Moselle Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 He is NOT saying that at all! He did not say that the attack on the maltese could have been carried out by "anything." He is not even saying that the attack could have easily been mistaken for a "staffy type." He is saying that the attack could have been carried out by a staffy, mastiff or crossbreed....The word "type" does not figure into his statement at all! Moselle, I fail to understand why: * you'd take a reporters view of what Mr Linke said as gospel - its not like you heard him comment yourself. You don't know what else he said and how selectively he may have been quoted or even misquoted. Anyone who has dealt with media knows what people say and what journalists report don't necessarily match. The fact of the matter is you're interpreting a media report and have no idea about the intent of Mr Linke's words. It doesn't seem to matter to you at all that the local RSPCA did not put the boot into pitbulls. Believe me when I say that your local RSPCA CEO would have done so in steel capped Doc Martins. * you continue to use a second hand report of a statement to infer conclusions that you cannot support. * you are so heated about this. I am not heated about this but I am annoyed given that it is still continuing; I have stipulated time and time again that I am still of the same opinion and that is that I have found Mr. Linke's statement to be incriminatory to the mastiff and staffy, I haven't wavered and also said that I am not about to change my mind! Ever since I started this thread everyone has been jumping up and down and constantly barraging me with questions and wild accusations, namely the one implying that I have a hidden agenda (post written by robbi); gosh what next?? ....how many times do I need to go on repeating myself? And you wonder why I am getting annoyed? One other thing, you are saying that I am wrongly taking a reporter's view of what Mr. Linke said as gospel....I could turn that around and say "how do you know that it was a reporter's view?" Can you actually confirm that it was indeed the reporter who turned things around? Given that Mr. Linke supposedly came on here and said his piece, I would have thought that if indeed his own wording had been misconstrued that he himself would have tried to correct this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moselle Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 All cats have four legs. My dog has four legs, therefore, it must be a cat. my dog breathes, i breathe therefore i must be my dog You need to do some serious growing up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moselle Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 Now leave me the f*** ALONE and get a life and stop turning an innocent question into some kind of saga! Don't play with fire If you can't stand the heat! Your comment stands to confirm even more so what a hypocritical bunch you can be and guess what? I still do NOT agree that the poor staffy or mastiff should take the wrap for the attack on Harry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhou Xuanyao Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Oh, the argument has not been debunked either, LOL. Your argument is not subjective but there is no, and never will be, any conclusive proof so it is never going to be completely debunked, certainly not today on DOL a few days after he made the comments. However, much of your argument can be and has been debunked. I did it in the other thread for one. I showed proof that you agree with what he said. So, the conclusion has to be that you support the suppression of facts. I think people should leave you alone and accept it, but you have to accept where you are wrong aswell. Instead, your saying things that don't make any sense, thats why people are making fun posting examples of logical fallacies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moselle Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 I HAVE SAID MY piece on this and will not be visiting this thread again! Have fun amongst yourselves AMEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 One other thing, you are saying that I am wrongly taking a reporter's view of what Mr. Linke said as gospel....I could turn that around and say "how do you know that it was a reporter's view?" Can you actually confirm that it was indeed the reporter who turned things around? Given that Mr. Linke supposedly came on here and said his piece, I would have thought that if indeed his own wording had been misconstrued that he himself would have tried to correct this! How do I know? Because I've met Mr Linke and spent time specifically discussing the BSL issue with him. That leads me to conclude that I have a better informed view of where he stands on BSL than you do. SK: And the chance that it was a Standard Poodle maquerading as an APBT is zilch! I dunno about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliversmum Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 (edited) One other thing, you are saying that I am wrongly taking a reporter's view of what Mr. Linke said as gospel....I could turn that around and say "how do you know that it was a reporter's view?" Can you actually confirm that it was indeed the reporter who turned things around? Given that Mr. Linke supposedly came on here and said his piece, I would have thought that if indeed his own wording had been misconstrued that he himself would have tried to correct this! How do I know? Because I've met Mr Linke and spent time specifically discussing the BSL issue with him. That leads me to conclude that I have a better informed view of where he stands on BSL than you do. SK: And the chance that it was a Standard Poodle maquerading as an APBT is zilch! I dunno about that. Oh PF...what a perfect way to end......love it!! If that doesn't sum this entire saga up, I don't know what does :p Ed: Cause I can't spell. Edited July 23, 2010 by Shellsboers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fox Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 I am not heated about this but I am annoyed given that it is still continuing; I have stipulated time and time again that I am still of the same opinion and that is that I have found Mr. Linke's statement to be incriminatory to the mastiff and staffy, I haven't wavered and also said that I am not about to change my mind! Ever since I started this thread everyone has been jumping up and down and constantly barraging me with questions and wild accusations, namely the one implying that I have a hidden agenda (post written by robbi); gosh what next?? ....how many times do I need to go on repeating myself? And you wonder why I am getting annoyed? Moselle - It's a debate on a public forum. You can't bloody well argue and stress your point to someone whom AGREES with you. I have my view, you have yours, everyone else has theirs. You seem to be in the minority on this one hence the reason why it seems