filters will place your email in spam.

Patience is a virtue.

I am aware that other people have lives and what not, however it really should not take almost a week to answer my question considering it was only about their stance on registered ethical breeders and seeing how they already had stated that they were not opposed to them I would have thought that the answer would have been forthcoming very quickly. It also should not matter if I sent an email from a free email provider considering lots of people only use them.

Manners is also a virtue, however it is one that is fading fast from this world

--Lhok

I just love how this is repeated over and over like u think your holding a cross up to a vampire?

what on earth makes u think your not about to be tarred with the same brush as those in your own ranks you have decided are "unethical"?????? and are happy to stand by and see wiped from your "ethical" ranks?

u all are members of the cc's,??? you all have registered dogs???

better get bigger brighter crosses mayhap?

as i tried to explain earlier, your all the same critters. the lions doesnt care which antelope its herdmates think is ethical, or the antelope that thinks it is the epitime of ethical and so can cast the first stone on it decides are lower than life in the ranks, that antelop firmly believes it shouldnt be dinner

but to the lion, its just the same as the rest of the potential dinners

Asal, I laughed when I read your opening line, but you are absolutely right.

There can be no difference when legislation is written. The words "ethical" or "unethical" will not be making an appearance.

The people behind Oscars Law don't want breeders to be breeding or advertising dogs - full stop.

The lion still wants the antelope for dinner - ethical or unethical antelope does not matter. The lion is the Animal Libbers ...... and the antelope is the Dog Breeders.

They will just try to make it look like that is not the aim.

Bigger, brighter crosses will give no protection to even the best of breeders.

Thanks for the laugh though.

Souff

[asal]

sometimes VOLUNTEERS have jobs, lives etc and they take time to answer questions.

If you sent your email from a gmail/yahoo address, a lot of filters will place your email in spam.

Patience is a virtue.

I am aware that other people have lives and what not, however it really should not take almost a week to answer my question considering it was only about their stance on registered ethical breeders and seeing how they already had stated that they were not opposed to them I would have thought that the answer would have been forthcoming very quickly. It also should not matter if I sent an email from a free email provider considering lots of people only use them.

Manners is also a virtue, however it is one that is fading fast from this world

--Lhok

I just love how this is repeated over and over like u think your holding a cross up to a vampire?

what on earth makes u think your not about to be tarred with the same brush as those in your own ranks you have decided are "unethical"?????? and are happy to stand by and see wiped from your "ethical" ranks?

u all are members of the cc's,??? you all have registered dogs???

better get bigger brighter crosses mayhap?

as i tried to explain earlier, your all the same critters. the lions doesnt care which antelope its herdmates think is ethical, or the antelope that thinks it is the epitime of ethical and so can cast the first stone on it decides are lower than life in the ranks, that antelop firmly believes it shouldnt be dinner

but to the lion, its just the same as the rest of the potential dinners

Asal, I laughed when I read your opening line, but you are absolutely right.

There can be no difference when legislation is written. The words "ethical" or "unethical" will not be making an appearance.

The people behind Oscars Law don't want breeders to be breeding or advertising dogs - full stop.

The lion still wants the antelope for dinner - ethical or unethical antelope does not matter. The lion is the Animal Libbers ...... and the antelope is the Dog Breeders.

They will just try to make it look like that is not the aim.

Bigger, brighter crosses will give no protection to even the best of breeders.

Thanks for the laugh though.

Souff

funny how few dont seem to realise Judy Guard is the bell wether for the lot .

of course now the knife has found her, most of the the ethical mob brigade are muttering, seee was unethical after all or it wouldnt have happend ...

where theres smoke theres fire u know

[Natsu chan]

Another thought occurs, is how is this bill as it stands going to impact on primary producers and the breeders of working dogs, be they herding dogs or other wise? They seem to be completely forgotten in all of this and they are essential and impossible to replace. All of these bills are being written and proposed with so little fore thought. Has anyone even consulted the farming community about this stuff? I'm sure they'd be impacted upon given I've yet to meet a single desexed working dog.

[toy dog]

cut and pasted from oscar laws website:

What is the difference between a registered breeder and a puppy factory (and how will I know)?A registered breeder is registered with the Australian National Kennel Council and must meet certain requirements. A breeder will usually specialise in one breed and is also likely to be involved in showing that breed.

