Monah Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Just wondered if lilli, Casowner anyone can enlighten me. I know nothing at all about CAS or CAO etc. but CAS are featured in this months Dog magazine so I flicked through it at the newagents to check it out. Is it a relevent article? Maybe someone who knows the breed could tell me? I was a little surprised that it was a 'promoted' breed, not because I dont like them (Casowners is GORGEOUS looking ) but I was under the impression that they are not for everyone (not that I've read the whole article). Nice to see a rare breed out there though, and the dog looked different to me, so are there several types of CAS? I guess central asia must encompass many types of shepherds? Thanks.xxxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casowner Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Thanks Monah, I will go get the magazine to have a read From everything I have seen they do vary in appearance and I wouldn't personally recommend them to just anyone. They are a truly special breed that requires a very dedicated owner, luckily the breeders vet their potential puppy buyers to protect the integrity of the breed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monah Posted June 17, 2010 Author Share Posted June 17, 2010 Thanks, check it out, the dog looks more like an anatolian (but no dark muzzle) to me, but like I said, I do not know anything about these. Tell me what you think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casowner Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 I have just read the article and it doesn’t typify my own CASD in regards to his behaviour and as he is my first (certainly not my last) I can only comment on my personal experience of the breed. Jake is a true guardian and family companion however he is never left alone with my children at anytime. Not because I doubt his character or nerve but the fact is he is a giant breed of dog and I would be irresponsible not to supervise interactions at all times. I would not trust him with strangers either as he is a guardian and it is his job to protect his home/charges from exactly that. Is he outwardly aggressive? No, but again it comes down to his natural instincts and drives, he is extremely social with people that he has been introduced to and quite enjoys visits from family members. Jake is certainly not overly affectionate nor does he crave human company all of the time, I have found the older he gets the more he is interested in affection. Since I have been pregnant he seeks more attention from me and wants to actually come into the house to lie near me, before this he would stress/pace when brought inside. If we are not home by 10pm at night he tends to go next door to our other property but when he hears our car he is home within 5 minutes. He is very aware of where we are if we are outside and he will observe what we are doing at all times but will only come over to check things out to ensure things are ok. When we go walking on the property he will walk a few metres in front of us but will regularly turn to see if we are following him. He is amazing with our own animals but will not tolerate intruders at all; he will happily let our pet rabbits out on the lawn with him but will chase wild ones. It is the same with kangaroos he will lie in the loungeroom with my joey and will sit alongside the roo enclosure outside contently, however he will not allow wild kangaroos on the property. Understanding the breed characteristics and never being complacent is I feel very important when owning a CASD but as I have said Jake is my first experience with his breed. All in all he is an amazing dog and I have so much appreciation that he has been allowed into our lives as he has given me a true peace and security while offering the companionship that a dog can offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJean Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 (edited) what did the article say? I ask bcz a few months ago the author emailed me a list of questions. In reply I asked her what information and photos to date and if she had met any of the breed herself. She replied she hadn't and just emailed me a list of questions for me to fill out /answer: 1. How long have you been breeding/involved in the breed? 2. If you had to describe the perfect person for this breed, what type of person would it be? 3. How would you describe the breed’s personality? 4. Does the breed require much training/are they easy to train? Do they participate in agility etc? 4. Does the breed require much exercise? 5. Does the breed require a lot of grooming/care? 6. Is the breed good for families/children? 7. Does the breed make a good watchdog? 8. Do you have any funny stories/moments about the breed you could share with readers? 9. Are there any hereditary diseases in the breed? 10. What do people need to be aware of before becoming a proud guardian? 11. How much do pups cost? How often are pups available? 12. What is the breed’s lifespan? 13. What backyard requirements does the breed require? 14. What is the breed standard? 15. What is the average size of the breed? 