Bjelkier Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 (edited) I dont think I would sell someone a dog with a list like that. Sorry. Maybe when the child/children are older it would be a better idea but I dont know...... Edited June 28, 2010 by Wolfsong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W Sibs Posted June 28, 2010 Author Share Posted June 28, 2010 I totally agree with you all on why she shouldn't get a dog. She doesn't like small dogs (she barely tolerates Emmy and Charlie) and uses the excuse that my house is "dirty" with fur to come over with her baby. So how will this baby "grow up" with a "dirty" dog that's kept outside and that will shed like demon? I give any Lab pup they get less than 6 months before its surrendered because "it jumps on the kids". The are good people and mean well but they aren't ready for a puppy. I've tried telling her this.. i just need another way of telling her. But, you guys have pointed out with the kid may not like a bouncing and energetic puppy... then I got to mention about a lot of training etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whipitgood Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 I forsee her posting on a forum such as this in 1 years time - asking for help with her destructive, hyperactive, untrained dog that she wants to rehome. She might want a dog because "all families should have one" ... but would the dog enjoy living with their family? I suspect not. Just show her this thread, hopefully it is enough to put her off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakway Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Why don't you just print all of this out for them. They may just get the message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakway Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 (edited) Why don't you just print all of this out for them. They may just get the message. Woops double post sorry. Edited June 28, 2010 by oakway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirty Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 My friend recently got a lab puppy - you may have seen my posts about her wanting to rehome it. It is now about 9 months old, very very destructive (their yard is bare dirt now with pot holes), it is very very bouncy and is always knocking over her two small kids and the poor dog is bored out of its brain. My friend also wanted a cute puppy, and now she has an annoying, active, naughty dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 I've tried telling her this.. i just need another way of telling her. But, you guys have pointed out with the kid may not like a bouncing and energetic puppy... then I got to mention about a lot of training etc. Ask her how much she thinks her son will enjoy spending time with a pup that runs towards him with its mouth open and spends all its time mouthing and jumping on him. Baby Labs can be like that. I think the best reality check I can think of is for them to spend time with a litter of just woken up Lab babies and a few adolescent Labs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 CW EW why not select and print out a lot of the posts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms Genki Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 (edited) Yes, get her to read the thread . Sounds naive and irresponsible to have an outside labrador with one little child and another being planned. I have a 4 year old lab who is lovely, well-trained, independent, given plenty of love and attention.....and still insists on bouncing off the walls at any given moment. If they simply must have an animal, start with a low-shedding toilet trained cat, otherwise I'd have to agree with a previous poster, a lawn ornament is preferable. Edited June 28, 2010 by Ms Genki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W Sibs Posted June 28, 2010 Author Share Posted June 28, 2010 My friend recently got a lab puppy - you may have seen my posts about her wanting to rehome it. It is now about 9 months old, very very destructive (their yard is bare dirt now with pot holes), it is very very bouncy and is always knocking over her two small kids and the poor dog is bored out of its brain. My friend also wanted a cute puppy, and now she has an annoying, active, naughty dog. Yeah I did. Poor pup. I don't want her to have a pup because i'm fairly certain that's going to happen with this puppy. I've tried telling her this.. i just need another way of telling her. But, you guys have pointed out with the kid may not like a bouncing and energetic puppy... then I got to mention about a lot of training etc. Ask her how much she thinks her son will enjoy spending time with a pup that runs towards him with its mouth open and spends all its time mouthing and jumping on him. Baby Labs can be like that. I think the best reality check I can think of is for them to spend time with a litter of just woken up Lab babies and a few adolescent Labs.. I did mention that she should look after her parents Beagle for a while with the baby to see if they can handle it.... the beagle is a crazy and hyper dog who's about 2 years old. She has to talk to her husband.. so far, her husband is not budging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickbrownfox Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 I think the best reality check I can think of is for them to spend time with a litter of just woken up Lab babies and a few adolescent Labs.. I agree with this. See if you can find a breeder that would allow a family visit to help them understand the temperament of the dog and what to expect. It might deter them from getting one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W Sibs Posted June 28, 2010 Author Share Posted June 28, 2010 CW EW why not select and print out a lot of the posts? I am copying it into an email! This has given my a whole new idea on how to talk to her about this. If that fails, I'm going to email her all this.