Kibble In Morning With Raw At Night, This O.k?

[meluchja]

Hi,

I have a mini schnauzer puppy who is 14 weeks old. For the last couple of weeks I have been feeding him raw only, consisting of Canine Country composite white patties and bones like, chix necks or wings or lamb flaps. But I have decided to add some kibble in his diet.

So I was wondering, if I feed him Canidae grain free ALS for breakfast, a chix neck during the day and a combo white patty for dinner, would this be o.k.

I was also wondering if I feed him a kibble do I still need to feed him the chix neck for teeth cleaning etc? the combo white has bone in it.

I'm new here, I have read heaps, and I think I'm on the right track but would appreciate any advice you all have.

Thanks.

Edited June 11, 2010 by meluchja

[Dogsfevr]

Generally one would follow the diet sheet given by the breeder.

Did your breeder give you one & what did they suggest??

Minis need a diet high in essential fatty acids for the skin/coat

[meluchja]

Not a great sheet, just what she fed them. I guess not the best breeder, but it doesn't matter, he is adorable.

The canidae has 4.2% omega 3 & 6 and the combo white has added omega3 6 9.

Canidae does have a salmon grain free, that is 4.7% omega 3 & 6 but has much higher protein and fat content that the ALS one.

I do have a omega 3 6 9 supplement I bought when I was feeding advance when we first got him, as I knew the Schnauzers where prone to get dry skin, so I could add this, but not sure if it's needed.

What do you think?

[Dogsfevr]

when you say not great what do you mean??

[meluchja]

it just said what she fed them, mince mixed with kibble, but didn't mention the brand. Nothing for later stages in life either, but I don't mind now. I have moved on and I've been doing my own research since then (as I probably would have anyway ), and have decided to go down the raw, grain free path. But I did want to still feed kibble so when my mum looks after him when he go away, she doesn't have to deal with raw, as well when he goes into a kennel.

I have ordered a bag of the ALS canidae, but was thinking about changing it to the salmon version. But it has 40% protein and 20%fat, this worries me a little. Do you think these figures are too high for a MS?

[meluchja]

I have ordered a bag of the ALS canidae, but was thinking about changing it to the salmon version. But it has 40% protein and 20%fat, this worries me a little. Do you think these figures are too high for a MS?

Does anyone have any advice about his diet? I'm thinking I will change it to the Salmon version, as it has an extra .5% of Omega 3 that will help with his skin.

Does anyone feed this one or the ALS to their dogs? I would love to hear any feedback. Thanks

Edited June 12, 2010 by meluchja

[meluchja]

anyone ????

[Janba]

I feed a mixture of raw and kibble because when I go away with the dogs it is easier to feed them kibble and I want them to be used to kibble and not get reactions from a change of diet. Mine are fed once a day with a cup of kibble and the rest raw (adult dalmatian and border collies). So long as you fed a good quality kibble it should be OK.

I know nothing about a mini schnauzers dietary requirements but some mini people will probably be on later who can help you.

[meluchja]

I feed a mixture of raw and kibble because when I go away with the dogs it is easier to feed them kibble and I want them to be used to kibble and not get reactions from a change of diet. Mine are fed once a day with a cup of kibble and the rest raw (adult dalmatian and border collies). So long as you fed a good quality kibble it should be OK.

I know nothing about a mini schnauzers dietary requirements but some mini people will probably be on later who can help you.

Thank you so much Janba, thats the same reason why I wanted to introduce it into bobbies diet. Glad to hear someone else is doing it and having no problems. Thank you for replying

[JulesP]

I feed kibble in the morning and meaty bones at night. Everyone seems to be healthy & happy.

[Guest belgian.blue]

Raw [minced chicken frames for the pup and lamb meat for the adult] for breakfast and dry [with other stuff .. sardines, yoghurt, egg, natures gift etc] in the PM.

On the weekends they both get bones when I'm able to sit outside and watch them, to make sure there is no fighting.

[meluchja]

Thanks for taking the time to reply everyone :rolleyes: It's very reassuring to know I'm on the right track. I have decided to go the Salmon Canidae Grain Free for his Kibble, as I think the little bit extra (0.5%) of the omega 3 will do him good. I have also found a really good butcher that will supply me lamb flap things, looks like the rib bones with meat in between, for $2 a bag, which I can cut up to around 4 ribs per serve giving me around 30 serves per bag, so I think this is really good value. I will give him these during the day, to give him something to chew on and to keep him occupied. And I'll stick to the Canine Country Combo White for breakfast, he loves this. Thanks again everyone for taking the time to reply.

[Jennt]

Charlie gets kibble/dry in the morning and B.A.R.F (raw) at night. He's happy and healthy...