A puppy factory will not be registered with the ANKC. Many claim to be registered, but they are just a ‘registered’ business! The ANKC only registers ‘pure breed’ dog breeders. All designer dogs are cross breeds.

A breeder will be happy for you to visit them to meet the parents and the pups at their own premises, in fact most will insist. Puppy factories will not. If puppy factories who meet the legal requirements of minimum standards of care will not let you see their breeding facilities - they know that you will be horrified.

A breeder will know about their breed, they will be happy to answer your questions and are very likely to have plenty of their own. If you are suspicious, go home and do some research.

What’s wrong with cross breed dogs?Nothing! Cross breed dogs are just as likely to make a wonderful pet as a pure breed. But because puppy factory dogs are mass produced and kept in isolated conditions until purchase, they have a high likelihood of suffering from behavioural and health problems.

Why are there health problems with pups from puppy factories?Many breeds of dogs have conditions that they are prone to, such as hip dysplasia, chronic skin conditions, overshot jaws and heart murmurs. Good breeders test their breeding dogs for these conditions prior to mating. Puppy factories do not and, as they have no contact with the puppies once they have left the factory, they have no idea what genetic defects they are continuing to breed into these puppies.

Why are pet shop puppies more likely to have behaviour problems?It has been known by behaviourists for years that the most important time in a puppy’s development is between 3 to 12 weeks and puppies isolated during this time (say in a glass box in a pet shop or cage at a factory) are much more likely develop behavioural issues than a well socialised dog.

In short - puppy factory puppies miss out on the two things that are known to help shape a good, stable temperament for later life; good breeding and many and varied positive life experiences before the age of seven weeks. As long as they're cute and fluffy, the factory farmer gets his money.

What happens to ex-breeding stock?Dogs should not be bred every heat cycle as it is bad for their bodies. Puppy factory bitches are bred every time they come into heat, until their uterus prolapses and falls out of their body. Once the dog is no longer useful for breeding it is destroyed and replaced by one of her female pups.

Dogs rescued from puppy factories are often very difficult to rehome. They have known nothing but a cage their entire life and struggle to cope with the outside world. Many of these dogs can not be rehabilitated as pets and will be euthanased. The ones that are saved will need special care their entire lives.

[sumosmum]

Another thought occurs, is how is this bill as it stands going to impact on primary producers and the breeders of working dogs, be they herding dogs or other wise? They seem to be completely forgotten in all of this and they are essential and impossible to replace. All of these bills are being written and proposed with so little fore thought. Has anyone even consulted the farming community about this stuff? I'm sure they'd be impacted upon given I've yet to meet a single desexed working dog.

What Bill are you referring to?

[Natsu chan]

The proposed bill that came about after the talks Steve went to. I know it's on DOL some where. This is the one that will in all probability be put forward and is the one most of the people in this thread are referring too, in conjunction with the COP in NSW which I am let to believe will probably be duplicated here.

[sumosmum]

The proposed bill that came about after the talks Steve went to. I know it's on DOL some where. This is the one that will in all probability be put forward and is the one most of the people in this thread are referring too, in conjunction with the COP in NSW which I am let to believe will probably be duplicated here.

Ok, thank you. I thought you meant there was some Bill regarding the rally.

[Steve]

Another thought occurs, is how is this bill as it stands going to impact on primary producers and the breeders of working dogs, be they herding dogs or other wise? They seem to be completely forgotten in all of this and they are essential and impossible to replace. All of these bills are being written and proposed with so little fore thought. Has anyone even consulted the farming community about this stuff? I'm sure they'd be impacted upon given I've yet to meet a single desexed working dog.

Working dogs will be exempt because they are too frightened of the Australian Farmers Association.

[Steve]

cut and pasted from oscar laws website:

What is the difference between a registered breeder and a puppy factory (and how will I know)?A registered breeder is registered with the Australian National Kennel Council and must meet certain requirements. A breeder will usually specialise in one breed and is also likely to be involved in showing that breed. Our studies show most are not only involved in one breed

A puppy factory will not be registered with the ANKC. Some breeders who breed hundreds of puppies each year are registered with the ANKC and you can be registered with the ANKC and breed dogs other than purebred registered dogs.The ANKC codes of conduct only cover what you can do with your ANKC registered dogs But anyone can be and is an ANKC registered breeder. In fact several of the members of the Australian Association of Pet Dog Breeders - a puppy farmer group are ANKC registered breeders. Many claim to be registered, but they are just a 'registered' business! The ANKC only registers 'pure breed' dog breeders .The ANKC only registers purebred dogs any one including any dog breeder can be an ANKC member. All designer dogs are cross breeds.

