Ainsley Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 My sister has just called me and she has a puppy that is only 5 weeks old. I have only gotten my dogs at 8 weeks, so I am concerned there will be additional needs for a pup so young. The "breeders" told her it was fine to have the pup at this age, and hers was actually the last one to leave the Mum. Any advice would be invaluable! Apparently the pup is a Border Collie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamSnag Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 (edited) I answerd in your other thread but ill say it again here.. I wouldnt call them "breeders" :D Id call em money hungry pigs!! Somewhere warm to sleep out of the draft of the cold.. Fresh mince.. i like to feed my dogs Jalna full fat natural yogurt Good quality dry food like advance puppy or Royal Canin puppy (depend on the breed) My pups r 4 weeks old so i soak there kibble in goats milk to make it slushy and i blend it with the mince n yogurt...To make a paste.. You will also need to worm him at 6 weeks 8 weeks n so on also.. lets hope he has been wormed!! He will also need his needles for parvo.. Make sure she takes him NO WHERE.. only outside (backyard) for toilet n play.. God ppl make me so mad Edited July 1, 2010 by TeamSnag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamSnag Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 (edited) I should also add she will need to feed him a few times aday 3 to 4 times and plenty of fresh water.. Edited July 1, 2010 by TeamSnag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joan of Arc Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Puppy replacement milk such as Wambaroo or Divetalac, soak all biscuits till soft, lots of warm bedding, a crate because at 5 weeks it will have security issues if it doesnt feel safe. I suppose it is rude of me to ask if your sister paid good money for this pup - I suggest she contacts a good vet, gets it checked out and vaccinated, microchipped, wormed etc the day it turns 6 weeks and as TS commented 3 - 4 meals a day and lots of love and cuddles to replace its mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cockerlover Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 some folk r unbelievable !!!!!besides warmth ,shelter ,worming, food ect ,give the pup some soft toys to cuddle up with & a hot water bottol wrapped securly in a blanket or towel to sleep on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partipaws Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 5 weeks is way too young to leave for a new home - generally no pup should leave for a new home until it has been vaccinated and usually you allow 2 weeks after a vac before they leave - thats my vets opinion and the way I practice! Good advise given by everyone so far! I was going to add hot water bottle and some other things to mimic mum and siblings, but someone beat me to it All the best with puppy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becks Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 I would worm the pup now as there is no reason to believe this has already been done by the producers of the pup. Softened food, warm water would be fine to do this. A little tinned food, mince or tripe added will make the food more appetising. Feeding 4 times a day at this age. Bed placed somewhere cave like so he has a safe place to sleep, maybe with a toy in there and hotwater bottle if it is chilly. Daytime spent somewhere in with the family so he can socialise to the household noises. Allow plenty of sleep time without being disturbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozwildflower Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 YIKES...so very wrong. Everything that everyone else has said..plus. If this so-called self-styled 'breeder' is registered, I would also be reporting them to the relevant state Canine authority, as letting a pup go this young is a no-no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Baggins Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 becks good "the producer of the pup" God irresponsible people make me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancinbcs Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Once this puppy is wormed and vaccinated it will need some serious socialisation with other vaccinated dogs. Leaving the litter at 5 weeks can lead to lifelong psychological problems like dog agression. It will probably also be a biter as a baby because it won't have litter mates to practice bite inhibition on. As for food at 5 weeks. Four feeds a day, including a milk substitute like DiVetelact or Biolac or Goats milk. Minced meat, puppy kibble lightly soaked and at 6 weeks chicken wings to chew on. By six weeks you may not need to soak the kibble but it will depend on the size of the puppy. At that age mine are usually about 2.5 to 4 kgs. If the puppy is much smaller than that it may need the food soaking more. Personally I think it should be returned and a refund demanded. I'm sure if these yobbos sold a puppy at 5 weeks, they won't have done the required health testing on the parents either. Border Collies must be DNA tested for the fatal conditions CL and TNS before breeding to ensure that both parents are not carrying the same condition. TNS is fatal between about 2 and 6 months and CL around 18 months. The only cases of these conditions now reported are in unregistered dogs so no one should ever buy an unregistered Border from parents that have not been health tested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benshiva Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Once this puppy is wormed and vaccinated