kiesha09 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Is it illegal to dock tails in South Australia? I have a friend who just purchased a Boston Terrier from a registered breeder here with a docked tail but thought it was illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisovar Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Born with naturally tinsy winsy little tails Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkeyre Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Docking in South Australia is Illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 There are a number of breeds born with short tails that aren't docked nor a traditional docked breed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingduster Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 yup, bostons are born with naturally tiny lil nub tails, or no tail at all, and should never be docked even in countries that allow docking! I do know of some breeders who (in countries were you're allowed) will dock a really twisted/corkscrew boston tail though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 docked Boston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxx'sBuddy Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 i have a boston terrier. they have a gene that gives them a shortened snout and a very short nub of a tail...no docking required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirty Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Its the same with Frenchies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxx'sBuddy Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 (edited) yup, bostons are born with naturally tiny lil nub tails, or no tail at all, and should never be docked even in countries that allow docking! I do know of some breeders who (in countries were you're allowed) will dock a really twisted/corkscrew boston tail though. well not totally accurate...... they dock bostons when their tail is longer than the standard. it is easy to tell a docked bostons tail from a natural one...the natural one is a bit pointy at the end and the docked on is blunt. this can be a problem in the usa but not from registered breeders ets a corkscrew tail would never be docked because it is so short you would be docking into the spine which is not a good option Edited June 28, 2010 by Jaxx'sBuddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellz Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 it is easy to tell a docked bostons tail from a natural one...the natural one is a bit pointy at the end and the docked on is blunt. this can be a problem in the usa but not from registered breeders Does the same apply in all breeds if the tail has been banded?? I know that banding is more likely produce a naturally tapering tail end in some breeds, the ones I banded always did anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxx'sBuddy Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 (edited) it is easy to tell a docked bostons tail from a natural one...the natural one is a bit pointy at the end and the docked on is blunt. this can be a problem in the usa but not from registered breeders Does the same apply in all breeds if the tail has been banded?? I know that banding is more likely produce a naturally tapering tail end in some breeds, the ones I banded always did anyway. nope ellz you are right, banding would give a different result from docking and banding would most likely give a more tapered end. the hair grows different though i think. its hard to describe but i think if the tail has been banded or docked the hair at the tip grows differently in the us the breeders i have talked to have reported docking happens they never talked about banding. ets i am now curious and will ask them but for clarity no reputable breeder would dock a Boston Terrier Edited June 28, 2010 by Jaxx'sBuddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christina Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Docking is illegal in SA however a vet may legally dock if there is a problem, for example injury or deformity that will affect the dog adversely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiesha09 Posted June 29, 2010 Author Share Posted June 29, 2010 Thanks for the replies everyone. Honestly, I don't know much about Bostons so didn't know about their tails being naturally short. However the reason that I thought it was docked was because another family member who was at dinner brought it up saying she was appalled that he had been docked. This lady is a vet :D so I thought she would know what she was talking about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayly Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Not all vets have a thorough knowledge on all the breeds and what genes they may or may not carry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Not all vets have a thorough knowledge on all the breeds and what genes they may or may not carry. Very true, we've had more than one ask us if we docked Lilis tail, we've had to tell them that's how she was born Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiesha09 Posted June 29, 2010 Author Share Posted June 29, 2010 Fair enough re the vets not knowing everything about every breed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gayle. Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Any vet I've ever taken Dusty to has commented on her "docked" tail. I point out that if it had been docked, it would probably be a neater job than nature gave her. It's about 3 vertabrae long and has a kink in it. For the record, I've never taken any of my dogs to a vet who knew what an Australian Shepherd was. Mine were the first they'd ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJean Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Not all vets have a thorough knowledge on all the breeds and what genes they may or may not carry. NO, but I expect if a vet has a strong opinion against any practise to do with dogs, they should at least know the total aspect of what it is they find so abhorrent. Afterall their profession is based on the accumulation of knowledge and lifelong learning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxx'sBuddy Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Not all vets have a thorough knowledge on all the breeds and what genes they may or may not carry. NO, but I expect if a vet has a strong opinion against any practise to do with dogs, they should at least know the total aspect of what it is they find so abhorrent. Afterall their profession is based on the accumulation of knowledge and lifelong learning. spot on, its the assumption that gets me, the assumption that someone (a breeder) has done something illegal and the assumption that the tail has been docked. it would have been better for the vet to hold their tongue and do some research rather than try to be the expert. pretty ignorant imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayly Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Not all vets have a thorough knowledge on all the breeds and what genes they may or may not carry. NO, but I expect if a vet has a strong opinion against any practise to do with dogs, they should at least know the total aspect of what it is they find so abhorrent. Afterall their profession is based on the accumulation of knowledge and lifelong learning. spot on, its the assumption that gets me, the assumption that someone (a breeder) has done something illegal and the assumption that the tail has been docked. it would have been better for the vet to hold their tongue and do some research rather than try to be the expert. pretty ignorant imo I agree with you both completely. People assuming the worst with tails, whether they be bobbed or legally docked, annoys me no end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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