Would You Try To Save These 4 Dogs

[voloclydes]

ok my vet said....

tis surgery but minor..... cost would be $300.00-$500.00 per dog so about 1k all up....they said it can be done by a normal vet and does not need a specialist.... after care would include some ointment or drops... for a short time.

i can't remember if op said they were already spayed, but that could and would be done as the 2 ops.under the same sedation.

[RL1]

ok my vet said....

tis surgery but minor..... cost would be $300.00-$500.00 per dog so about 1k all up....they said it can be done by a normal vet and does not need a specialist.... after care would include some ointment or drops... for a short time.

i can't remember if op said they were already spayed, but that could and would be done as the 2 ops.under the same sedation.

I'm sure that amount could be raised if anyone was serious.

[voloclydes]

well knowing how my finances are at this moment, bit of morgage stress with it going up over $300.00 since last year... but OH would(MAYBE allow me) take on dogs in preference to them being shot/pts (well in the sticks we say shot!).

vet would need pics to give a slightly better quote.... they did say if really bad it may not be fixable.... but without a consult he is just crystal balling....

in 3months i had leo doing a fair bit of obedience, in fact enough tricks that most folks meeting him would like to own him.

with no cost and dol help do you guys think we could find some forever homes? if they come here for a set time.... lets say till end of winter?

with step childs help i could do video and post when dogs get solid with training?

[ChristineX]

Hi Woodbyne,

Duke comes from a pretty similar background - except I don't think any other dogs were around. He has a sweet temperment,and lovely eyes which are probably why nobody (including me) strangled him.

Its been very hard work - and in two years he has come a very long way, but we still have quite a way to go. Keep in mind, that the process is very time consuming - I pretty much ignored my other dog Kate for well over a year to concentrate on fixing his biggest problem - and there was quite a bit of bruises and pain in that too. (for me as well as for him)

If you decide to, bring in a good animal behaviouralist as your top priority. They make an appreciable difference, and boy, do they help speed up the process. I took about 9 months (and really was referred as my dog club had reached the end of their ability to help) and made more progress the first month with the dog shrink than in the previous 9.

I will say that I have learnt more about dogs dealing with Duke in the past two years than in all the years preceeding him. And continue to learn.

And if I ever get another rescue dog - I will be camped on my dog shrink's front door the very next day!

I could not imagine, however, dealing with 4 Dukes at once. I doubt I would have coped. It would depend on the temperment of the dalmations, and if you want to go down this path, maybe an assessment by a good dog shrink before you make up your mind? That would give you a really good idea of what you would be in for.

I hope I have helped.

[Greytmate]

with no cost and dol help do you guys think we could find some forever homes? if they come here for a set time.... lets say till end of winter?

It would first depend on how the dogs went with their behavioural assessment, and then how they went with rehab. I don't know about a 'set time'. They are dogs, and it would depend on whether at that time they were suitable to be placed as pets, whether they needed more work, or whether they aren't suited at all and needed to be pts.

If you had the dogs in your care, it would be up to you to arrange for them to get the rehab they need. You would need to make sure the resources are available to you before you took on the dogs. While DOL is supportive, it is not an emergency rescue organisation and you will still be on your own if things get difficult.

Unless the dog's rehabilitation is taken seriously and proper ethical rescue procedures are followed, you will find that things can get distinctly unsupportive around here too.

The OP has contacted Dalmatian rescue, and they are the best people to advise on this.

[voloclydes]

let me just fill you in...

i have fostered humans.... a dog will not steal out of my wallet nor rob you blind....nor try to make a pass at your OH!

i do not live past the black stump but you can see it from here. so you have to stand on your own feet. there are no services... none. you either do it your self or go with out.

we are lucky to have a bush vet, who does most stuff you only hear of in vet horsepital...in a bush setting without even a theatre.

if the dog were not suitable to re home... what i can promise is they can be pts. same as we do for an animal in this house hold horse included.

as for expecting dol to help, i have been told many times i should have pot plants... not animals. so i would think i would get less than the average for help.

i offered because i did say way back it seemed a shame... to pts. then another poster said unfair of me to say that unless i put my money where my mouth was.... so i thought why not.... stand up for what i believe in.

oh and dally rescue if you have a look in our dally thread has a few and have no room.... not really trying to steal any ones thunder.

[Greytmate]

oh and dally rescue if you have a look in our dally thread has a few and have no room.... not really trying to steal any ones thunder.

That has already been said in this thread. I said that it was important to take their advice, not give them yet another dog to rehome.

[voloclydes]

just to be clear..... you want me not to offer to help?

i do know most of us do not know each other personally, i would find this so much easier over coffee! i am not so eloquent in print!

sorry i have had many dogs that went to god early due to all sorts of problems..... i thought it only right to offer help when it sound like the dogs needed something special. i have a long rural back ground( and acreage so no limit to the amount of dogs i can have apart from mr clydes) so a great deal of animal husbandry experience over lots of animal not just dogs....

the eye problem sounded bad but really bad due to human neglect. i have taken in many a neglected, near deaths door, cast off animal. i thought it might be worth a try.

i know you say it will be hard but nothing ever worth doing is easy!

