MYSQL Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 I have a litter that was whelped on Friday & the biggest pup in the litter is a bit "rattley" while feeding he is silent when sleeping & appears to have no trouble breathing (isn't labouring at all at rest ) I have checked his palate & all is good there, the rattling when he feeds I noticed at 3am & he is the same at 8am so Im thinking he may have a chest infection? so obviously antibiotics will be needed I don't want to take him into my vet due to a recent parvo issue at the vet but when they open I will ring & see what he says. Does anyone have any similar experience & any idea if I'm on the right track? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 P'raps he inhaled some fluid at birth? :p or maybe is he a messy drinker- and slurps- allowing him to get milk up his nose? have you tried some simple physio? not directly after a feed -put him on something soft & warm.. fully supported, on his side with his head downhill. GENTLY tap/rub his chest a few times- keeping him tilted ..and see if anything comes out his nose . That's all I can think of now, sorry. poor little fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYSQL Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 Thanks for the advice :p All the babies were suctioned thoroughly at birth but perhaps he did enhale a bit of fluid first? but he is a greedy baby & very fat & it does seem to be like he has something up his nose as he also nuffles/sneezes a bit while feeding so I will try the physio & see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifi Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Clavulox drops straight away, and physio as Pers suggested :-) fifi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifi Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 (edited) PS: Do you swing them to remove fluid from lungs at birth if they are a bit 'fluidy' ? I don't think suction does enough. fifi Edited July 19, 2010 by fifi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYSQL Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 (edited) Yep i swung them as well as suctioned I just watched him feed & he blew some milk out of his nose :p I have talked to the vet & have someone bringing the clavulox drops this morning ( I don't leave them for the first 2 weeks). Edited July 19, 2010 by hellier dog rescue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifi Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 (edited) Poor little pup, you've checked the palate ? If you have any ordinary clavulox tabs, you can crush an eighth of one into a dropper of boiled water to at least tide you over. edited, sorry I though the drops were coming tomorrow. fifi Edited July 19, 2010 by fifi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYSQL Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 Yeah I checked his palate that was my first thought as well but it seems perfectly normal, I was wondering if I could crush up a tablet and make some drops with sterile water but wasn't sure how much tablet to use thanks Fifi :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifi Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Yeah I checked his palate that was my first thought as well but it seems perfectly normal, I was wondering if I could crush up a tablet and make some drops with sterile water but wasn't sure how much tablet to use thanks Fifi :p No worries, the fun bit is gauging the 'eighth' fifi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifi Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 sounds like mum has lots of milk and he's a guts !!! best of luck with him :-)) fifi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cockerlover Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 dont want to dishearten u <but I hada similar situation in my last litter (they were premmie though) is the pup gaining weight ???? would be interested in the diognosies(sp)trusting all is fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYSQL Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 dont want to dishearten u <but I hada similar situation in my last litter (they were premmie though)is the pup gaining weight ???? would be interested in the diognosies(sp)trusting all is fine He's gaining really well he's by far the plumpest in the litter, it is a litter of 5 ( Aussie Shepherd) & mum has had big litters previously & she looks like a Jersey cow with only having 5 to feed I've only ever had 2 litters prior to this litter & had pups lose weight the first day but so far all the pups have actually gained from day 1? the baby with the issue was 320gm at birth & day 3 is 400gm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 I had one like that in my last litter - I was panicking thinking he had a cleft because he would make this snuffly noise & then have milk come out his nose but he was just a gutz and the bitch had a lot of milk so he was drinking too fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYSQL Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 Here's a couple of pic's of the pup in the grp shot he's on the far right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cockerlover Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 lets hope hes just a little gutso <id be getting him checked though <my little girl was the biggest born gained steadily for 10 days <then got progresively worse ,she was given her wings @ 3 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifi Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 beautiful bubba :-) Sorry to hear of your pup CL, I'm guessing those little premmie lungs are what stopped your good care being enough to save her :-(( Hellier, I've seen mostly good outcomes with rattley pups, those that were physically well formed and hadn't already gone into phnemonia(sp) Keep up the physio and AB's for a week, and just make sure the little one is keeping as mobile as the other little grublets. Also that he feels firm in your hand, and no different to the others. fifi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 (edited) Shine a light up into the roof of the mouth, hair line cracks in the palate aren't always obvious and it's worth checking a few more times. Edited July 19, 2010 by SBT123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifi Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Shine a light up into the roof of the mouth, hair line cracks in the palate aren't always obvious and it's worth checking a few more times. good thinking 99 fifi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancinbcs Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 (edited) My vet, who is a repro specialist, gives the rattley ones an injection of something to clear the lungs. I can't remember what drug it is but it always clears them up straight away. Edited July 19, 2010 by dancinbcs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cockerlover Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 beautiful bubba :-)Sorry to hear of your pup CL, I'm guessing those little premmie lungs are what stopped your good care being enough to save her :-(( Hellier, I've seen mostly good outcomes with rattley pups, those that were physically well formed and hadn't already gone into phnemonia(sp) Keep up the physio and AB's for a week, and just make sure the little one is keeping as mobile as the other little grublets. Also that he feels firm in your hand, and no different to the others. fifi thanku Fifi<yep i had a pm performed =no normal lung tissue .heartbreaking when one devotes onesself to help the little strugglers make it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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