A breeder will be happy for you to visit them to meet the parents and the pups at their own premises, in fact most will insist.Many purebred dog breeders are not happy for people to visit their homes for a variety of reasons. Puppy factories will not. If puppy factories who meet the legal requirements of minimum standards of care will not let you see their breeding facilities - they know that you will be horrified.Not necessarily these days most dont want anyone visiting because they are worried about redneck animal rights.

A breeder will know about their breed, they will be happy to answer your questions and are very likely to have plenty of their own. If you are suspicious, go home and do some research.

What's wrong with cross breed dogs?Nothing! Cross breed dogs are just as likely to make a wonderful pet as a pure breed. But because puppy factory dogs are mass produced and kept in isolated conditions until purchase, they have a high likelihood of suffering from behavioural and health problems. Where are the studies to support this?

Why are there health problems with pups from puppy factories?Many breeds of dogs have conditions that they are prone to, such as hip dysplasia, chronic skin conditions, overshot jaws and heart murmurs. Good breeders test their breeding dogs for these conditions prior to mating. Puppy factories do not some puppy factories do test their parent stock and do know the pedigrees of the parents, in fact many of them are vets. and, as they have no contact with the puppies once they have left the factory, they have no idea what genetic defects they are continuing to breed into these puppies.Many registered purebred breeders dont have anything to do with their puppy buyers after the sale either.

Why are pet shop puppies more likely to have behaviour problems?It has been known by behaviourists for years that the most important time in a puppy's development is between 3 to 12 weeks and puppies isolated during this time (say in a glass box in a pet shop or cage at a factory) are much more likely develop behavioural issues than a well socialised dog. Where are the studies to back up assumptions that pet shop puppies are not handled or socialised.Whats the difference to being in a glass enclosure at a pet shop to being in a crate in a lounge room? Pet shops and commercial breeders are saying they do socialise their puppies.

In short - puppy factory puppies miss out on the two things that are known to help shape a good, stable temperament for later life; good breeding and many and varied positive life experiences before the age of seven weeks. As long as they're cute and fluffy, the factory farmer gets his money.

What happens to ex-breeding stock?Dogs should not be bred every heat cycle as it is bad for their bodies.Not true the science of dog breeding tells us exactly the opposite - its worse for a bitch to be stopped from breeding see my above posts on pyometra. Puppy factory bitches are bred every time they come into heat, until their uterus prolapses and falls out of their body.Not true prolapse isnt caused by having puppies every season - its caused by not having puppies every season and cysts which are in the uterus coming out or its caused by being in labour too long without help or puppies being too big. There is no evidence to prove puppy farm bitches get prolapses any more often than regsitered purebred bitches. Once the dog is no longer useful for breeding it is destroyed and replaced by one of her female pups.I know registered purebred breeders who do this and many now are more likely after what happened top Judy Gard and the AAPDB have as part of their code of conduct that they dont bump them off but rather desex and re home.

Dogs rescued from puppy factories are often very difficult to rehome. They have known nothing but a cage their entire life and struggle to cope with the outside world. Many of these dogs can not be rehabilitated as pets and will be euthanased.

Edited September 24, 2010 by Steve

[Steve]

The proposed bill that came about after the talks Steve went to. I know it's on DOL some where. This is the one that will in all probability be put forward and is the one most of the people in this thread are referring too, in conjunction with the COP in NSW which I am let to believe will probably be duplicated here.

There is no bill - yet.Since the rally both labour and liberal have said they will introduce harder laws to legislate breeders and RSPCA more power in Victoria

the results of the talks we attended wont be seen for a while as the aim is to push for Australia wide laws, however the things that were discussed in those talks will be seen all over the place as they inject what they can now. For example the pilot program thats running on the gold coast.

Edited September 24, 2010 by Steve

[Steve]

In the state of Victoria - the only differences between a registered breeder code of ethics and what any other breeder in Victoria has to do - are

20.1.10.A member shall not dispose of dogs owned or bred by the member to a pound or animal refuge.