it will need some serious socialisation with other vaccinated dogs. Leaving the litter at 5 weeks can lead to lifelong psychological problems like dog agression. It will probably also be a biter as a baby because it won't have litter mates to practice bite inhibition on.As for food at 5 weeks. Four feeds a day, including a milk substitute like DiVetelact or Biolac or Goats milk. Minced meat, puppy kibble lightly soaked and at 6 weeks chicken wings to chew on. By six weeks you may not need to soak the kibble but it will depend on the size of the puppy. At that age mine are usually about 2.5 to 4 kgs. If the puppy is much smaller than that it may need the food soaking more. Personally I think it should be returned and a refund demanded. I'm sure if these yobbos sold a puppy at 5 weeks, they won't have done the required health testing on the parents either. Border Collies must be DNA tested for the fatal conditions CL and TNS before breeding to ensure that both parents are not carrying the same condition. TNS is fatal between about 2 and 6 months and CL around 18 months. The only cases of these conditions now reported are in unregistered dogs so no one should ever buy an unregistered Border from parents that have not been health tested. Agree with everything that Dancinbcs has said especially the bolded part. Makes my blood boil. I'd be taking the puppy back as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoseRed Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 That is dreadful Poor little puppy. And to think that he was the last of the litter to leave home ... at 5 weeks???? Gosh, did his litter mates even have their eyes open before they were fobbed off. Apart from making a complaint to the RSPCA about the breeders, make sure puppy is warm and has good food (probably soaked in puppy milk or warm water since he's so young). And worming etc, coz I'm sure his previous owners didn't care enough to do any of that. Poor little bub hasn't even had a chance to be socialised. Puppies need to spend time with their mum and litter mates because the playing, fighting etc teaches them what is normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordogs Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 OK I was at work yesterday and trying not to give the riot act to a puppy person. Puppy was just 6 weeks old and owners brought in for 1st vaccine. They had already had her for 1 week !@!!!! Yes they were doing the right thing!! Unfortunately a local ranger was also in the waiting room and gave the puppy owner a run down as to why not to buy a puppy prior to 8 weeks of age. Unfortunately it is NOT the fault of the buyer BUT the problem lies with the breeders who only want to unload the puppies ASAP. There are far too many breeders out there that are too willing to unload their puppies at just 6 weeks or even earlier just to be rid of their burden. These Yes BYB are only too willing to be rid of them, they do not give pedigrees, puppies are not microchiped, no diet info, worming instructions and the list goes on. We will never be rid of these breeders, they will continue to do the things that they have always done and that is make money from their bitches at least twice each year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancinbcs Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 OK I was at work yesterday and trying not to give the riot act to a puppy person. Puppy was just 6 weeks old and owners brought in for 1st vaccine. They had already had her for 1 week !@!!!! Yes they were doing the right thing!!Unfortunately a local ranger was also in the waiting room and gave the puppy owner a run down as to why not to buy a puppy prior to 8 weeks of age. Unfortunately it is NOT the fault of the buyer BUT the problem lies with the breeders who only want to unload the puppies ASAP. There are far too many breeders out there that are too willing to unload their puppies at just 6 weeks or even earlier just to be rid of their burden. These Yes BYB are only too willing to be rid of them, they do not give pedigrees, puppies are not microchiped, no diet info, worming instructions and the list goes on. We will never be rid of these breeders, they will continue to do the things that they have always done and that is make money from their bitches at least twice each year. Sorry but I beg to differ on this point. As long as buyers don't bother to do even the most basic research into buying a puppy, unscupulous puppy farmers and BYBs will get away with ripping them off. Most people do far more research when buying a mobile phone, that they will probably upgrade in a couple of years, than they do when buying a dog that should be part of their life for 10-15 years. There is plenty of information available to anyone who cares to look and it all points out that you should only buy a vaccinated, wormed puppy over 8 weeks. Disreputable breeders will continue to flog off puppies under 6 weeks as long as there are idiots out there to buy them. Puppies cost the most to feed in the 6-8 week period so selling them sooner helps boost their profits. ANKC breeders do not sell puppies under 8 weeks and that should alert buyers to the fact that there are good reasons for this rule. Unfortunately some people just don't want to listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanati Whippets Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 This is soooo wrong and so sad. I hope the poor pup is ok. I struggle to let mine leave by 12 weeks! There is NO WAY anyone would get my babies so young! I hope she reports them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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