Pets Paradise Advertising For Puppies

[jacqui835]

Went to get the groceries today, and although I shouldn't, I can never resist going past the pet stores and looking at all the puppies. Anyway, today I noticed a sign posted on the puppy window, saying something along the lines of, "has your four legged friend recently had babies? We buy puppies and kittens and find them great new homes".

Just made me really mad, because I can think of several people I see down at the park who would see that sign and decide on that basis to breed, people who have been considering it for a while but now that would just make it so much easier as they would feel like the finding homes for the puppies has been taken care of... It's bad enough that pet shops sell any breed to anyone without properly informing them, but now they seem to be condoning and even encouraging random pet owners to breed their pets for money :s

[HeavyPaws]

Our local has a worse one "Designer puppies wanted!" with a list below of suggested """"breeds"""" they're looking for. Great ones, too, Germaweilers.

Anyone up for the implications of taking home a BYB German Shep X Rotty with no social skills?

Every time I see it I think if this isn't encouraging it, what is? It's like giving people a set manual of which breeds to mate so they can get money out of it.

They disgust me and I don't see how they can keep doing it. WHY can't they see that it's wrong? It's so obvious! So, so obvious!

[Remarkabull]

'They' don't care if it's wrong or right 'they' care about making money! I once worked for a well known pet shop chain ( the store I worked at didn't sell live animals at the time) and IMO all that mattered was $$$$$.

[Simply Grand]

I think this thread may be shut down, being a discussion about deliberate cross breeding BUT for what it's worth, I think education is the best weapon in this situation, particularly while it remains legal to sell animals in pet shops.

I make sure I tell my friends/acquaintences/anyone who will listen that buying from pet shops is bad and why - conditions pups are bred under and brought up in, age they are taken from their mum, don't know what you're getting, overpriced etc - and that the best thing to do, no matter what pet you're getting, is to go to the breeder's location, see their set up, meet the parent dogs and talk to the breeder. Make sure you're comfortable with all those things before you choose your pet.

Without demand, there would be no supply in pet shops, and many people (pet buyers) want to do the right thing, just don't know any better

[Parkeyre]

I would make a new poster saying something along the lines of "PETSHOP PUPPIES = Quantity before quality" or something and slap it over top of it.

[Tatelina]

Went to get the groceries today, and although I shouldn't, I can never resist going past the pet stores and looking at all the puppies. Anyway, today I noticed a sign posted on the puppy window, saying something along the lines of, "has your four legged friend recently had babies? We buy puppies and kittens and find them great new homes".

Just made me really mad, because I can think of several people I see down at the park who would see that sign and decide on that basis to breed, people who have been considering it for a while but now that would just make it so much easier as they would feel like the finding homes for the puppies has been taken care of... It's bad enough that pet shops sell any breed to anyone without properly informing them, but now they seem to be condoning and even encouraging random pet owners to breed their pets for money :s

Our local has a worse one "Designer puppies wanted!" with a list below of suggested """"breeds"""" they're looking for. Great ones, too, Germaweilers.

Anyone up for the implications of taking home a BYB German Shep X Rotty with no social skills?

Every time I see it I think if this isn't encouraging it, what is? It's like giving people a set manual of which breeds to mate so they can get money out of it.

They disgust me and I don't see how they can keep doing it. WHY can't they see that it's wrong? It's so obvious! So, so obvious!

So...what did you guys do about it? Apart from venting online...?

[Skitch]

Went to get the groceries today, and although I shouldn't, I can never resist going past the pet stores and looking at all the puppies. Anyway, today I noticed a sign posted on the puppy window, saying something along the lines of, "has your four legged friend recently had babies? We buy puppies and kittens and find them great new homes".

Just made me really mad, because I can think of several people I see down at the park who would see that sign and decide on that basis to breed, people who have been considering it for a while but now that would just make it so much easier as they would feel like the finding homes for the puppies has been taken care of... It's bad enough that pet shops sell any breed to anyone without properly informing them, but now they seem to be condoning and even encouraging random pet owners to breed their pets for money :s

Our local has a worse one "Designer puppies wanted!" with a list below of suggested """"breeds"""" they're looking for. Great ones, too, Germaweilers.

Anyone up for the implications of taking home a BYB German Shep X Rotty with no social skills?

Every time I see it I think if this isn't encouraging it, what is? It's like giving people a set manual of which breeds to mate so they can get money out of it.

They disgust me and I don't see how they can keep doing it. WHY can't they see that it's wrong? It's so obvious! So, so obvious!