[Adele]

Not sure about the protein and fat percentages but I feed biscuits in the morning and raw at night and we have never had a problem. I do it this way because initially I was too scared to go all raw in case I messed up the diet but I have continued as I leave the biscuits in toys when I go to work and they keep her entertained for awhile.

[twodoggies2001]

it just said what she fed them, mince mixed with kibble, but didn't mention the brand. Nothing for later stages in life either, but I don't mind now. I have moved on and I've been doing my own research since then (as I probably would have anyway :rolleyes: ), and have decided to go down the raw, grain free path. But I did want to still feed kibble so when my mum looks after him when he go away, she doesn't have to deal with raw, as well when he goes into a kennel.

I have ordered a bag of the ALS canidae, but was thinking about changing it to the salmon version. But it has 40% protein and 20%fat, this worries me a little. Do you think these figures are too high for a MS?

20% fat is way too high for a mini schnauzer. I would look around 8%. High fat can lead to pancreatitis. Not sure about the protein. It too sounds high, but the main thing is that it is a good quality animal protein such as chicken, rabbit, egg or cottage cheese, NOT meat by products.

[meluchja]

it just said what she fed them, mince mixed with kibble, but didn't mention the brand. Nothing for later stages in life either, but I don't mind now. I have moved on and I've been doing my own research since then (as I probably would have anyway ), and have decided to go down the raw, grain free path. But I did want to still feed kibble so when my mum looks after him when he go away, she doesn't have to deal with raw, as well when he goes into a kennel.

I have ordered a bag of the ALS canidae, but was thinking about changing it to the salmon version. But it has 40% protein and 20%fat, this worries me a little. Do you think these figures are too high for a MS?

20% fat is way too high for a mini schnauzer. I would look around 8%. High fat can lead to pancreatitis. Not sure about the protein. It too sounds high, but the main thing is that it is a good quality animal protein such as chicken, rabbit, egg or cottage cheese, NOT meat by products.

8% wow really, 20 would seem high then. I don't think I have seen any kibble with only 8% fat. Which one would you recommend? I will look into it more, thanks.

[meluchja]

it just said what she fed them, mince mixed with kibble, but didn't mention the brand. Nothing for later stages in life either, but I don't mind now. I have moved on and I've been doing my own research since then (as I probably would have anyway ), and have decided to go down the raw, grain free path. But I did want to still feed kibble so when my mum looks after him when he go away, she doesn't have to deal with raw, as well when he goes into a kennel.

I have ordered a bag of the ALS canidae, but was thinking about changing it to the salmon version. But it has 40% protein and 20%fat, this worries me a little. Do you think these figures are too high for a MS?

20% fat is way too high for a mini schnauzer. I would look around 8%. High fat can lead to pancreatitis. Not sure about the protein. It too sounds high, but the main thing is that it is a good quality animal protein such as chicken, rabbit, egg or cottage cheese, NOT meat by products.

8% wow really, 20 would seem high then. I don't think I have seen any kibble with only 8% fat. Which one would you recommend? I will look into it more, thanks.

I just had a thought though, if this kibble isn't his whole diet, would that make it o.k.? I would be feeding him just under half of his daily total amount in kibble. The other 50% is canine country raw and the remainder bones. What do you think?

[twodoggies2001]

it just said what she fed them, mince mixed with kibble, but didn't mention the brand. Nothing for later stages in life either, but I don't mind now. I have moved on and I've been doing my own research since then (as I probably would have anyway ), and have decided to go down the raw, grain free path. But I did want to still feed kibble so when my mum looks after him when he go away, she doesn't have to deal with raw, as well when he goes into a kennel.

I have ordered a bag of the ALS canidae, but was thinking about changing it to the salmon version. But it has 40% protein and 20%fat, this worries me a little. Do you think these figures are too high for a MS?

20% fat is way too high for a mini schnauzer. I would look around 8%. High fat can lead to pancreatitis. Not sure about the protein. It too sounds high, but the main thing is that it is a good quality animal protein such as chicken, rabbit, egg or cottage cheese, NOT meat by products.

8% wow really, 20 would seem high then. I don't think I have seen any kibble with only 8% fat. Which one would you recommend? I will look into it more, thanks.

I just had a thought though, if this kibble isn't his whole diet, would that make it o.k.? I would be feeding him just under half of his daily total amount in kibble. The other 50% is canine country raw and the remainder bones. What do you think?

I don't feed mine kibble at all. I feed them, raw and natural. That's my choice entirely, because I am not in favour of processed foods. If you find that there will be times that somebody else needs to feed your pup, why can't you just portion out his meals and freeze them, until needed.