20.1.11 A member shall breed primarily for the purpose of improving the quality and / or working ability of the breed in accordance with the breed standard, and not specifically for the pet or commercial market.

20.1.15 A member shall not permit any of that member’s pure bred dogs to be mated to a dog of a different breed, to a cross bred dog, to an unregistered dog of the same breed, or to a dog not on the Main Register without the prior approval of the Victorian Canine Association Inc.

20.1.18 A member shall not export a puppy under the age of eleven [11] weeks, or such greater age permitted under the livestock import requirements of the country to which the puppy is being exported.

20.1.19 A member shall not knowingly sell a dog to any person residing in an overseas country known to be involved in the utilisation of dogs for the meat trade without first satisfying the Victorian Canine Association Inc. that the purchaser is a member of an ANKC recognised canine controlling body in the overseas country. The member and purchaser must further acknowledge in writing to the Victorian Canine Association Inc. that the intention of the sale is for the improvement of the quality of that breed in the overseas country, and not for any other purpose.

20.1.21 A breeder shall be expected to maintain reasonable contact with the purchasers of dogs from that breeder and to offer continued advice and reasonable assistance.

20.1.22 A member shall register all puppies bred by that member that are living at the date of registration. Such

registration must include all puppies from the litter on the one litter registration application form and

must be applied for within eighteen [18] months of the date of whelping.

20.1.26 A member shall not:

20.1.26.1 Sell or dispose of a dog to a commercial pet wholesaler or retail pet shop unless they are accredited by the Victorian Canine Association Inc. and the Pet Industry Association of Australia Limited (PIAA).

In the state of victoria if you are a member of the commercial pet dog breeders group these things are covered and their breeders have to comply with these things which are NOT covered by Vic Dogs.

Members shall not house their animals in cages for any reason other than transport, mating or treatment of illnesses

• Members should strongly promote desexing of all pets and should do this by selling their pups either:
  a. Desexed 2 weeks prior to rehoming
  b. With a $50.00 desexing voucher refundable on proof of desexing
  c. To a pet store that offers a desexing voucher with all pups sold.
  
• Members shall not sell puppies to children under the age of 18.
  
• Members shall accurately describe the breeding of the puppies they sell as outlined in the AAPDB Inc Breeding terminology and discussion
  
• Members shall offer a 3 day “cooling off” period after private sale of a puppy during which time the pup can be returned and the purchase price refunded, excluding any non-refundable deposit paid.
  
• Members shall be responsible for reasonable veterinary expenses up to the purchase price of the puppy for illnesses present at the time of sale of a puppy.
  
• Members must provide clear details of how-and-when a refund is applicable. If members do offer refunds they shall not require the return of the dog for these refunds to be paid.
  
• Members shall undertake to take back and rehome any dog they have bred at any stage in the animal’s life should it become homeless for any reason. - unless they are sold to a pet shop.
  
• Members will promote responsible pet dog breeding and responsible pet ownership in both their words and actions.
  

Banksia Park is a member of the AAPDB.

[shortstep]

Another thought occurs, is how is this bill as it stands going to impact on primary producers and the breeders of working dogs, be they herding dogs or other wise? They seem to be completely forgotten in all of this and they are essential and impossible to replace. All of these bills are being written and proposed with so little fore thought. Has anyone even consulted the farming community about this stuff? I'm sure they'd be impacted upon given I've yet to meet a single desexed working dog.

Working dogs will be exempt because they are too frightened of the Australian Farmers Association.

What makes you say this?

They are not exempt from the NSW dog breeding act, it applies to them too. No working breeder orgnaiztions were consulted or even knew anything about the bill when it went through. They were not consulted, had no input, were shocked to read it and it does apply to them.

When the Clover Bill was in progress I alerted the WKC and the AWBCR and they then insisted they be heard on the matter. But no one came to them and asked and again they had no idea it was going to mean they could not breed there dogs. This billed was not passed.

Just to be clear to those reading, most working dogs, be they purebreds or not, are never registered in the kennel club. Some may be registered in a working register, but by far most are not registered anywhere. Many of these dogs will have been breed by their families for generations, even as far back as the mid 1800's.

[Steve]

Sorry shortstep. You're right. I was thinking with regards to registrations and microchips. In Queensland we have a breeder who has working dogs and also another breed - she has to pay 1500 to have her permit to breed her other breed but not her working dogs. She has to pay yearly registrations on her other breed but not her working dogs.