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 I had a guy ring me last week who was thinking about a JRT with 3 kids under 5 years and one that was 7 months of age. I think he was being egged on to get one by friends and was looking for someone to tell him it would not be a good idea. Luckily he also had financial concerns so I explained the real cost of a dog. I told him essentially it was like 'having another baby' in the house and the stress of managing kids and dogs out in the yard could be a huge issue. I tend to always advise- sure get a dog- just wait until your kids are old enough to control their behaviour around the puppy as far as puppy mouthing and jumping is concerned. After a frank but friendly chat he thanked me profusely for the advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumbeat Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Sounds like a stuffed toy would suit them better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirst_goldens Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 :S i hope u can talk them out of it! im work at a kennel and the amount of fat, hyperactive labs who haven't had a shread of training in basic manners let alone obedience is CRAZY! we socialise the dogs and sometimes we cant mix these labs because they are too over the top and piss off all the other dogs and dont get the GO AWAY msg they are being sent at all. It is really sad because im a gundog lover and have a special spot for labs and it breaks my heart how everyone thinks they are a one size fits all dog to slap in the backyard and pat when they feel like it. On the hair issue - Labs shed like CRAZY!! does she know that?? when we do wash down the hairiest runs are the labs everytime they even beat the sheppies and the goldies! HAIRY DOGS hahaha Gundogs needs to be with their pack, if they end up with a dog at this stage in their busy lives then they will only be destroying the life of a baby that deserves so much better - this dog shouldnt be disadvantaged because they would like an ornament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfgirl Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Like others have said you can see this will end badly. Maybe suggest to your friend they could foster a puppy from a shelter and see what they are in for first, it may just be the eye opener they need to realise what a horrible mistake they could be making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikesPuppy Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Good lord of all breeds, too!! I feel sorry for Labs with their 'perfect' stereotype, so many people just don't understand that they are an active, strong large dog- they don't come settled and obedient!!! The fact that they only want chocolate is an issue too for me- the whole thing just reeks of the picture perfect white picket fence, mummy daddy and 2 kids scenario which we realistic folk know doesn't just magically happen I sold a puppy to a family with a 3 yr old and an 18 month old- at first I was wary but the family were doggy people and were up for the challenge a terrier pup poses. So it can definitly be done but, and I mean no offense here to your friend , but this family just is not ready for a dog, let alone a bouncy big puppy (of course there is also the dietary needs of a large breed puppy plus risk of bloat etc). If they were to get one I see nothing but disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 my advice don't help them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 (edited) Oh joy. Another family wanting the "perfect family pet" and choosing a Labrador because they've been portrayed as coming out of the womb calm and well trained like a Guide Dog Another family that does not truly understand the requirements of a Labrador and probably not understanding it needs constant training to get it to eventually be that calm well mannered dog. Another family that will contribute to the bad rap that Labs get amongst "doggy people". And another family that will ultimately dump the dog at the pound because it is just too damn boisterous and destructive Sorry CW EW, don't mean to offend, but it just upsets me that Labs keep falling into the hands of people who fit your friend's criteria and continue to tarnish the Labrador name Edited June 28, 2010 by RubyStar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-time Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Get her to "borrow" a young Lab for a week and see how she copes - foster a Lab! If your friend really loves Labs, the best and most sensible thing for the breed AND for her family is just wait for about 2 -3 years (when her 2nd baby is old enough to walk) and then both children can enjoy the experience of a dog growing up with them and the dog can be guaranteed a devoted family to knock around with and not just be left to it's own devices. This dog has to be for the WHOLE family and not just for your friend. If hubby will only agree on a Lab, then in order to have that breed, your friend needs to be patient and wait until the time is right for the children - if the time isn't right for the children (age-wise) the dog will end up being a disaster on legs and your friend will end up putting *her* Lab into rescue....... Dogs have hair and Labs in particular SHED like crazy - outdoor dog or not - one trip in the car and there will be fur all over the baby. Wait until she's regularly washing mud out of the knees of pants adn a little fur will be nothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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