Is It Possible To Get A Dog As Smart As...

[Guest Kate_Summer]

I guess a Dobermann would be a bit too intelligent for you?

But they do need space to run. If they have that, it is better than walking on lead for most of their exercise.

You would have to look at the pedigree and the temp of the parents. Not all Dobes are "full on", specially with the right handling. You just have to know how to teach the calm thing.

What is that supposed to mean?

I reckon they are smarter than the ones you mentioned.

In fact, they are up with the Poodles in the smart range, but they don't have the grooming needs. Short hair and very easy to care for in that respect.

Well I love smart breeds

Poodle are great looking in movies & dog show, but most pet poodles I have seen are just clip like sheep & its probably how mine would be, the reason I don't want one they deserve a better clipping!

I love Dobs, never actually had a chance to see any yet, same for Ridgies

I think hubby didn't realized about the crop ears, not being done anymore, which use to give Dobs an 'aggressive?' kind of look.

ETA: I always love solid dogs better too, I'd would be dead worry owning a small breed, they look & probably are so fragile.

Edited September 1, 2010 by Kate_Summer

[malsrock]

I guess a Dobermann would be a bit too intelligent for you?

But they do need space to run. If they have that, it is better than walking on lead for most of their exercise.

You would have to look at the pedigree and the temp of the parents. Not all Dobes are "full on", specially with the right handling. You just have to know how to teach the calm thing.

What is that supposed to mean?

I reckon they are smarter than the ones you mentioned.

In fact, they are up with the Poodles in the smart range, but they don't have the grooming needs. Short hair and very easy to care for in that respect.

Here's the intelligent's list top 10:

Border Collie

Poodle

German Shepherd

Golden Retriever

Doberman Pinscher

Shetland Sheepdog

Labrador Retriever

Papillon

Rottweiler

Australian Cattle Dog

Edited September 1, 2010 by malsrock

[huski]

LOL That list is really not worth the paper it's written on.

[persephone]

they deserve a better clipping!

Poodles don't care how they are clipped - the clipping/primping is for humans

poodles treated like dogs, puppy clipped or whatever, are great dogs!They are very resilient and can adapt . I have known several who lived in the country- chased rabbits, pretended to be sheepdogs in the sheepyards, rode on tractors/motorbikes ... terrific with kids and other animals and they didn't care what sort of job the groomer did

Edited September 1, 2010 by persephone

[poodlefan]

they deserve a better clipping!

Poodles don't care how they are clipped - the clipping/primping is for humans

poodles treated like dogs, puppy clipped or whatever, are great dogs!They are very resilient and can adapt . I have known several who lived in the country- chased rabbits, pretended to be sheepdogs in the sheepyards, rode on tractors/motorbikes ... terrific with kids and other animals and they didn't care what sort of job the groomer did

You mean this kind of poodle? The dogs don't care how they are clipped. Personally I love a good poodle in sporting clip (no ear fringe, no tail pom - just a head pom and short all over)

Edited September 1, 2010 by poodlefan

[Guest Kate_Summer]

they deserve a better clipping!

Poodles don't care how they are clipped - the clipping/primping is for humans

poodles treated like dogs, puppy clipped or whatever, are great dogs!They are very resilient and can adapt . I have known several who lived in the country- chased rabbits, pretended to be sheepdogs in the sheepyards, rode on tractors/motorbikes ... terrific with kids and other animals and they didn't care what sort of job the groomer did

You mean this kind of poodle? The dogs don't care how they are clipped. Personally I love a good poodle in sporting clip (no ear fringe, no tail pom - just a head pom and short all over)

The head pom make all the difference, my friend as a Poodle but he never has one

[Guest Kate_Summer]

How many times a year do they need to be clip to keep the look?

[poodlefan]

How many times a year do they need to be clip to keep the look?

I'd recommend clipping at a maximum of every 2 months. I think every 6 weeks is better.

You can learn to do it yourself. The gear isn't cheap to get but its less expensive in the long run than paying someone else to do it. Best to start pups off with a professional though - a pup and a learner groomer isn't a great combination. The head poms are scissored by the way.

But if you'd even consider a poodle, there are probably lower maintenance dogs with some sort of coat.

Poodles do best with plenty of exercise - even the Toys will walk your legs off given a chance.

Edited September 1, 2010 by poodlefan

[Guest Kate_Summer]

How many times a year do they need to be clip to keep the look?

I'd recommend clipping at a maximum of every 2 months. I think every 6 weeks is better.

You can learn to do it yourself. The gear isn't cheap to get but its less expensive in the long run than paying someone else to do it. Best to start pups off with a professional though - a pup and a learner groomer isn't a great combination. The head poms are scissored by the way.

But if you'd even consider a poodle, there are probably lower maintenance dogs with some sort of coat.

Poodles do best with plenty of exercise - even the Toys will walk your legs off given a chance.

High exercise, how would it cope if taken for 3-4 huge walk weekly? Or is it a daily requirement? Would a backpack with a bit of weight help(to double up their exercises?)?

[poodlefan]

How many times a year do they need to be clip to keep the look?

I'd recommend clipping at a maximum of every 2 months. I think every 6 weeks is better.

You can learn to do it yourself. The gear isn't cheap to get but its less expensive in the long run than paying someone else to do it. Best to start pups off with a professional though - a pup and a learner groomer isn't a great combination. The head poms are scissored by the way.

But if you'd even consider a poodle, there are probably lower maintenance dogs with some sort of coat.

Poodles do best with plenty of exercise - even the Toys will walk your legs off given a chance.

High exercise, how would it cope if taken for 3-4 huge walk weekly? Or is it a daily requirement? Would a backpack with a bit of weight help(to double up their exercises?)?

