Breeding Rights To Kennels.

[Dee_al]

Just a question, coz I got asked the same thing today but didn't no the answer. If you buy a puppy from a reg breeder and they say that because the pup has good lines, once the pup passes all health checks and turns out to be a good example of the breed, they request the use of him the once. Would the owners receive any payment for the kennel using the dog?

[Parkeyre]

It depends on the agreement.

many pups are sold on teh condition that they return for a litter.

Who is paying for the dog? was the dog reduced in price, what about paying for health checks?

If it's the breeder forking out for the health tests, and they gave you the pup, then I don't think they should have to pay the buyer.

But if the health testing was by the buyer, and the buyer paid full price, the breeder should Lease the dog and pay for it.

[Dee_al]

Apparently the pup was full price and the breeder doesn't want the dog exactly, they want the dog to have semen collected.

[Parkeyre]

Apparently the pup was full price and the breeder doesn't want the dog exactly, they want the dog to have semen collected.

Hmm. Who paid for it's health testing?

[Dee_al]

Puppy is only baby, so no checks have been done yet..8

[Bilbo Baggins]

Apparently the pup was full price and the breeder doesn't want the dog exactly, they want the dog to have semen collected.

Hmm. Who paid for it's health testing?

Who is to pay for the health testing???

[Gayle.]

I think the breeder would have to pay for the semen to be collected and the stud fee, plus come to an agreement about how many times the semen can be used.

[SparkyTansy]

If the dog was paid for full price with papers then the owner should receive a stud fee in return for the dog being used... but i'd say it'd only be fair for the owner to pay the health testing... or the breeder pays for health testing but the cost comes off the stud fee.

If the breeder sold the pup on condition or in co-ownership then make sure it's in writing and very clear and concise as to who gets what and who pays for what.

Edited July 29, 2010 by SparkyTansy

[Nevafollo]

All breeders are different and have different ideas of who gets what money or pays what money. Tell your friend to ask the breeder straight up what the conditions are!

[WreckitWhippet]

If the owner agrees to let the breeder use the dog, then the breeder should pay for any and all relevant health testing, the collection and also a stud fee. Unless of course the breeder gives the new owner the puppy, in return for a later collection.

[tdierikx]

The pup in question wouldn't be a blue Stafford by any chance?

T.

[Dee_al]

The pup in question wouldn't be a blue Stafford by any chance?

T.

its not my puppy if thats what your getting at....

[poodlefan]

Easiest way would be for the dog's owner to control everything.

Health test dog

Harvest and store semen

Charge for use of straws.

Owner will need to be CC registered and dog on Main Register. Any other situation means an ongoing relationship between owner and kennels that will need to be managed.

Edited July 29, 2010 by poodlefan

[cowanbree]

Depends on the breeder. In most cases I know of the breeder would use the dog for free but any outside studs would be shared. It would be usual for the breeder to pay for the health testing if it wasn't otherwise going to be done. I think a very small price to pay for a quality dog the breeder might otherwise keep themselves.

[oakway]

Easiest way would be for the dog's owner to control everything.

Health test dog

Harvest and store semen

Charge for use of straws.

Owner will need to be CC registered and dog on Main Register. Any other situation means an ongoing relationship between owner and kennels that will need to be managed.

Wise words there.

[tdierikx]

The pup in question wouldn't be a blue Stafford by any chance?

T.

its not my puppy if thats what your getting at....

Thanks for clarifying - seeing how the other thread has been tootling along... *grin*

T.

[Lucy's mama]

I'm not a breeder or exhibitor, but to me the breeder paying for health testing and getting free use of the dog sounds fair.

[Agility Dogs]

From a non-breeders perspective I am probably dragging this off track a little, but for me it comes back to what the owner wants out of the dog and whether they want to manage an entire animal.

If I had paid for the dog I would not be keeping it entire just so that a breeder can use it. There would have to be a better reason (like health, development etc etc.), but in my case it would not happen because I would be neutering at around 14 months for a boy.

IFF I had decided to keep him entire and the breeder wanted to use him then I would be asking for them to pay for the health testing and any other associate costs. As long as there are no risks to my dog then I woudn't really have an issue with a stud fee one way or the other.

[Dee_al]

She has paid full price for the dog, picks t up in a few weeks. She got an emil stating that in order to receive the full papers the kennels want the right to use semen the once. Apparently she will sign the contract when she picks him up stating she has agreed to this, but she isnt really sure she does agree. She is planning on showing the pup so does need the papers.

[Pepper and Jax]

Then it sounds like more negotiation needs to be done, and if she doesn't agree, then walking away might be the best option. You really have to be comfortable with all the arrangements before signing a contract, or you're in for problems later.