wantaneo Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 For what seems like forever i have wanted a Neapolitan Mastiff, I live with my partner his 2 children and my partners 11 year old Mastiff X and we have another baby due in 7 months. Before i came to live with my partner he was given a pure mini foxie who constantly dug under the fence (not the breed for my partner to much of a houdini) The last time he did it he got bitten by a snake while he was out and passed. This was upsetting for the kids and especially his best bud the mastiff x, we have eventually decided to get a new dog and after showing my partner the Neapolitans he is in love with them too and we have decided to get one of those specifically a blue. So i began ringing and emailing breeders and am disgusted and frustrated at what i am finding after months of doing this i reached my boiling point this morning after speaking to one so called reputable breeder who i found through one of the councils. I have asked all the questions to each person i have contacted health none really want to answer, one in particular i asked a health question she said she couldnt tell me about the stud i would need to contact the stud owner so i did the stud owner was not registered he was mearly a backyard job which means no papers or atleast real ones for the pups. Another who informed me that breeding them was AWESOME (her words) because this is how much you charge for a pup which means i make this much of each pup so i should get a female that was in response to me asking about males instead of females and she only had females left. I am at my wits end and am about to go overseas and spend alot more money just to get the pup i want because the only person who has come across to me as reputable is a woman from america who spent an hour answering every little question i had about her bitch, the stud and the pups. How can i find a REAL ethical reputable breeder in australia so i do not have to go over seas, I have gone through the state councils, I never answer an add in the paper or one of those puppy webistes full of mixes i have gone through dogzonline and other such pure bred websites but im coming up with nuthing but rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 I find that hard to believe that you are coming up with nothing but rubbish. The breeder that I would recommend advertises on DOL, their dogs are health tested, farm raised and have great temperaments. You may however, have to wait for a puppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifi Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 There are some very good breeders who advertise on the dogzonline breed pages. One question, is your partner's mastif X desexed ? If not, that could be a stopping point for an ethical breeder who is worried about the possibility of X breeding. It does take time to get a breed like this, a good breeder will want to get to know you first to ensure you are the right family to take on a mastiff breed, in terms of being able to train, raise, house and be responsible for a guarding breed. And as readysetgo said, it can be a long wait for a good pup from an ethical breeder. fifi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantaneo Posted August 19, 2010 Author Share Posted August 19, 2010 There are some very good breeders who advertise on the dogzonline breed pages.One question, is your partner's mastif X desexed ? If not, that could be a stopping point for an ethical breeder who is worried about the possibility of X breeding. It does take time to get a breed like this, a good breeder will want to get to know you first to ensure you are the right family to take on a mastiff breed, in terms of being able to train, raise, house and be responsible for a guarding breed. And as readysetgo said, it can be a long wait for a good pup from an ethical breeder. fifi I tried three who where uncontactable (tired quite a few times over a a few weeks) couldnt get hold of them and i wont mention the names of the other two but one did have a litter ready the other was due for a litter soon. He is desexed im a firm believing in desexing that and i dont want to deal with a litter of puppies i just want one anyway i would prefer a boy. I attempt to let the breeder know about me on the phone but they arnt very interested in where the puppies going. I am willing to wait for a puppy because im quite choosy about where i want the dog to come from i want to know the health of both bitch and stud i want to know bloodlines not because i dont want a puppy without any history of probs cause thats asking the impossible but because i wanna know what im getting. I wont buy a new appliance without searching for most of the times a few weeks but on occasions months so i definetly wont by anything living without having that sort of knowledge. I know there is still one more breeder on DOL who i have not attempted to contact and the three i couldnt get hold of but seriously with all of the conversations i have had i just dont want another one because i wont be able to hold my tongue after this mornings effort that person was the next one my list this morning but after the first i couldnt believe what i was hearing this person also only had female left and when i was talking to her she seemed ok to begin with then the convo went on and i was seeing cracks in her story then when i said well i really want a boy can i leave you my contact details for any upcoming litters she offered to severely discount her female if i took it i said no. My question is more is there a nationally database because the state councils seem to have quite a few of these, I just didnt ask properly because i was cranky and frustrated at how unbelievable it has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelsun Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 I know of three Neo breeders in Victoria and can find out about more in NSW and SA. There certainly are a few around so that you wouldn't have to import. You are aware that the lifespan of this breed isn't the best on average? (thinking of the kids reacting to losing a dog again) Were you also aware of the special needs this breed can require for the simple things like eye care, and skin care? They are a nice breed in many ways, but seeing them and falling for them, and living with them are two different things. (yes I give this speech to everyone as it applies for every breed out there) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 There is no " national data base " and the breeders availble through the state Canine Councils are only those who pay to advertise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Is there a Neo club in Australia? Contact them, they should be able to point you in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifi Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 http://www.mastinoau.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwaY Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 I tried three who where uncontactable (tired quite a few times over a a few weeks) couldnt get hold of them and i wont mention the names of the other two but one did have a litter ready the other was due for a litter soon. I find it hard to believe that you are coming up with nothing but rubbish, after all you have only contacted or attempted to contact only 5 of the 47 listed on DOL. http://www.dogzonline.com.au/breeds/breede...tan-mastiff.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizT Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Just as Breeders need to exercise patience with the many buyers who ring/email.... so does the buyer need to be patient with breeders. Don't despair...it's a conversation you'll soon get down pat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 (edited) I agree with others you have only contacted a small handful of breeders . As for going oversea's depends how much you wish to spend on a pet pup?? As you say your talking to a lady in the US.The dog couldn't come out till atleast 9 mths i think it is(maybe 6 mths) to meet testing requirements. The dog will then be a hefty puppy so shipping expenses will be top end . Are you happy to get a dog that age?? Price wise i would look around $9/10000 if not more Edited August 21, 2010 by showdog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kustali Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Don't be disheartened by the few breeders you have contacted, do keep trying and contact every breeder you can find and talk talk talk, something will come along....and patience is a virtue! I was in the same boat a few years back when looking for a Mastiff...so i understand where you're coming from. Is this puppy you are looking for just going to be a pet or do you want to possibly show or breed? It is expensive importing, put away 10 k for something from the U.S....dear to buy plus the flight cost and quarantine. But if that is what you really want to do, go for it, and i really mean that because i have two import dogs here myself Would be much easier to find something in Aus though, i'm sure there is a breeder out there for you that will have something available sometime. All the best Hannah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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