So...what did you guys do about it? Apart from venting online...?

What can they do about it, really? Unfortunately what the petshop is doing isn't illegal. Sure you could make complaints and sign a few petitions.. but at the end of the day, until the people at the top realize this is a major problem there is nothing to stop petshops acting in this way.

[Tatelina]

So...what did you guys do about it? Apart from venting online...?

What can they do about it, really? Unfortunately what the petshop is doing isn't illegal. Sure you could make complaints and sign a few petitions.. but at the end of the day, until the people at the top realize this is a major problem there is nothing to stop petshops acting in this way.

Voice their opinions to the people who are linked to the 'people at the top'.

There is power in numbers. If every time a DOLer made a personal comment or complaint, sent a letter to the management, made a phone call to the boss of a company or organisation...that eventual tap-tap-tapping away would make a hairline fracture, that could eventual break.

Whinging, moaning and complaining here only serves to make us feel better (and I know because I've done it before here as well!) where as action gives satisfaction.

Companies are simply providing for what the customer wants...how are they to know that the customer is slowly becoming more aware of issues and ethics with this sort of behaviour if no one stands up to let them know?

[WreckitWhippet]

You've just given them some more free advertising

[casowner]

I understand peoples emotive hatred of pet shops but what equally annoys me is that people don't mind unsuspecting families visiting their local shelter and feeling sorry for the cute, unsocialised, undernourished GSD x Rotti (as per other example) or any other cross and taking it home. Just because it is sitting behind bars, rather than glass doesn't make it any more appropriate to be purchased on the spur of the moment. And yes I have been there when the families have come in for a Sunday drive and left with a completely unsuitable new pet only for it to come back 6 months later when the novelty wears off.

One positive step in the new SA Legislations is the following - This covers Shelters and Pet Shops (am going to check about breeders though)

That the information to be provided by vendors should be expanded to include the following requirements:

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any particular species requirements or characteristics, which may impact on an animal’s welfare and suitability in the intended home;

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any particular breed requirements or characteristics which may impact on an animal’s welfare and suitability in the intended home;

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any individual requirements or characteristics such as the reason that a pervious owner is selling or has surrendered the animal;

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that the vendor must not misrepresent the breed of the animal and must not withhold any pertinent information; and

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that this information be provided to all purchasers.

This may help prevent places from misrepresenting breeds if say for example a store sells a pup as a purebred Sharpei and it is clearly a cross, but proving it may be difficult unless DNA testing is done.

Edited August 5, 2010 by casowner

[DerRottweiler]

Went to get the groceries today, and although I shouldn't, I can never resist going past the pet stores and looking at all the puppies. Anyway, today I noticed a sign posted on the puppy window, saying something along the lines of, "has your four legged friend recently had babies? We buy puppies and kittens and find them great new homes".

Just made me really mad, because I can think of several people I see down at the park who would see that sign and decide on that basis to breed, people who have been considering it for a while but now that would just make it so much easier as they would feel like the finding homes for the puppies has been taken care of... It's bad enough that pet shops sell any breed to anyone without properly informing them, but now they seem to be condoning and even encouraging random pet owners to breed their pets for money :s

Our local has a worse one "Designer puppies wanted!" with a list below of suggested """"breeds"""" they're looking for. Great ones, too, Germaweilers.

Anyone up for the implications of taking home a BYB German Shep X Rotty with no social skills?

Every time I see it I think if this isn't encouraging it, what is? It's like giving people a set manual of which breeds to mate so they can get money out of it.

They disgust me and I don't see how they can keep doing it. WHY can't they see that it's wrong? It's so obvious! So, so obvious!

So...what did you guys do about it? Apart from venting online...?

;) Too true.

[Skitch]

So...what did you guys do about it? Apart from venting online...?

What can they do about it, really? Unfortunately what the petshop is doing isn't illegal. Sure you could make complaints and sign a few petitions.. but at the end of the day, until the people at the top realize this is a major problem there is nothing to stop petshops acting in this way.

Voice their opinions to the people who are linked to the 'people at the top'.

There is power in numbers. If every time a DOLer made a personal comment or complaint, sent a letter to the management, made a phone call to the boss of a company or organisation...that eventual tap-tap-tapping away would make a hairline fracture, that could eventual break.

Whinging, moaning and complaining here only serves to make us feel better (and I know because I've done it before here as well!) where as action gives satisfaction.