I have to have all of my dogs microchipped and registered but I do not have to have my working dogs chipped or registered.

Edited September 24, 2010 by Steve

[asal]

cut and pasted from oscar laws website:

What is the difference between a registered breeder and a puppy factory (and how will I know)?A registered breeder is registered with the Australian National Kennel Council and must meet certain requirements. A breeder will usually specialise in one breed and is also likely to be involved in showing that breed. Our studies show most are not only involved in one breed

A puppy factory will not be registered with the ANKC. Some breeders who breed hundreds of puppies each year are registered with the ANKC and you can be registered with the ANKC and breed dogs other than purebred registered dogs.The ANKC codes of conduct only cover what you can do with your ANKC registered dogs But anyone can be and is an ANKC registered breeder. In fact several of the members of the Australian Association of Pet Dog Breeders - a puppy farmer group are ANKC registered breeders. Many claim to be registered, but they are just a 'registered' business! The ANKC only registers 'pure breed' dog breeders .The ANKC only registers purebred dogs any one including any dog breeder can be an ANKC member. All designer dogs are cross breeds.

A breeder will be happy for you to visit them to meet the parents and the pups at their own premises, in fact most will insist.Many purebred dog breeders are not happy for people to visit their homes for a variety of reasons. Puppy factories will not. If puppy factories who meet the legal requirements of minimum standards of care will not let you see their breeding facilities - they know that you will be horrified.Not necessarily these days most dont want anyone visiting because they are worried about redneck animal rights.

A breeder will know about their breed, they will be happy to answer your questions and are very likely to have plenty of their own. If you are suspicious, go home and do some research.

What's wrong with cross breed dogs?Nothing! Cross breed dogs are just as likely to make a wonderful pet as a pure breed. But because puppy factory dogs are mass produced and kept in isolated conditions until purchase, they have a high likelihood of suffering from behavioural and health problems. Where are the studies to support this?

Why are there health problems with pups from puppy factories?Many breeds of dogs have conditions that they are prone to, such as hip dysplasia, chronic skin conditions, overshot jaws and heart murmurs. Good breeders test their breeding dogs for these conditions prior to mating. Puppy factories do not some puppy factories do test their parent stock and do know the pedigrees of the parents, in fact many of them are vets. and, as they have no contact with the puppies once they have left the factory, they have no idea what genetic defects they are continuing to breed into these puppies.Many registered purebred breeders dont have anything to do with their puppy buyers after the sale either.

Why are pet shop puppies more likely to have behaviour problems?It has been known by behaviourists for years that the most important time in a puppy's development is between 3 to 12 weeks and puppies isolated during this time (say in a glass box in a pet shop or cage at a factory) are much more likely develop behavioural issues than a well socialised dog. Where are the studies to back up assumptions that pet shop puppies are not handled or socialised.Whats the difference to being in a glass enclosure at a pet shop to being in a crate in a lounge room? Pet shops and commercial breeders are saying they do socialise their puppies.

In short - puppy factory puppies miss out on the two things that are known to help shape a good, stable temperament for later life; good breeding and many and varied positive life experiences before the age of seven weeks. As long as they're cute and fluffy, the factory farmer gets his money.

What happens to ex-breeding stock?Dogs should not be bred every heat cycle as it is bad for their bodies.Not true the science of dog breeding tells us exactly the opposite - its worse for a bitch to be stopped from breeding see my above posts on pyometra. Puppy factory bitches are bred every time they come into heat, until their uterus prolapses and falls out of their body.Not true prolapse isnt caused by having puppies every season - its caused by not having puppies every season and cysts which are in the uterus coming out or its caused by being in labour too long without help or puppies being too big. There is no evidence to prove puppy farm bitches get prolapses any more often than regsitered purebred bitches. Once the dog is no longer useful for breeding it is destroyed and replaced by one of her female pups.I know registered purebred breeders who do this and many now are more likely after what happened top Judy Gard and the AAPDB have as part of their code of conduct that they dont bump them off but rather desex and re home.

