bommy Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 (edited) HI everyone, Well we have had a weekend of tears, molly's bloodwork has finally come in. She has Neospora. Biopsies have also shown that she has multi cell tumors over her body now, (4 weeks ago when we first started testing to see what was wrong they were clear of any cancerous cells and we had no idea what was wrong) We have been given a maximum of 6mths together. As Molly has had no exposure to fecal matter, or placental matter, we are of the belief that she has detracted the Neospora from her previous diet of BARF. Which given that neospora is transported as Cattle and Bovine animals being the major host with dogs as the secondary host. I fed my dogs raw human grade beef which was generally chest frozen for 2-3 days prior to feeding, she would ocassionally get the odd fresh steak. Please be careful if you are feeding an older or ill dog barf, if their immunity is low then the risks of contracting Neospora from infected meat is higher. Jacqui Edited May 23, 2005 by bommy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 How very sad that you have had to have this news . But unless Im mistaken the tumors arent caused by the neospora ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffyluv Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 I am so sorry to hear that Molly is sick... Just enjoy the time you have left together. Jodie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bommy Posted January 23, 2005 Author Share Posted January 23, 2005 How very sad that you have had to have this news . But unless Im mistaken the tumors arent caused by the neospora ? Thats right steve, sorry what I was meaning is that if you have an ill dog the chances of them developing Neospora is heightened due to their low immune system, (especially in middleaged dogs). Not that neospora will cause them to get cancer, its the other way around, if a dog is ill they can develop the neospora when fed the infected meat. Jacqui Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shadowboxer Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 So sorry to hear such wretched news. Treasure every day with her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LittlePixie Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 I'm so, so sorry Jacqui. Thinking of you and your Molly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bommy Posted January 23, 2005 Author Share Posted January 23, 2005 Thanks guys, Our plan at this stage is to enjoy every moment & when the time comes to be brave enough to say goodbye & let her pass on to the bridge to join chief with as much dignity as possible. Jacqui Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prydenjoy Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 I am so sorry to hear Jaqui. Treasure every second with her, make sure she knows she is the most special thing in this world, and at least she will leave this world a very happy dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katetk Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Sorry to hear about Molly, Jacqui. My thoughts are with you, enjoy every moment with your girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbleGirl Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 I sent you a pm Bommy :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scales of Justice Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Now I know why you were having a bad day!!! Sorry to hear about Molly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aatainc Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 So sorry, thank you for the timely reminder. I hope that your vet is wrong and that you have longer - but if not - that you have the strength to say goodbye when she's ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bommy Posted January 26, 2005 Author Share Posted January 26, 2005 Thanks guys, Every day is different, some days she wants to eat other days she doesnt & I sit there & hand feed her, lucky the kids understand she is sick & needs her own mummytime as well. Jacqui Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fido Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 So sorry, Jacqui....I hope the time you have left together is very special...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aatainc Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 Bommy, sorry to bother you while you must be so upset - but I have a question. Someone else has asked me about neospora and I think you will have the answer. Above you stated that the multi-celled tumours were not caused by the neospora. So I'm wondering, what are the effects of neospora? Is the fact that she has it contributed to her short time left with you? Or is it just the cancer? All I need to know is what symptoms and long term effects there are of neospora in dogs. Thank you - and I hope you're feeling better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romanysky Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 so sorry to hear about molly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bommy Posted January 28, 2005 Author Share Posted January 28, 2005 Aatanic, Okay details of Molly's neospora: Rapid/laboured Breathing (for a while we put this down to our tropical climat) Lethargy (again put down to the heat) a bunny hop gait when she did move stiffness in her walk refusal to climb into/out of the car avoiding any activity at all even ball chasing stopped jumping of things (ie lounge to floor she just slithers now) a loss of appetite weight loss 20% of her body weight in a short period. Her back started to roach When we realised it wasnt the heat, we thought pneumonia but the tests came back clear, then we thought cancer, had biopsies & aspirations done & the came back clear as well with the only abnormality as being a high liver count Then I spoke to someone who mentioned the article in an old Boxer mag that spoke of neospora, that is when I went in & requested we test specifically for the disease, the vets did IgA & IgMs & sent them away the titres as I mentioned elsewhere came back at 1:2500, considering elsewhere they traditionally start treatment at 1:125. When we started Molly on the traetment for the Neospora which was as soon as i asked could this be it she had a pick up in about 48-72 hrs, she has stopped losing weight & is able to maintain it. The cancer they have given us 3-6mths with, the neospora will take her earlier if we are not successful in treating it. Sorry got to run the kids are killing each other Jacqui Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bommy Posted January 28, 2005 Author Share Posted January 28, 2005 okay back, At this stage it is believed that a dog if caught early enough can be treated & survive neospora however if exposed to it again could have relapses or may end up immune, it varies from dog to dog a bit like how most ppl when they get chickenpox as a kid should not get it again yet some people do get it again.. The roached back will stay. We are using trisaprim & diaprim in conjunction to treat the neospora, the big side effect here is that you cant use any other drugs (it is preffered not to) whilst treating for that. I hope I have answered your question We speak to the specialist again this afternoon/tomorrow so I will have more answres for you then if you want to put down any other queries you have I will see if I can get answers for you. Jacqui Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 i am so sorry jacqui. They become such a vital part of our lives it is such a shock to find out they are not going to be around forever. My thoughts are with you an molly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemibabe Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 Sorry to hear about your beloved Molly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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