Companies are simply providing for what the customer wants...how are they to know that the customer is slowly becoming more aware of issues and ethics with this sort of behaviour if no one stands up to let them know?

Well of course, your points are very valid.. but what's to say these people haven't done these things already? I've been sending letters and talking to people about it for years.. it's sad that things still remain the same (although.. I think we're SLOWLY moving in the right direction?). I have no doubt the eventual 'tap-tap-tapping' will do the trick eventually but I also dont think there's anything wrong with whinging, moaning and complaining about the sale of live animals, especially puppies on a forum such as this.

[toy dog]

its better if we try and educate people the consumer, i usually tell anyone i can and they say i had no idea and i put them off buying a puppy in a petshop or from a farm online. its how many people you can tell and the word spreads. they reckon that slowly but surely the public are being made aware, look at the RSPCA campaign about puppy farms in melbourne, dont' know if it was anywhere else? but it had a great impact many didn't know they existed until they saw the billboards at train stations.

i like to get people on here to get behind me and then bombard wellington shire with emails that they can't handle every year. i've just been emailing all the councillors there and i got two responses, one lady councillor told me do i eat eggs and drink milk? i responded by saying that pet dogs adn breeding them can't be compared to livestock. she responded again by telling me that she is dead against farms but then goes onto say that farms are just animal agriculture and what is wrong with having them like battery hens. another one wrote back they all forwarded onto the services officer at wellington shire who is a traffic officer as well as a dog ranger etc. and he told me that they check on the 14 farms that they have in wellington shire, this is an all out lie as we have a permit to house 12 showdogs (25 years we've had a permit) and not one person has ever been out to check on us adn they didn't even come out to approve the application!!!! lol the services officer/ranger admitted at the RSPCA puppy farm forum that he cannot check on all the farms and nothing has been written in their audits for 5 years, yet they sent me an email to explain to me that the farms are checked on and spot checks are done. so they are all liars!!!!

one of the farms is operated by my cousin's ex wife who for years has been trying to get our chihuahuas to breed to buggery. we always use to tell her that our chihuahuas were a thousand dollars each so then she gets someone to ring us up for her to try to nab one of our dogs. down in this area we always sell our dogs desexed as its puppy farm central down here.

so everyone in wellington shire from the vets to the farmers to the council are lining their pockets with money. lying cheating and telling the public untruths to get them off their backs and deter them from the real story that is going on down there.

but yes i have been writing complaint letters to council for years i even had a media fight with one puppy farmer in the press about 16 years ago when i lived in this area.

i know of alot of locals who are dead against these farms in our area.

i spoke to another councillor that was the mayor about a year ago and i got him to re-think alot of stuff about genetics in dogs and why its not a good idea to have farms. so slowly but surely i am getting in their ears.

i need all your help to bombard council once again about their farms, i found out from a good source that is right in on the action down in this area that there are 14 FARMS that council get money from. the one that is operated by my cousin's ex-wife has a farm with dogs sitting on wire and she openly admits to knocking the pups she doesn't want or dogs on the head with a hammer.

mostly farmers and families of farmers so they don't think this is cruel just necessary. heard some horror stories of what they do to animals and its not pretty. saw footage of the main farm which is the biggest in australia who breeds up 1500 pups a year tehy advertise in the local paper often and recently had an open day where most people complain of the conditions the animals were kept in (because the council doesn't check but claims they do!) most dogs were on sand, in tin sheds, they invited the ALV to be there in the paper then when ALV accepted they paniced and sent them letters to keep them away it was all a ploy to get on the public's good side.

links to get everyone started. help me PLEASE?????? there is power in people numbers. last time we did this the shire was complaining of too many letters. lol it puts the pressure on them and it does work it is not hopeless.

stop puppy farms please scroll down to end and you will see links,

Animal liberation Victoria website

wellington shire councillors

if i can think of any other links i will let you know.

[toy dog]

this is from the wellington shire website

mayor of sale

c/o 70 Foster St

SALE 3850

Mobile: 0427 052 394

[email protected]

deputy mayor

Red Gum Gully", Boundary Road

BRIAGOLONG 3860

Phone (H): 5145 5590

Mobile: 0408 317 308

[email protected]

councillor

22 Buckley Street

YARRAM 3971

Phone (H): 5182 5853

Mobile: 0429 832 657

[email protected]

councillor

P.O Box 124

MAFFRA 3860

Mobile: 0427 052 383

[email protected]

councillor

488 Boundary Rd

BRIAGOLONG 3860

Mobile: 0427 052 385

[email protected]

councillor

51 Temple Street

HEYFIELD 3858

Phone: (H): 5148 2493

Mobile: 0408 541 746

[email protected]

councillor

25 Desailly St

SALE 3850

Phone: (H): 5144 2958

Mobile: 0427 052 378

[email protected]

councillor

18 Harpley Court

LONGFORD 3851

Phone (H): 5149 7021

Mobile: 0458 006 486

[email protected]

4 Merrick Street

STRATFORD 3862

Phone (H): 5145 6094

Mobile: 0448 031 929

[email protected]

[toy dog]

So...what did you guys do about it? Apart from venting online...?

