kimbo83 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 My poor 7 month bully has done something to his back leg. The other day we went out for a hour and came back and he could barely walk. We only noticed it when he woke up. His is caged off in the laundry when we are not home. His leg is so sore that he wont let it touch the ground and walks on 3 legs. We took him to the vet and they examined it with no obvious signs of anything serious. Gave him a injection shot for the pain and if it wasn't better the next day then take him back for xrays. We hoped it would get better over night but unfortunatley it didnt and we took him back. But the vet still could not see anything damaged or moved from the xray and has sent them off to a specialist. We have to wait 48hrs for a reply. Meanwhile i feel so terrible seeing my boy in pain. He is such a lovely playful pup and now he just sits there in pain. I do my best to kept him happy but i can't let him out in case i aggreviate it more. Its a agonising wait now and my wife and i are so sad. Has anyone else had a similar experince and can anyone suggest what has happen to my poor boys leg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash&elar Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 My poor 7 month bully has done something to his back leg. The other day we went out for a hour and came back and he could barely walk. We only noticed it when he woke up. His is caged off in the laundry when we are not home. His leg is so sore that he wont let it touch the ground and walks on 3 legs. We took him to the vet and they examined it with no obvious signs of anything serious. Gave him a injection shot for the pain and if it wasn't better the next day then take him back for xrays. We hoped it would get better over night but unfortunatley it didnt and we took him back. But the vet still could not see anything damaged or moved from the xray and has sent them off to a specialist. We have to wait 48hrs for a reply. Meanwhile i feel so terrible seeing my boy in pain. He is such a lovely playful pup and now he just sits there in pain. I do my best to kept him happy but i can't let him out in case i aggreviate it more. Its a agonising wait now and my wife and i are so sad. Has anyone else had a similar experince and can anyone suggest what has happen to my poor boys leg? My toy poodle puppy hurt his left back leg one night while crated never worked out how he did it and it has never happened again, he would hold it up and not put it down at all though there wasnt anything damaged, after about a week he was fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavsRcute Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 If nothing shows up on the x rays, I would consider either a chiro or trigger point therapist. It may be soft tissue damage or some sort of entrapment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimbo83 Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 i haven't figured out how he damaged his aswell...Maybe the way he slept or moved??? Im really hoping i get the same outcome. Any signs of improvment will make me happy as ill know its at least healing. Only time will tell. Im looking into pet insurance now anyone suggest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimbo83 Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 If nothing shows up on the x rays, I would consider either a chiro or trigger point therapist.It may be soft tissue damage or some sort of entrapment Could you please explain what is trigger point therapist? And if it was soft tissue damage will it heal up on its own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakway Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I would not be walking a 7 months old pup for and hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash&elar Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I would not be walking a 7 months old pup for and hour. The way i read the post was that they went out for an hr and left the pup at home in its penned area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakway Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I would not be walking a 7 months old pup for and hour. The way i read the post was that they went out for an hr and left the pup at home in its penned area? Think your right. I went back and re read it. My apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranVT Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 My bull terrier did damage to his cruciate ligament when he was young, about 6 months old, and he was limping like you explained. They did x-rays and it was a partial tear not full tear, but it still gives him grief, he has to have cartrophen injections when it plays up. He did it by running up and down a fence line, the twist to run back the other way at the end did it I know better now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellz Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Also get the vets to check for an avulsion fracture. These can be hard to see if the damage is only slight but also fit with what you have described. Quite common in small dogs and dogs with heavy muscle mass in their legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moko81 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 My poor 7 month bully has done something to his back leg. The other day we went out for a hour and came back and he could barely walk. We only noticed it when he woke up. His is caged off in the laundry when we are not home. His leg is so sore that he wont let it touch the ground and walks on 3 legs. We took him to the vet and they examined it with no obvious signs of anything serious. Gave him a injection shot for the pain and if it wasn't better the next day then take him back for xrays. We hoped it would get better over night but unfortunatley it didnt and we took him back. But the vet still could not see anything damaged or moved from the xray and has sent them off to a specialist. We have to wait 48hrs for a reply. Meanwhile i feel so terrible seeing my boy in pain. He is such a lovely playful pup and now he just sits there in pain. I do my best to kept him happy but i can't let him out in case i aggreviate it more. Its a agonising wait now and my wife and i are so sad. Has anyone else had a similar experince and can anyone suggest what has happen to my poor boys leg? 2 of our bully's have done the same thing at different times as younger pups. Our bitch injured her leg as she slipped on the tiles, she had slight tissue damage got cartroven (spellchek) shots & needed to be crated for 6wks only being allowed out wen she needed to go toilet & had to be kept on lead at that time. As she grew & her bones became stonger she made a full recovery, we also had to pull weight off her too as she was a bit on the chunky side ;). Our boy had tissue damage from playing a little to rough with our older dogs, had exactly the same symptoms as our bitch. It was alot harder for us to crate him as he just played up the whole time coz he wanted to be with our other dogs. He's coming along fine now. The best thing you can do is keep him crated to the point where he has no room to move, if he has too much free reign in his crate it only makes it worse (believe me it's happened twice for us). If he seems a bit on the chunky side try pull weight off him as that only aids the injury & won't help recovery. Hopefully the vets/specialist can give you a more definitive answer & it don't end up costing alot of $$$$$ in the process, coz it can ;) :D . