memphis09 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 hi well this could have been prevented and has been coming for a whilejust after xmas people moved into the house on the corner from us (she brought the house0it is a huge house with a huge yard but no side fence seperating the front yard from the back yard.the front yard has a chain link front fence.Anyway the people who moved in have a neo mastiff dog a xbreed neo mastiff bitch a kelpie and a little bitzer dog.Since they moved in their has been numourous issues with the 2 big dogs at first just barking then they realised they could jump the front fence quite easily and started chasing people and other dogs.where this house is quite a few kids live further down and a few of them have been chased by the two big dogs.People (myself included have resorted to walking around the block or down other streeets to get home and no way knowing would anyone walk their dogs past there. Anyway the ranger had been called their a few times and eventually they were made to put a side fence up anfd what did they use (lattice work )now the male of the dogs is enormoude probably the biggest dog in this town.the bitch isnt much smaller. the lattice work worked for a few weeks then the big boy realised thay could just break straight through it so know thry have wholes all through the lattice work so they decide the easiest thing to do is put plastic garded chairs in front of the wholes in the lattice work like thats going to stop them. these same two dogs had a litter of i think it was 11 pups about 6 weeeks ago when the pups were about 5 weeks old the male killed four of them anyway it all came to a head last sunday night the two dogs got out in the early hrs of the morning went around the block got into a old mans backyard and ripped to pieces hes 12 yr staffy cross,the people across the road heard the commotion and came out to stop and the male dog chased them away. the ranger was called but by the time he got there the dogs had dissapeared and all that wa left was the dead dog. i have been told that the 2 bigs dogs are supposed to be getting put down but they as yet havent been seized as she still has them in the yard i seen them this morning this could have been prevented she knows what they are like the ranger has been there about 3 or 4 times easily now. its not just that they are dog aggressive they are people aggresive as well. how long until some one gets seriously hurt i feel sorry for the man who lost his companion of 12 yrs,that was secured in his yard asleep,i feel sorry for the people that had to witness what happened to this dog i even feel sorry for these two dogs that done it as its in the way they have been raised,if the owners had used half a brain and put better fencing up it may not have come to this As it is one family has lost their companion,two more dfogs it looks like will loose their life,and all because they werent contained properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spottychick Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Oh my god! What a tragic story. That poor little dog, the poor man - just terrible. I wish they'd punish idiots like that more appropriately. It's enough that this all happened to an innocent little dog - imagine if a person had been involved - and it so easily could have happened..... just horrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4DOGZ Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 This is just terrible, so many things wrong here. 1. Dogs Should have been contained properly 2. Owners should have spent time training their dogs 3. Dogs should have been desexed 4. Also Ranger should have done his job properly in the begining People like this should not be allow to own dogs.! If they had of been responsible owners this would not have happened I can't imagine how this poor man is feeling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Poor man that lost his companion. Poor dogs all 'round. Just another example of the existing laws not being enforced, adding fuel to the demands for more laws - which also won't be enforced. Nope, you can't legislate for stupidity but that's why we have laws isn't it - to guide the dimwitted when it should be patently freakin' obvious what needs to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greytmate Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 How very tragic. There is no excuse not to construct proper fencing for your dogs. It's pathetic when people rig up bits of wire and lattice and rubbish and call it a 'fence'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4DOGZ Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 How very tragic.There is no excuse not to construct proper fencing for your dogs. It's pathetic when people rig up bits of wire and lattice and rubbish and call it a 'fence'. This is where the ranger should have come back and forced them to do the job properly, this is partly the rangers fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greytmate Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 How very tragic.There is no excuse not to construct proper fencing for your dogs. It's pathetic when people rig up bits of wire and lattice and rubbish and call it a 'fence'. This is where the ranger should have come back and forced them to do the job properly, this is partly the rangers fault. Fully agree. The council would be partly liable if that had happened here. Because the subordinate laws here are specific about fences needing to be able to contain the dog. If a complaint had been logged and council had not taken steps to ensure compliance, then council is negligent to some extent. (that is how councils have explained it to me) What is the fencing law in this jurisdiction? The old guy with the dead dog should possibly get legal advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memphis09 Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 