What can they do about it, really? Unfortunately what the petshop is doing isn't illegal. Sure you could make complaints and sign a few petitions.. but at the end of the day, until the people at the top realize this is a major problem there is nothing to stop petshops acting in this way.

Voice their opinions to the people who are linked to the 'people at the top'.

There is power in numbers. If every time a DOLer made a personal comment or complaint, sent a letter to the management, made a phone call to the boss of a company or organisation...that eventual tap-tap-tapping away would make a hairline fracture, that could eventual break.

Whinging, moaning and complaining here only serves to make us feel better (and I know because I've done it before here as well!) where as action gives satisfaction.

Companies are simply providing for what the customer wants...how are they to know that the customer is slowly becoming more aware of issues and ethics with this sort of behaviour if no one stands up to let them know?

Well of course, your points are very valid.. but what's to say these people haven't done these things already? I've been sending letters and talking to people about it for years.. it's sad that things still remain the same (although.. I think we're SLOWLY moving in the right direction?). I have no doubt the eventual 'tap-tap-tapping' will do the trick eventually but I also dont think there's anything wrong with whinging, moaning and complaining about the sale of live animals, especially puppies on a forum such as this.

when we are all whinging and moaning we are telling our families, our workmates our friends and we are spreading the word.

[Parkeyre]

I take down any signage I see for petshops and farmers.

If i can't take it down; I'm tempted to enlighten others on just where the pups come from, or what type of health issue awaits them.

[haylz27]

That's not surprising really. But our local pet shops don't sell puppies anymore. I was talking with the lady there a while ago and she said that they had all been moved to another store and that they were no longer selling puppies...? I haven't been past there in a month or so so idk if this is the case still.

[HeavyPaws]

Who said I haven't done anything about it, or that anyone else hasn't done anything about it?

How would you know?

In fact I've sent many, many emails and letters to various sources, discussed the petshop problem with as many people as I can, I even bring it up if anyone stops me to pat Moon as ask where she came from.

I've emailed and phoned newspapers, tv shows and magazines about their articles supporting designer or petshop dogs. I've promoted rescue and responsible breeders whereever and whenever I can. Not to mention the chain emails I send and threads I make on other forums telling the truth about petshops.

Most of my family would rather die than consider a petshop puppy because of all the photos and facts I've shown them.

I think I'm allowed to say I don't like it still happening when I've tried so damn hard to make it stop.

It's a drop in the ocean.

Every letter I send, there's 100 puppies being bought from petshops across the country.

I see no end to it, and it disheartens me.

How dare you judge me without knowing a thing about what I have or have not done.

So, how many petshops have you personally closed down?

I thought so.

[Red Fox]

I would make a new poster saying something along the lines of "PETSHOP PUPPIES = Quantity before quality" or something and slap it over top of it.

Or you could stick a DOL sticker over the top :D

[Tatelina]

Who said I haven't done anything about it, or that anyone else hasn't done anything about it?

How would you know?

In fact I've sent many, many emails and letters to various sources, discussed the petshop problem with as many people as I can, I even bring it up if anyone stops me to pat Moon as ask where she came from.

I've emailed and phoned newspapers, tv shows and magazines about their articles supporting designer or petshop dogs. I've promoted rescue and responsible breeders whereever and whenever I can. Not to mention the chain emails I send and threads I make on other forums telling the truth about petshops.

Most of my family would rather die than consider a petshop puppy because of all the photos and facts I've shown them.

I think I'm allowed to say I don't like it still happening when I've tried so damn hard to make it stop.

It's a drop in the ocean.

Every letter I send, there's 100 puppies being bought from petshops across the country.

I see no end to it, and it disheartens me.

How dare you judge me without knowing a thing about what I have or have not done.

So, how many petshops have you personally closed down?

I thought so.

So...what did you guys do about it? Apart from venting online...?

I asked.

You answered.

Congratulations.