16. Anything else you would like to add? I thought well buggered if I am going to write your article for you and imo, you dont write a breed profile for a breed you have never met or seen. Perhaps another breeder filled out the questions for her. Or maybe USA sources were used. casowner what do the dogs in the photos look like? Edited June 18, 2010 by lilli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monah Posted June 18, 2010 Author Share Posted June 18, 2010 Great post Cas. that's sort of what I thought going on what I've read myself about the breed. I ma have read tomuch into the article, but I thought it made them seem OK for almost any owner? lilli, the dog photo was of a tall, fairly lean, sandy coloured dog with a curled tail. That's the best I can do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJean Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Thanks, check it out, the dog looks more like an anatolian (but no dark muzzle) to me, but like I said, I do not know anything about these. Tell me what you think Did the dog in the photo have cropped ears and docked tail? When you say like an Anatolian do you mean it was fawn in colour or red? Or is it to do with the skull / muzzle / expression of the dog's head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJean Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 (edited) Great post Cas.that's sort of what I thought going on what I've read myself about the breed. I ma have read tomuch into the article, but I thought it made them seem OK for almost any owner? lilli, the dog photo was of a tall, fairly lean, sandy coloured dog with a curled tail. That's the best I can do oh dear I hoped she didn't cut and paste the wrong breed photo. will see if I can find the mag on my way home tonight. Edited June 18, 2010 by lilli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casowner Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 (edited) Lilli, The breeder mentioned is on the breed pages of DOL and the pic was a very fine boned bitch that was a fawn colour, no cropped ears or tail, very anatolian like, to me. My biggest difference was how good they were with strange children and strangers in general. Most other comments were accurate, but not the stronger breed traits which is why I said Jake is not the same. If I had read the article it didn't quite represent what Jake is like at all, however as I said he is my first and what he is like is exactly what I researched. I don't think the photo is actually of the bitch that was spoken about in the article now that I have looked up the details, it may be an anatolian as she was very fine. Edited June 18, 2010 by casowner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJean Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 (edited) Lilli,The breeder mentioned is on the breed pages of DOL and the pic was a very fine boned bitch that was a fawn colour, no cropped ears or tail, very anatolian like, to me. My biggest difference was how good they were with strange children and strangers in general. Most other comments were accurate, but not the stronger breed traits which is why I said Jake is not the same. If I had read the article it didn't quite represent what Jake is like at all, however as I said he is my first and what he is like is exactly what I researched. I don't think the photo is actually of the bitch that was spoken about in the article now that I have looked up the details, it may be an anatolian as she was very fine. lol okay I know where the info is from then Why would they say CAO are good with strangers? Even if your own dog was, the breed as a whole is not. Unless the article was just about one CAO and her personality? Edited June 18, 2010 by lilli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monah Posted June 18, 2010 Author Share Posted June 18, 2010 I thought the dog looked anatolian too, except the face was all one colour, not dark. maybe some are like this? If I read the article and did not know what breed it was meant to be, I never would have picked CAS. Even from the little snippets I know. IMO it's a bit irresponsible as the photo is a handsome looking dog, and the article almost makes you think of a guarding golden retriever. JMO.xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 The photo looks very Anantolian, but it is very straight behind and reasonably bum high. Didn't look at all like your CAS dogs that I have seen photos of Lilli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJean Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Ahhhhhhhh now I want to see the photo! Is it possible to scan it???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casowner Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Lilli, I can scan it in on Sunday, the photo says CABAL Central Asian Shepherd, on looking at the photo closer the bitch looks very pale fawn with white markings, she is high in the rump and has a fine face with a very short coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJean Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Lilli,I can scan it in on Sunday, the photo says CABAL Central Asian Shepherd, on looking at the photo closer the bitch looks very pale fawn with white markings, she is high in the rump and has a fine face with a very short coat. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 I can scan it, just PM me your email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casowner Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 Scanner isn't working so tried to take a photo of the photo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertie Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJean Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 (edited) Yes I also would think Anatolian. It's a CAO though just not very representative. Here is example of excellent CAO: Rus CH Baynak: Rus CH Kibir: Edited June 20, 2010 by lilli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertie Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 *takes back her 'eeking & laughing'* Didn't realise Anatolians came under the CAO banner Boofy CAO's are sexier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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