Wellington Shire Council In Sale, Gippsland, Victoria

[toy dog]

I'm positive that I'm not on the side of the farmers. I'm not on the side of most farmers in general.

With that said, the reason that I chose to debate the topic with you is that I think that if you consider what I'm telling you, it will give you a better angle of attack for dealing with council. By showing you every possible angle that they can throw at you (and prepare you for it (because you will have already debated it with me )) then you are better equipped to argue harder and more to the point.

joel, i have been liaising with councillors and animal groups now for about close to 16 years and most of what you brought up, i have already come across talking to councillors and getting their views and attitudes so i was aware of all what you said already.

but thank you for your input.

Edited August 11, 2010 by toy dog

[toy dog]

Why is it worse to treat a dog poorly than any other animal? Because we have been conditioned to think that dogs are seperate from other animals

im sorry i had to answer this one, dogs are separate from chooks, pigs, cows and other farmed animals for food for humans! do you have pigs, cows and chooks in your bed on the sofa or in the car???????? some people do have pigs as pets but again, 1 in 3 house holds own a dog so there is no comparison what-so-ever.

still don't know what you are getting at.

Just another stirrer, I think. My point was that this is a DOG forum, not a chook or pig forum, we are interested in CANINE welfare. Because one or another type of animal is raised in poor conditions does not make it right for all animals.

i was beginning to think that. and me being gullible enough answered. they stir me up at work alot and then when i always answer they all laugh. :p oh well......it brought the people in here to read my thread, im happy about that.

[mortonplace]

They think were all the same..l was told this last year tof his after the council got bombarded with letters and raids and to be honest it cheezed me off

i never took notice of this bit you wrote. i think it would have been the ranger Gary at the time to be the one who told you? the same person who doubledup as a traffic officer in wellington so no he would not have known the difference. so why didn't you plead your case to them to let them know of the difference when you had contact with them

now a kevin burge is the ranger and service officer/traffic officer, the same person who went to the RSPCA forum on puppy farms and stated the farms in gippsland are bad and we monitor them, the same speal he gave me a few days ago on email. it was then brought to the attention that wellington have not been doing audit reports on these farms for 5 years as all the pages were BLANK.

i have not had a chance to have a dialogue with this new service/traffic officer replacing gary so i don't know what his views are.

but i do know one thing, whoever told you that in wellington shire are making themselves out to be very ignorant and even a little bit uneducated if they think just because the farms operate in this area and people dont want them complain, that that is directly related to a person that is registered with dogsvictoria.

they have dogsvictoria on the registrations so they are aware of our organisation.

They have now after the lenths i went to i will PM you and tell you what i have to say,as i dont want it on a pulic forum

[toy dog]

They think were all the same..l was told this last year tof his after the council got bombarded with letters and raids and to be honest it cheezed me off

i never took notice of this bit you wrote. i think it would have been the ranger Gary at the time to be the one who told you? the same person who doubledup as a traffic officer in wellington so no he would not have known the difference. so why didn't you plead your case to them to let them know of the difference when you had contact with them

now a kevin burge is the ranger and service officer/traffic officer, the same person who went to the RSPCA forum on puppy farms and stated the farms in gippsland are bad and we monitor them, the same speal he gave me a few days ago on email. it was then brought to the attention that wellington have not been doing audit reports on these farms for 5 years as all the pages were BLANK.

i have not had a chance to have a dialogue with this new service/traffic officer replacing gary so i don't know what his views are.

but i do know one thing, whoever told you that in wellington shire are making themselves out to be very ignorant and even a little bit uneducated if they think just because the farms operate in this area and people dont want them complain, that that is directly related to a person that is registered with dogsvictoria.

they have dogsvictoria on the registrations so they are aware of our organisation.

They have now after the lenths i went to i will PM you and tell you what i have to say,as i dont want it on a pulic forum

hi mortonplace, i look forward to your PM.

regards

toy dog

Edited August 11, 2010 by toy dog