[RL1]

i know you say it will be hard but nothing ever worth doing is easy!

Exactly.

Good on you for wanting to help.

[Greytmate]

just to be clear..... you want me not to offer to help?

It isn't up to me, they are not my dogs and I don't know you at all.

I just wonder who the "we" is in "do you guys think we could find some forever homes?" At this stage these dogs sound nowhere near ready to find homes for, and if and when they are they will be competing against hundreds of other nice dogs for homes.

If you talk to Dally rescue they will be able to give you a much better idea of how rehomable dogs like these are, and give you specific breed advice on rehabilitation.

i know you say it will be hard but nothing ever worth doing is easy!

Yes, that's right. But there is a limit to what individual people can do, and it is the dogs that suffer if people go over their limit. Plenty of people want to rush in and save animals, and they do it for the right reasons, but there is a lot that can go wrong if you try to cut corners with rescue. Not every dog can or should be saved when there are so many good dogs needing homes.

[voloclydes]

ok now looking for transport doggies are bathurst lithgo area.

i will start phoning trucking people tomorrow.... from bathurst to canberra would be good next week some time... we can be flexialble...

[RL1]

Any update on these dogs ?

[voloclydes]

ok well the op will collect them next wednesday...... and decided how they are outside of there home... then sometime between then and the weekend when i will pick up the one i will foster.....

there will be a mushroom cloud which every dol member will see... that will be when i tell mr clydes.

the rest will be easy. i will say a public thank you to the lovely generous barkon. as she will be helping us....

so only one dally will need to be pts or have a foster carer found.

op takes 2 to re home

me one

that leaves one.

so if your thinking of helping out now is the time to put your hand up! you can pm me or the op.... who is a lovely generous lady in her own right.

[RL1]

Nice work. I hope it all works out for all involved and the dogs get a second chance.

[Greytmate]

I hope this goes well too.

Voloclyde, have you put up a fence or enclosure for the new dog? Young, adult, untrained dogs may not be well-contained by 3-strand barbed wire farm fencing. You may also need to organise an area where you can keep it separate from your own dogs, just in case.

[voloclydes]

i have one normal xxl crate. i have another ordered 2 days or by the end of the week it should be here. we also have 2 houses and 2 yards. my/OH yard is nettting and dog proof. i have barb as a top row.

i also have an old shed and yard which doubles as a dog yard or in the past chook house. no chickens for a very long time...

i too hope it goes well, i don't like sending an animal over the bridge.

i just keep thinking star fish....

the old story of the small child on the beach after a storm throwing back stranded star fish. along comes an adult whom says there isn't any point child.... there are far too many and you will never make a difference.

to which the child answers as throwing another back.... it sure made a difference to that one!

just throwing another star fish back into to the ocean.

[Greytmate]

i have one normal xxl crate. i have another ordered 2 days or by the end of the week it should be here. we also have 2 houses and 2 yards. my/OH yard is nettting and dog proof. i have barb as a top row.

i also have an old shed and yard which doubles as a dog yard or in the past chook house. no chickens for a very long time...

i too hope it goes well, i don't like sending an animal over the bridge.

i just keep thinking star fish....

the old story of the small child on the beach after a storm throwing back stranded star fish. along comes an adult whom says there isn't any point child.... there are far too many and you will never make a difference.

to which the child answers as throwing another back.... it sure made a difference to that one!

just throwing another star fish back into to the ocean.

I am glad you have the crates and dog yards set up.

I really do appreciate what you are doing, you just give a completely different impression of your yard set up in the other thread. You just can't be too careful with new foster dogs, as they are more likely to try to find a way out in the first few days.

There is no need for colourbond, or anything fancy like that.

The best advice I can give is to stay in contact with Dally rescue, and take their advice should you have any problems.

[voloclydes]

i don't often write or type well enough to paint the picture i want... today i am worse i have a man cold....dieing i tell ya.

trust me tho if it is not to be i won't risk any of my lot just to be a martyr!

horus is always in the dally thread.. so i will ask if i need something... oh and my vet is a great mate this year nearly 5k in vet fee's so far!

if they all get on inside will be where it's at snow forecast this week and there is no way i could leave a northern dog out in our weather even with a shed.

[Kirty]

If the remaining dog has a good temperament, and we can get it to Melbourne, I could probably convince my husband to let it come here.

[Lady Flying Furball]

Good on you woodbyne and Voloclydes and Kirty I hope it goes well. I just have to say my judgements really come in toward the original owners...4 untrained dogs and some with cherry eyes...makes me mad I know ut is not helpful but it is truely what happens when I read about these situations.