Bringing Pedigree Dogs To Us

[sandgrubber]

I've arrived in California from WA bringing two MainReg bitches. I'm a bit confused about what happens with the paperwork. Does anyone know how it goes. I seem to find:

1. My breeder's prefix won't transfer and if I want to breed, I can register pups without a prefix . . . to get the equivalent you seem to need an established track record with the

AKC

2. WA would like me to get export pedigrees, but the AKC doesn't give a damn about whether I have them and is quite happy with the original main register pedigree.

Btw if anyone has ever wondered, dogs do suffer jet lag. Before the trip I've never seem any of my dogs (Labbies) sleep through dinner time, and they've been pretty restless at night.

[ellz]

From memory you would need to apply for export pedigrees from WA which completes the Aussie end of the papertrail and then just use those to register with the AKC.

You can use pretty much any kennel name to register your litters in the USA provided the name you use hasn't already been registered by another party, which is possible, although not generally likely. A friend of mine just decided upon her kennel name, started using it like buggery and satisfied the AKC registration criteria which is pretty rigorous.

[angelsun]

You will need the export pedigree/registration to send to the AKC. (They don't understand the difference, to them one is the same as the other, but....if you go to register this dog in Canada, you would need export one) You will also need to take two photos (one side, one front) and fill out the correct form which is 'registration of foreign born dogs' On that form (email me if you want me to send it to you) it will ask you for sire/dam information and registration numbers. Your details and the breeders details. Submit the forms with the right amount of money and in about three weeks you'll have your AKC registrations for the dogs. Be sure to ask for the AKC pedigree AND registration as it's far cheaper during initial registration proceedures and will come in handy for their frequent sire program or if you want to venture to Canada to show and therefore would need to get registrations done. As well, if someone in Canada wants to use for breeding, you will need the pedigree.

As for breeding, dont' worry about prefix's. The majority aren't 'registered' and the AKC is only worried about if the same name is used, however you will find that a prefix is often used for another breed without issue.

As well, you can actually reuse a name and they will simply stick a 1 or 2 on the end of it. Dumb I know but that's what they do.

it's costly and not necessary to go through registering prefix with the AKC. There seldom is ever any issues in this regard when it comes to registrations.

[sandgrubber]

Thanks guys. Interesting about prefixes being something of a free for all in the US.

[angelsun]

Yes unfortunately anyone that complies with the registration needs can breed a litter of 'papered' dogs. Hence why there is such a problem with puppy mills in the Mid West region that supply pet stores with dogs that can claim to be AKC registered. They are in fact so, but these are not breeders as we know them. As well, the buyer has the right to name the dog not the breeder, but many breeders will pencil in their 'prefix' or name the pups prior to sale, however the AKC rules state that the owner has the right to name the pup, therefore we see a lot of dogs out there that are registered with whatever prefix but having a breeder of record with a known prefix, not noted in the dogs name.

The rules are very slack when it comes to the AKC in many ways although they have put in place some rules which are helping, it's still a registration service full of loopholes which man happily use to their advantage. There is no mandatory tattoo or chipping required by the AKC and no rules stating that papers must be provided to a dog that is sold.