OSoSwift Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Out of interest what height would have the vast majority of dogs, I would assume 500?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Definitely 500 here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 same - 500 has the most dogs here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 At the moment here in Masters classes the vast majority are 500, followed by 300, 600, 400, 200 300 & 600 are very close in numbers and can swap on the day depending on who is entered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I have one in 400 and one in 500 so have two classes covered, maybe a GSP to do the 600 class and um hmmmmm not sure about a littley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Kenz is a 400 dog we could travel west when she can play again . 500 here would win out but the other classes all seem to have a fair number. We have a number of 300/400 shelties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 At the moment here in Masters classes the vast majority are 500, followed by 300, 600, 400, 200 300 & 600 are very close in numbers and can swap on the day depending on who is entered. Wow that many in 300, I would never have guessed. I guess most of your herding/working type breeds seen in agility would fall into the 500 class. My previous dog was 600 but they were all together way back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Yep we have a bit of a sheltie invasion too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Its scary training at our club - 300/400s out number anything else - definite sheltie invasion happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickie Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 This last weekend in Masters Jumping we had 10 x 200 9 x 300 16 x 400 35 x 500 (14 of these were BCs) 14 x 600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Wow that's pretty good numbers for the 'minority heights'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FHRP Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 (edited) Intersting that you had more 200 & 600 dogs than the 300's! After 500 height dogs, 300 would be our biggest class usually. Our last trial had in JDM: 0 x 200 7 x 300 5 x 400 (1 bc) 25 x 500 (12 bc's) 2 x 600 The above seems pretty representative of our local trials this year, maybe a bit above average on the 400 dogs? 500 height dogs definitely make up the majority of our entries, with a large percent being bc's. We only have a couple of 200 height dogs locally and we used to have a good 600 contingent but I find myself a bit lonely in 600 these days!! Oh, and not a single sheltie in the above numbers! Edited November 7, 2011 by FHRP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 (edited) In the trial on the weekend we had the following numbers in Masters Jumping: 600 - 3 (one BC) 500 - 23 (17 BCs, 2 BC Xs) 400 - 6 (2 BCs, 2 Shelties) 300 - 9 (5 Shelties) 200 - 1 (Papillon) In the open classes there were less 300s and more 600s, it was an expensive trial ($10 per entry) so less entries than normal (ETA - all 300 dogs in Open classes were Shelties except one Corgi) Edited November 7, 2011 by amypie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickie Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 I prefer the old system of gaining AgCh - it is much harder. I like the new system. Problem with the old system is that it means a different thing depending on the state you're in. If you have 4-5 very fast consistent dogs who are at every trial, it can be damned near impossible for anyone else to ever place even though they may be awesome agility dogs. Bummer is that we just did our last agility runs for the year. Trim only needs a few 4? agility places, but now all her first places will only count for 10 points so we're miles away now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Bugger Vickie!!!! I was talking to someone here who only needs a couple more passes for the Ag Ch... we still have 3 trials to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 (edited) We have had a few here who have got it under the new post July rules. Couple of the oldies who were in there day competitive enough to place but one being a sheltie she just couldn't match it with the bigger dogs now since she has unfortunately past her prime. A lovely reliable little dog, certainly well deserving of the title . Edited November 7, 2011 by ness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I prefer the old system of gaining AgCh - it is much harder. I like the new system. Problem with the old system is that it means a different thing depending on the state you're in. If you have 4-5 very fast consistent dogs who are at every trial, it can be damned near impossible for anyone else to ever place even though they may be awesome agility dogs. Bummer is that we just did our last agility runs for the year. Trim only needs a few 4? agility places, but now all her first places will only count for 10 points so we're miles away now Yes, I agree - we have the same issue here. But I think Trim deserves the title under the old rules and it's a real shame she won't have the chance to round out her title One of our club members got her last pass a few weeks ago with only a few trials left for the year and is understandably over the moon. Perhaps if they kept the old AgCh title and had introduced the new rules under a different title I would be happier. I think those very fast, consistent dogs and handlers deserve the special recognition - and I say that knowing that Ziggy would never come close under the old rules (although Em might going by her speed) but may well under the new rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casima Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 That is really sad that Trim didn't quite get her Ag Ch before the cut off She very much deserves it! Not sure how I feel about the new Ag Ch rules, I liked how for the most part the old Ag Ch's were fairly rare and earnt by some amazing dogs. However the new system makes it more attainable for dogs who may not be competitive across all heights but are great for their height catogory and fairer for people who don't want to travel far and wide to find seperate height trials. we used to have a good 600 contingent but I find myself a bit lonely in 600 these days!! Hi FHRP! Raffy needs to come visit the ACT again so poor Rogan isn't lonely hopefully next year we will get a few ACT trials in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyValley Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 AP if Zora stops growing soon she will be a 400 dog! ( ) Or the very lowest 500 dog. However likely you will be in Masters before she is ready for her debut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FHRP Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Perhaps if they kept the old AgCh title and had introduced the new rules under a different title I would be happier. They kind of have done that. Under the new rules the height class is added to the title, so you can differentiate between dogs that got the title under the old rules and under the new. So, if my boy had have got his title under the new rules he'd be AgCh 600 not just AgCh, regardless if the points were gained at all height or seperate height trials. There are a couple of things I don't like about the new AgCh title, but I did think the old system needed to be changed. The new system still requires a lot from a team, it's not easy to qualify that consistently at Masters level! I have already had said to me that under the new rules some people don't consider anything other than an AgCh 500 to be much of a title which I think is very sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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