everyone is "barraging you with questions" SK:And the chance that it was a Standard Poodle maquerading as an APBT is zilch! I dunno about that. Bloody DeShonko dogs Should have known :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 I am not heated about this but I am annoyed given that it is still continuing; I have stipulated time and time again that I am still of the same opinion and that is that I have found Mr. Linke's statement to be incriminatory to the mastiff and staffy, I haven't wavered and also said that I am not about to change my mind! Ever since I started this thread everyone has been jumping up and down and constantly barraging me with questions and wild accusations, namely the one implying that I have a hidden agenda (post written by robbi); gosh what next?? ....how many times do I need to go on repeating myself? And you wonder why I am getting annoyed? Moselle - It's a debate on a public forum. You can't bloody well argue and stress your point to someone whom AGREES with you. I have my view, you have yours, everyone else has theirs. You seem to be in the minority on this one hence the reason why it seems everyone is "barraging you with questions" SK:And the chance that it was a Standard Poodle maquerading as an APBT is zilch! I dunno about that. Bloody DeShonko dogs :p Should have known Ah yes... the Pitoodle.. think I'm on a winner with this mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tassie Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Ah yes... the Pitoodle.. think I'm on a winner with this mix. poodlefan ....... but is it non-allergenic and non-shedding :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Ah yes... the Pitoodle.. think I'm on a winner with this mix. poodlefan ....... but is it non-allergenic and non-shedding :p Naturally.. AND it looks great in those leather studded harnesses that seem to appeal to those who like the Blue Oyster Bar style of dressing their dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casowner Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 I really like the Poopit or Pitpoo, well Christmas is coming up you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conztruct Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 (edited) Gosh - how did I miss all this excitement. I think that this statement doesn't do anything to cast a dim view on any breed at all. Sure, if you focus on one sentence without the context around it - you could make an assumption that maybe he is but making a that assumption when the context is available to refute it is probably something that only the media would be up to, to try and sensationalise something that isn't really that sensational. Sorry Moselle - don't share the same opinion as you on this. You probably didn't quite deserve the battering you copped though....... Edited July 23, 2010 by conztruct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curlybert Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 On the contrary, Conztruct, I think she did deserve it. Doggedly ( ) expressing a fanciful viewpoint in the face of clear evidence that she was wrong, repeatedly criticising a respected RSPCA CEO who opposes BSL, and tweaking her position a number of times when painted into a corner. I admire her tenacity - Moselle was a willing and enthusiastic participant for the most part - but if it ended with her being angry and upset then she has no one to blame but herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moselle Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 On the contrary, Conztruct, I think she did deserve it. Doggedly ( ) expressing a fanciful viewpoint in the face of clear evidence that she was wrong, repeatedly criticising a respected RSPCA CEO who opposes BSL, and tweaking her position a number of times when painted into a corner. I admire her tenacity - Moselle was a willing and enthusiastic participant for the most part - but if it ended with her being angry and upset then she has no one to blame but herself. What "clear evidence" There is no evidence that HE did not make that statement and in fact all seems to prove that he did! You all appear to be siding with him simply because he opposes BSL irrespective of how he puts his foot in his mouth in the process of doing so! I will not have other breeds implicated in dog attacks simply to salvage the reputation of the pitbull. I agree with Mr. Linke wanting to make a stand but he could and SHOULD have adopted a smarter and fairer way to get his point across. Mr. Linke was being completely selfish when making that statement and did not give a damn what the repercussions of such a statement could incur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 I am confused. How do YOU know that the dogs that did this attack aren't Staffordshire Bull Terriers or Mastiffs or Spotted Purple Ducktails? There is no evidence what they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazawayaya Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Pick the pitbull Not sure if anyone has seen this Seems a bit relevent to this stupid thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 I am confused. So am I - what happened to the rest of this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash&elar Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 One other thing, you are saying that I am wrongly taking a reporter's view of what Mr. Linke said as gospel....I could turn that around and say "how do you know that it was a reporter's view?" Can you actually confirm that it was indeed the reporter who turned things around? Given that Mr. Linke supposedly came on here and said his piece, I would have thought that if indeed his own wording had been misconstrued that he himself would have tried to correct this! How do I know? Because I've met Mr Linke and spent time specifically discussing the BSL issue with him. That leads me to conclude that I have a better informed view of where he stands on BSL than you do. SK: And the chance that it was a Standard Poodle maquerading as an APBT is zilch! I dunno about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moselle Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 I am confused.How do YOU know that the dogs that did this attack aren't Staffordshire Bull Terriers or Mastiffs or Spotted Purple Ducktails? There is no evidence what they were. :( Well, I guess that your comment entitles me to pose the same question to you - "how do YOU know that the dogs that did this attack were not pitbulls?" It seems that the mentality around here is a serious case of "what is good for the gander is NOT good for the goose!" LOL So basically, it is okay to blame dog attacks on staffies or mastiffs (without actual proof) and yet the second that the pitbull is mentioned ya all get yourselves in a lather? Ya can jump up and down as much as ya like, I am still stickin to ma guns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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