pie Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Wow! Never mind the dog, I couldn't run all those I actually prefer ADO to JDO, so does Kyzer, going to try and enter some more with him next year. And maybe Trixie too though distance is not our strong point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 It only goes to sh!t when the rings coincide. A few weeks ago I had to run 3 rings in 4 minutes I was literally running out of one ring, rewarding, throwing the cool coat on and bolting to the next ring and trying to remember the course. Seemed to work....we came away with a 3rd place, Q in JDO, then a 7th place (overall, 1st in 600), Q in JDM and a 2nd place, NQ in ADX. Just a little tired and slightly slower in the final run and I misjudged a jump, pulled him off early and tipped the bar. And that was at the end of the day too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I have 8 to run at my first trials, but the dogs only have 4 each Am increasing my exercise I can tell you! Beroccas and coke and we'll be right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I don't think I'll ever get Kyzer up to doing 4 runs on one trial But Trixie should get there. 8 would be too chaotic for me, clashes stress me out It'a not too bad when you're in both novice classes but when you are in AD & JDX they are usually on at the same time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 They are all in the novice classes The poor dogs are handler impaired :D My thing is trying to get between the show ring and the sport classes and remembering to change my shoes so I don't slip over and remembering what number goes with who and what class - I learnt early take a pen and write it on the back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Yep I write on the number too - which dog it is, what the height orders are, when they are in the ring (4th 300 etc) much easier! Yeah I don't envy you there having to show and run agility on the same day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Well done amypie, your runs tonight were fantastic! Hope you've popped into the brags thread ;) Besides Millie being a defiant little so and so when it came to tunnel entries tonight, she ran with super enthusiasm and speed and I really had a ball running her! Her see saw was hilarious. She blasted up it and I had to yell STEADY!!! and she slammed the breaks on just in time and rode it down Looking forward to running her over the summer night time trials. She gives me speed I don't get in warm daytime trials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 (edited) What do people think of the ABC (anything but collie) class in the UK? Do BCs really dominate that much? Is it due to the difference in the agility system over there (you have to place to progress, not simply qualify/clear round under time)? A good way to showcase other breeds? Kelpies often do quite well :D Nigel Staines with Zico winning events across many years. Edited November 6, 2011 by Kavik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Rusty Bucket Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Koolies and Shelties seem to do well here. Is the dominance of the BC - because the best handlers over there prefer them and haven't tried anything else or because they really are the fastest and cleanest and most reliable round a course? Personally I've seen a few farm dog bitsas that are much faster and tigher on the turns that the BCs they run with - maybe in the hands of a skilled trainer - they'd beat all the BCs. And I'm not talking about my dog - she's slower than your average kelpie and many BCs in a straight line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podengo Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 What do people think of the ABC (anything but collie) class in the UK? Do BCs really dominate that much? Is it due to the difference in the agility system over there (you have to place to progress, not simply qualify/clear round under time)? A good way to showcase other breeds? Kelpies often do quite well :D Nigel Staines with Zico winning events across many years. I think they are good in the UK because of their agility system, I think it makes it a little more fun with people who don't have Collies... I love seeing oddball breeds in agility, and I love seeing them have the opportunity to place/do well, and if the field is dominated by collies they may not have a chance. Here in NZ it doesn't seem to be the case, there are a LOT of BCs, but also lots of other breeds doing well... At our show this weekend just past there were lots of mix breeds on the podium, a papillon placed first in a starters non-split class (so beat every other dog including BCs in that class!), the schnauzer I run placed, saw a golden place, a lab, various other little mix breed dogs and lots of other neat breeds. I don't think we need an ABC class at the moment, and because our progression is like yours (qualify/clear rounds) there are opportunities for dogs who aren't podium finishers to be able to progress through classes and earn some titles (AD, ADX, JD, JDX). I do think that the way CH titles (AG CH, AG GR CH, JCH) are earned is fair though, to earn a championship you should have to BEAT other dogs, not just qualify/get clear rounds I am happy with the way things are in New Zealand, with classes splitting into heights now it makes things fair for little dogs and big slow dogs too! Do they split classes in Aussie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 There are some separate heights trials, and some trials where all heights compete against each other. I've only seen Open events where all heights are together though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 We still have a couple of combined heights trials, the majority are separate now though (talking ANKC agility) So we are only competing against our own height, which is great, unless you are like Trixie, who was the only 400 dog in Novice Jumping loner. I don't think we need the ABC classes here, beside the Kelpies would kick butt still anyway And in WA if you removed all the BCs there would be about 15-20 dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 All our trials here are open - I'm more than happy to go up against the BCs etc with a not-so-common breed. It's certainly a lot harder at Masters level but I like that we compete against the clock rather than the other dogs for a Q. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I should add that Open classes are always combined heights (believe that's an ANKC rule?) I like our system of getting Qs here, but I do think you should have to attain certain numbers of placings to get your Ag Ch title. The new rules now means you don't need to place isn't that right? You just have to accumulate points? Could be wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koalathebear Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Wouldn't Kelpies be classed together with the Collies though, given that they are essentially descended from the Border Collie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I prefer the old system of gaining AgCh - it is much harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 So we are only competing against our own height, which is great, unless you are like Trixie, who was the only 400 dog in Novice Jumping loner Rommi is a 400 dog so maybe we need to travel up, not that we would be a real danger to your placing or winning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I think to become a champion it should require a certain number of placings, not just the numebr of passes. An AgCh is something special and should not be gained too easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Trixie has no chance against a Whippy! :D I just don't want to be a loner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Umm well yes she would have, Rommi is quite steady and particular......also one must have very responsive stearing to go fast!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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