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackiemad Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 i went through the same kind of thing on the weekend. took my healthy, fit young (3 years old) mini shcnauzer out for some free running at the dog park on friday night (as per normal) and a few hours later, after preparing and eating my dinner, he got out of bed and was dead lame on his right fore. basically after the weekend and monday from hell we found it is his shoulder joint that has some issues with the fluid and a tendon inside it (not from trauma and not from genetics just bad bloody luck) and will require lots of treatment to get right. hopefully he will be able to use and walk/run pain free in the future but it may be something that can flare up again as treatment is not 100% always going to work. currently he is lying next to me, without any pain whotsoever, get him to run a bit or put some pressure on his chest and he can feel it. so please, get the to check joints as well as bones. muscles they can tell pretty quickly because of the quick, painful reaction from the animal, joints are harder. to clear the joint of problems you will need an arthroscope. though perhaps these joint issues are not as common in the hips as the forelimbs? hope your pup gets better soon! you mentioned pet issurance- as you have had an issue before insuring it might not be covered even if you do sign up...? anyhoo, i would be taking him to the specalist ASAP rather than waiting for your vet to get a response and then get back to you. they can tell a lot form seeing the animal and dealing with it in the flesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimbo83 Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 Thanks guys for info and advice. Will certainly limit his movements. Always heard how fragile bullys were but never really understood to now. I don't think I could ever leave him unsupervised while playing. All that mass and muscle is already hard on the joints. I'm looking into pet insurance for any future complications as I'm sure they pop up again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimbo83 Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 I forgot to mention that they localised his pain to his knee joint. Very sore and tender maybe something with the cartilage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackiemad Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 if ti is his knee joint then i'm pretty sure that an anterior cruciate ligament issue is the most likely cause. most vets will tell you the most liekly cause or issue, and usually throw in some other awful ones. they will usually give you a worst case scenario as well to prep you. what did your vet say he thought was the issue? again though, joints are easier to diagnose with an arthroscopy-expensive though they are they will tell you exactly what you are dealing with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimbo83 Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 if ti is his knee joint then i'm pretty sure that an anterior cruciate ligament issue is the most likely cause. most vets will tell you the most liekly cause or issue, and usually throw in some other awful ones. they will usually give you a worst case scenario as well to prep you. what did your vet say he thought was the issue?again though, joints are easier to diagnose with an arthroscopy-expensive though they are they will tell you exactly what you are dealing with. They mentioned something about ligament issue but honestly I don't think they are really even sure. How expensive is this arthroscopy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aziah Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 if ti is his knee joint then i'm pretty sure that an anterior cruciate ligament issue is the most likely cause. most vets will tell you the most liekly cause or issue, and usually throw in some other awful ones. they will usually give you a worst case scenario as well to prep you. what did your vet say he thought was the issue?again though, joints are easier to diagnose with an arthroscopy-expensive though they are they will tell you exactly what you are dealing with. They mentioned something about ligament issue but honestly I don't think they are really even sure. How expensive is this arthroscopy? I hate to sound rude but it shouldn't matter, you need to get to the bottom of the problem... Did the vet rule out cruciate damage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackiemad Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 my dog's arthroscopy on monday was around $1200 - but he had plenty of other stuff done to him on the same day, poor bugger so my overall bill was a lot more than that it is a proper surgery, so anesthetic, monitoring etc will all have to be factored in too. as will having him in for either day or overnight care at the vets. they use keyhole surgery and have a camera on a tube get int here and have a look, they can also tinker with some things inside the joint-so you can diagnose and fix the problem all in the same op if you're lucky. but not all places have the tech to do an arthroscope, which is why i said that juts having the one specialist vet might be more worthwhile, as the specialist will probably have the tech at his practise, your current vet probably won't. price will vary with the practise though... aziah is right though, you need to get to the bottom of it. if you don't take the steps to diagnose it properly then you could waste money treating something that isn't there. xrays won't tell you what is happening with tendons etc inside a joint, just what the bone is doing, all they can rule out is tumours/bone cancer and breaks, and for tiny fractures they might not even show that up. don't panic but do try and get it seen to sooner rather than later, you pup will probably thank you with many happy years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellz Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 if ti is his knee joint then i'm pretty sure that an anterior cruciate ligament issue is the most likely cause. most vets will tell you the most liekly cause or issue, and usually throw in some other awful ones. they will usually give you a worst case scenario as well to prep you. what did your vet say he thought was the issue?again though, joints are easier to diagnose with an arthroscopy-expensive though they are they will tell you exactly what you are dealing with. They mentioned something about ligament issue but honestly I don't think they are really even sure. How expensive is this arthroscopy? Could still be an avulsion fracture. Basically the ligaments tear away from the bone. Usually requires surgery to repair. Had this happen to a dog en route from Australia to the USA. She was fine when she went into the crate at Sydney. Fine when inspected upon entry to the USA. But lame when she arrived at the airport in Michigan. To this day we have no idea what she did to herself but it was a very expensive problem to repair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackiemad Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 bumpity bump how's this dog going? did you get a diagnosis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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