Dogs rescued from puppy factories are often very difficult to rehome. They have known nothing but a cage their entire life and struggle to cope with the outside world. Many of these dogs can not be rehabilitated as pets and will be euthanased.

well done steve.

was in the process of adding my comments practicually identical to yours last night and told. leave it, your too upset

what a pack of crock that is.

nowdays even letting someone know u have dogs is inviting the scenario of arriving home to none left. isnt that why the powers that be stopped putting breeders addresses in the journal litter notices? it was discovered they were being used as a shopping list by theives?

[Steve]

NSW is introducing an accredited breeder scheme - which in itself implies that anyone who doesnt jump up and pay the extra money to be an accredited breeder isnt doing what the extra conditions on this are - and you have to ask why these things arent either already assumed to be happening because they are the law in this state or why if they are not law they are not requirements for all registered breeders and already written into their codes.

Its harder to get into the MDBA than it is to become an accredited breeder - what a bloody joke.

Part XIII (A).

Dogs NSW Voluntary Accredited Breeder Scheme (effective 1 January 2011).

To qualify as an Accredited Breeder a member would agree to the following and pay such

annual fees and complete and sign an Application in such form as the Directors may from time

to time require :-

CONDITIONS OF MEMBERSHIP OF VOLUNTARY ACCREDITED BREEDERS

SCHEME

i) pre-mating disease testing of prospective parents

Note: "Disease testing" means;

a) testing for health conditions which are notified by the Breed Club, ANKC or DOGS

NSW as relevant to the breed, and for which scientifically validated, reliable, readily

available and cost effective screening procedures are available.

b) DNA tests for hereditary diseases that are available in the relevant breed.

ii) subject to veterinary advice, no mating where tests indicate inadvisable

iii) microchip puppies prior to sale

iv) puppy microchip numbers to be included in Application to Register Litter (unless

Veterinary advice to the contrary)

v) presale veterinary checks on puppies with written report by veterinary surgeon

vi) copies of parent test results and puppy vet check results to be made available to

prospective purchasers

vii) prospective purchasers can, prior to purchase, view puppies with mother where litter was

born and raised (Note 1)

viii) provide detailed information for puppy care and welfare to purchasers (Note 2)

ix) to observe proper standards of management with regard to the housing, health, exercising

and socialising of all dogs on the premises managed by the registered breeder, including

establishing minimum staffing levels appropriate to the numbers of dogs involved

(Note 3)

x) inspection of kennels and records when requested by DOGS NSW

xi) non compliance may result in deregistration or suspension from scheme (Note 5)

Edited September 24, 2010 by Steve

[Steve]

code of Practice for working dogs NSW

<H2 class=top>1. Introduction</H2>This Code is a guide for people using dogs for agricultural purposes. The Code recommends minimum standards that ensure the health ad well-being of working dogs.

The basic needs of dogs are:

1.1 Accommodation that provides protection from the elements.

1.2 Freedom of movement.

1.3 Readily accessible water and appropriate food.

1.4 Timely recognition and treatment of disease and injury.

1.5 A safe transportation system to and from places of work.

1.6 Adequate exercise.

2. Responsibilities of the owner

The owner of working dogs is responsible for:

2.1 Providing accommodation and equipment suitable for the size

2.2 Providing adequate protection from adverse environmental conditions and climatic extremes.

2.3 Providing sufficient space for dogs to stand and move freely at all times, including any periods of transportation.

2.4 Providing appropriate food and water to maintain good health.

2.5 Reasonable protection from disease, distress and injury.

2.6 Providing prompt veterinary treatment in the case of injury or illness.

2.7 Maintaining hygiene in the premises where dogs are kept.

2.8 Supervising regular feeding and watering.

3. Housing of Dogs

3.1 Kennels

3.1.1 Kennels should be provided to protect dogs from adverse weather.

3.1.2 Kennels should be situated so that a chained dog can reach the kennel and the water supply.

3.1.3 Kennels should have adequate ventilation.

3.1.4 Kennels made from metal should be situated out of direct sunlight or should be effectively insulated.

3.1.5 Chains used to restrain dogs near a kennel should have a swivel set between the chain and the securing clip. The swivel should be maintained in proper working order.

3.2 Pens

3.2.1 Pens should provide enough space for each dog to sit, stand, sleep, stretch, move about and lie with limbs extended.

3.2.2 The pen must be of sufficient size to allow the dog to urinate and defecate in an area well away from feeding and bedding areas. alternatively, pens may be raised above the ground with a slatted area for urination and defecation.