yep like i said its been a time bomb waiting to happen,im just glad it wasnt a little child trying to walk past with a dog as their is quite a few familys with kids further down in the next block.most people around this area know better to then to walk past the house though we all learn fairly early on to be careful of them . i have personally called the ranger on them twice once when they were out roaming the 2nd time they actually chased my father who had to come back to his place and get his car to drive to mine. its makes me wilder that they know what the dogs are like she herself has admitted the bitch bites people.i really dont know how they expected the lattice to keep the dogs in,the female is bigger enough but the male is enormous a very big dog. i have heard that they are supposed to be getting destroyed but like i said they are still there at the moment so im not sure whats going on another example of how what could have been good dogs with proper socialisation etc are ruined and now looks like they are going to pay with their lives for their owners stupidity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakway Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 How very tragic.There is no excuse not to construct proper fencing for your dogs. It's pathetic when people rig up bits of wire and lattice and rubbish and call it a 'fence'. This is where the ranger should have come back and forced them to do the job properly, this is partly the rangers fault. Come on that's silly talk. Why blame the Ranger he has no control over private fencing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memphis09 Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 our council down here is pretty lax with dogs the ranger we have now is only new and things have become slightly better he has been cracking down on a lot of the stray dogs roaming the streets.imo all dogs should should be contained safely in their own property,regardless of size,temperemnt etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakway Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 our council down here is pretty lax with dogs the ranger we have now is only new and things have become slightly better he has been cracking down on a lot of the stray dogs roaming the streets.imo all dogs should should be contained safely in their own property,regardless of size,temperemnt etc We all agree with those sentiments but there is no accounting for stupidity. I hope the the owner of the dead dog throws the book at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memphis09 Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 i agree i hope he does something about it if it had of been my dogs they killed i would be getting something done about at the end of the day it may have been the dogs that killed the other dog at fault but it was the owners laziness and stupidity that caused it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan's Mum Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 How tragic. That poor man who has lost his own dog He must be distraught Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greytmate Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 How very tragic.There is no excuse not to construct proper fencing for your dogs. It's pathetic when people rig up bits of wire and lattice and rubbish and call it a 'fence'. This is where the ranger should have come back and forced them to do the job properly, this is partly the rangers fault. Come on that's silly talk. Why blame the Ranger he has no control over private fencing. They do if there is a fencing law. Here if a complaint is logged (even if the complaint is that a person believed the fencing would not be able to contain the dog), a ranger will inspect and issue a 'fencing order' that needs to be complied with within 21 days. Otherwise the dog can be seized. Only a properly a constructed fence of a reasonable height will satisfy the fencing order. What is the point of having dog control laws if rangers cannot enforce them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Ranger should have issued an NOI when they first became an issue. They could have then seized the dogs for non compliance, before it resulted in a dead dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I would think that most jurisdictions have enforceable fencing laws. If the owners were told to construct a fence in the first place, it sounds like this place does. The ranger should have checked to see if it complied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 It's NSW an owner can be issued with a Notice to declare, for the act of rushing. People only need fear for their own or the safety of their pets and children and rangers can step in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memphis09 Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 yep i dont know if they got issued a fine but they were made to put the side fence up as when they first moved in it was just one who yard no front separed from the back.like i said kids used to go down this st all the time but you are lucky to see any know most walk down another road on the way home.if it had been my house there is no way i would have put lattice up i think that they were just looking for the cheapest solution . it would have been fine prob for dogs smaller and not as powerful as these two dogs i know this lady is had pics up on a add when she was selling the pups i will try and find a photo of the dad to show everyone he is huge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memphis09 Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 here is pics of the dad and mum dad is the one with cropped ears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memphis09 Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 better pic of mum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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