m-j Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 (edited) Hi A friend of mine has a problem when her dog is in the out of sight stays her dog fidgets and whines. The dog, as I said, doesn't do this in training but she is either with dogs she knows or she has been in class with the dogs she is doing the stays with long enough to become accustomed to them and not worry. The problem is in the trial ring when she needs to stay with completely strange dogs. I'm just wondering if anyone has any suggestions for this problem. cheers M-J Edited August 1, 2010 by m-j Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedazzledx2 Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 It sounds as though the dog hasn't generalised it beyond the training situation. Also separation anxiety could be at play here also. Is this in out of sight stays or Novice? HiA friend of mine has a problem when her dog is in the out of sight stays her dog fidgets and whines. The dog, as I said, doesn't do this in training but she is either with dogs she knows or she has been in class with the dogs she is doing the stays with long enough to become accustomed to them and not worry. The problem is in the trial ring when she needs to stay with completely strange dogs. I'm just wondering if anyone has any suggestions for this problem. cheers M-J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-j Posted August 2, 2010 Author Share Posted August 2, 2010 It is in Open out of sight stays. She was fine through CCD and CD but as soon as the handler goes she starts the fidgeting and whining. She hasn't broken but is loosing points, which has blown some really good scores. I'm not actually sure how many Open trials she has been in, but apparently it is getting worse. cheers M-J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigsaw Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Can someone come in and reward the dog (if it's trained that way) while the owner is out of sight when the dog is not whining or fidgeting. You might need to rebuild the duration and distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedazzledx2 Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 When training stays I go for duration and distraction before distance. She may have missed a step and jumped ahead before the dog was ready. I would go back to duration and distraction in close with high value rewards. See if she can find as many different confident, safe dogs to do stays next to and go in and reward frequently before the dog gets anxious so that she is only rewarding good stable stays. For out of sight stays I usually go out of sight only briefly and go back and reward and leave again. Yo yo it around always ensuring the dog is safe and stable. It is in Open out of sight stays. She was fine through CCD and CD but as soon as the handler goes she starts the fidgeting and whining. She hasn't broken but is loosing points, which has blown some really good scores. I'm not actually sure how many Open trials she has been in, but apparently it is getting worse.cheers M-J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedazzledx2 Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Good idea Jigsaw. The 'judge' could reward from a pretend clipboard randomly only when the dog is quiet and stable. Can someone come in and reward the dog (if it's trained that way) while the owner is out of sight when the dog is not whining or fidgeting. You might need to rebuild the duration and distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-j Posted August 2, 2010 Author Share Posted August 2, 2010 Thanks for the great suggestions I will pass them on. cheers M-J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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