3.2.3 Pens should provide adequate protection from weather through the provision of a kennel or other shelter.

3.2.4 Pens and kennels should be well ventilated to maintain an environment free of dampness and noxious odours but without draughts.

3.2.5 Pens should be drained appropriately to allow water to run off.

3.2.6 Faecal or urine contamination of earth in dirt pens should be avoided. The surface of the pen should be sealed or gravelled if it becomes muddy.

3.2.7 A separate pen should be used for any whelping bitches.

3.3 Running chains

3.3.1 Running chains should be designed in a way that prevents entanglement. Dogs should be able to reach shelter and water without the dropper chain becoming entangled in any obstruction along the running line or its attachment points.

3.3.2 The chain, swivels and running line should be regularly checked for signs of wear.

3.3.3 The running line should be of sufficient length to allow reasonable exercise.

3.3.4 The dropper chain should be of sufficient length to allow reasonable sideways movement and must incorporate a swivel between the clip and the chain.

4. Hygiene

4.1 Pens should be kept clean for the comfort of dogs and for disease control. Faeces should be removed regularly.

4.2 Every effort should be made to control pests including fleas, ticks, flies, lice and mosquitoes.

4.3 Dogs should only be treated with chemicals registered for dogs and only in accordance with the manufacturer's instructions.

5. Health care

5.1 Dogs should be regularly vaccinated against distemper, hepatitis and parvovirus. A program for the control of internal and external parasites should be established in accordance with veterinary advice.

5.2 Health and welfare should be routinely checked in the daily management of working dogs. This should include observing whether a dog is eating, drinking, urinating, defecating and behaving normally.

5.3 Veterinary attention should be sought if a dog shows any signs of ill health.

6. Diet

Dogs should receive appropriate, uncontaminated and nutritionally adequate food and water. The food must be in sufficient quantity and of appropriate composition to provide for:

6.1.1 The normal growth of immature dogs.

6.1.2 The maintenance of reasonable body condition in adult working dogs.

6.1.3 The requirements of pregnancy and lactation in breeding bitches.

6.2 Feeding of uncooked offal should be avoided to prevent the spread of tapeworm and hydatids.

7. Exercise

7.1 Dogs should have the opportunity for regular exercise.

7.1.1 To allow then to urinate and defecate.

7.1.2 To give them contact with humans and other dogs.

7.1.3 To allow them to be observed for any problems.

7.1.4 To let them stretch their limbs.

7.2 Dogs that are not working should receive sufficient exercise to maintain their health and fitness. Ideally, all confined dogs should be given at least 30 minutes off the chain or out of their pen each day.

7.3 Active or old dogs may require more or less exercise than specified.

<A name=8--Transport>8. Transport

8.1 Stock transporters should provide dust-free but well ventilated accommodation for their working dogs on trucks.

8.2 Any vehicle regularly used for transporting dogs should:

8.2.1 Protect dogs from injury.

8.2.2 Have non-slip floors.

8.2.3 Protect dogs from exhaust fumes and extremes of temperature including hot metal floors.

8.2.4 Kept clean.

8.3 Water should be provided during transportation.

8.4 Muzzling of some dogs may be required for their own protection or that of other dogs.

8.5 Dogs restrained on the back of a moving vehicle should be kept on a sufficiently short lead tp prevent movement beyond confines of the vehicle. Hanging over the side of vehicles must be prevented.

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(All other aspects of the Code apply)

9.1 Sentry/peg dogs must be supplied with adequate food and water.

9.2 Sentry/peg dogs must be provided with shade in hot weather and shelter from wind and rain.

9.3 Sentry/peg dogs should be chained in such a way that they have dry ground or dry bedding for sleeping.

9.4 Sentry/peg dogs should not be left unattended for longer than 24 hours.

9.5 Appropriate exercise should be given to sentry/peg dogs, preferably on a daily basis.

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Sorry shortstep. You're right. I was thinking with regards to registrations and microchips. In Queensland we have a breeder who has working dogs and also another breed - she has to pay 1500 to have her permit to breed her other breed but not her working dogs. She has to pay yearly registrations on her other breed but not her working dogs.

I have to have all of my dogs microchipped and registered but I do not have to have my working dogs chipped or registered.

Oh ok got it.

I do hope you are right. With the resent flurry of studies and surveys on working dogs done by Unis, I was thinking them were getting some ammo ready for the guns.