Poodles aren't up to weight bearing. They're simply not built for it. Personally I'm no fan of back packs on any dog.

What smart dogs like is variety - they get bored with the same walks. Mix it up, add some training, some ball games etc and they'd cope with that many walks. They just do better with more.

If you got a poodle, what size would you aim for. I'd not go larger than a mini with the exercise you're proposing.

[Guest Kate_Summer]

How many times a year do they need to be clip to keep the look?

I'd recommend clipping at a maximum of every 2 months. I think every 6 weeks is better.

You can learn to do it yourself. The gear isn't cheap to get but its less expensive in the long run than paying someone else to do it. Best to start pups off with a professional though - a pup and a learner groomer isn't a great combination. The head poms are scissored by the way.

But if you'd even consider a poodle, there are probably lower maintenance dogs with some sort of coat.

Poodles do best with plenty of exercise - even the Toys will walk your legs off given a chance.

High exercise, how would it cope if taken for 3-4 huge walk weekly? Or is it a daily requirement? Would a backpack with a bit of weight help(to double up their exercises?)?

Poodles aren't up to weight bearing. They're simply not built for it. Personally I'm no fan of back packs on any dog.

What smart dogs like is variety - they get bored with the same walks. Mix it up, add some training, some ball games etc and they'd cope with that many walks. They just do better with more.

If you got a poodle, what size would you aim for. I'd not go larger than a mini with the exercise you're proposing.

The standard being the larger one - Obviously it wouldn't be for me - I can do lots of play, but wouldnt want to walk 12 km everyday(thats my aim 2-4 times a week, only if my health allows me too, otherwise it will be as it is now, my 30 minute fast pace , but in a few years I could do more than that as I would be by myself all day long, so I could do up to 3 x 30 minutes fast pace walk daily. But by the sound of it it might not be enough for a high exercise type of dog..? At the moment, I'm looking at breeds considering my present circumstances...but in 6 or so years I will either be better or worse(hopefully not).

[noisymina]

LOL That list is really not worth the paper it's written on.

Yeh - wrong list!

they deserve a better clipping!

Poodles don't care how they are clipped - the clipping/primping is for humans :p

poodles treated like dogs, puppy clipped or whatever, are great dogs!They are very resilient and can adapt . I have known several who lived in the country- chased rabbits, pretended to be sheepdogs in the sheepyards, rode on tractors/motorbikes ... terrific with kids and other animals and they didn't care what sort of job the groomer did

My Dobe, I was told, was herding cattle before she came here.

When I had the poodle (a miniature) she was clipped 3-4 times a year. Brushed thoroughly 2-3 tims a week and shampooed every 2-3 weks.

Kate_Summer - mature dogs don't need anywhere near the exercise etc that a pup requires. Dobes, for example, take 2-3 years to mature. Some say 4. Our current one was re-homed with us at 4 years of age. The Poodle I had was a rescue. About 2 when I got her.

Maybe you could consider an older dog as a possible way to meet your requirements?

[huski]

LOL That list is really not worth the paper it's written on.

Yeh - wrong list!

The same list puts beagles as number 72 :p

[malsrock]

LOL That list is really not worth the paper it's written on.

I agree, the Belgian Malinios is missing from the list and the GSD is the smartest of that lot

[Nekhbet]

Why dont you look at one of the mastiff breeds if you're after a little more laid back they are smart, dont need miles of exercise and are happy to just loung around you and the kids all day if you're not up for a walk or a play.

They are smart, can be taught tricks and obedience the biggest limiting factor is their size. Agility is out of the question Although my Bordeaux can easily hop over a big A frame, he tends to get stuck in the tyres and barrels .... plus those walking beams are just not his thing :p but he can sit, drop, roll over, shake, heel, hop up, etc pretty much everything my Malinois can do.

[Guest Kate_Summer]

Why dont you look at one of the mastiff breeds if you're after a little more laid back they are smart, dont need miles of exercise and are happy to just loung around you and the kids all day if you're not up for a walk or a play.

They are smart, can be taught tricks and obedience the biggest limiting factor is their size. Agility is out of the question Although my Bordeaux can easily hop over a big A frame, he tends to get stuck in the tyres and barrels .... plus those walking beams are just not his thing :p but he can sit, drop, roll over, shake, heel, hop up, etc pretty much everything my Malinois can do.

Dogue de Bordeaux?

[TsarsMum]

but you have to like drewl if you want a masstif

[Guest Kate_Summer]

Huski, do beagle escape a fence yard if they smell something? I would not want to lose a precious dog over a smell, not saying I'm choosing one, but I'll be checking every single one, reading about them & weighting the pros & cons of each of them(eta: breeds).

ETA- I just read your info in the sub forum Breeds 101

Not for me lol

Edited September 2, 2010 by Kate_Summer

[Nekhbet]

yup dogue de bordeaux ... you just have to really check for reputable breeders for bordeauxs and other mastiffs

[Monah]

but you have to like drewl if you want a masstif

LOL understatement! I have an aquaintance who breeds them and they are soooooo lovely, adorable, just don't forget to keep a towel over your shoulder

As far as I know, the dobe crop ears were never done in Aust., USA does it, not sure what other countries. :D

I agree with Noisy, as I mentioned in an earlier post, if the exercise thing is one of the main concerns, an older dog is a great idea. Of course they still need a fair bit of exercise, but are less likely to suffer (or the human too :D ) if a walk is missed.

Huski, have to mention a young friend has a beagle puppy and I was freaking it would be too hard for him, she is only 10 months now, at his 21st. she (Lola) was incredible, loads of training, she is amazing , I was very clever and wonderful girl!

Of course, Vizslas should be at the TOP of that list if only for their manipulation skills and problem solving!!