Would You Try To Save These 4 Dogs

[Ms Genki]

One of my dogs had cherry eye, fortunately the eye was set right again after one day with some topical medication, avoiding surgery. It depends on each dog, but it's not a condition that is so severe that you would euthanise a dog.

Ok so i went to visit the dogs. Two have what looks to me to be cherry eye when i get them i'll get teh vet to check so after reading about it i think those two will have to be put to sleep apparently it isn't painful but the look isn't good and its going to be hard enough to house two that look ok and i think i'll be better to concentrate on the other two. Dalmatian rescue is full at the moment but happy to advertise them. So looks like i'll take 2 in 2 weeks but if they are too stressed i think the kindest thing is to put them too sleep if really really bad. If they are ok with people we can work on the environmental side of things but can't have fear biters they didn't appear to be. Oh well i'll keep you posted

Edited May 31, 2010 by Ms Genki

[voloclydes]

that was what i thought reading the link. they said if not corrected you might need drops.

[joanne76]

You dont necesarrily need a specialist to correct Cherry Eye. The vet at Concord West veterinery clinic does this surgery.

I had a Chi x who was rescued from the pound, she had severe Cherry eye in both eyes which were corrected with surgery at Concord and she looks brilliant now.

I wouldnt euthanise a dog just because of Cherry eye..

[_PL_]

You dont necesarrily need a specialist to correct Cherry Eye. The vet at Concord West veterinery clinic does this surgery.

I had a Chi x who was rescued from the pound, she had severe Cherry eye in both eyes which were corrected with surgery at Concord and she looks brilliant now.

I wouldnt euthanise a dog just because of Cherry eye..

Same. It's not a huge deal, just fiddly and cosmetically not appealing for rehoming. If you can find a vet who has done it before there is no need for specialist or PTS. Have it done while the dog is under for desexing.

What area are you in? If you post about the dogs in the rescue section you might get a bit more advice about vets and temp testing before you jump in and commit.

[GardenofEden]

Ok so i went to visit the dogs. Two have what looks to me to be cherry eye when i get them i'll get teh vet to check so after reading about it i think those two will have to be put to sleep apparently it isn't painful but the look isn't good and its going to be hard enough to house two that look ok and i think i'll be better to concentrate on the other two. Dalmatian rescue is full at the moment but happy to advertise them. So looks like i'll take 2 in 2 weeks but if they are too stressed i think the kindest thing is to put them too sleep if really really bad. If they are ok with people we can work on the environmental side of things but can't have fear biters they didn't appear to be. Oh well i'll keep you posted

Surely you must have more heart than sentencing two dogs to death simply because they have cherry eye? should humans that don't conform to a Miss World or Mr. Universe pageant be killed? Perhaps you should consider surrendering them to a dalmation rescue organization. You seem to have a take it or leave it attitude. Having the dogs put to sleep without seeing if someone would be prepared to take them on is simply cutting corners. I had a shih tzu that had a tear gland that had prolapsed (cherry eye) and I found that massaging it with eye ointment and then pushing it in eventually worked and the gland never prolapsed again; there is no guarantee that this will succeed in all cases but it's darn well worth the try! AND what do you mean that you would consider putting the other two dalmations without the cherry eye issue to sleep if they appear stressed? There is a chance that they may be stressed when they find themselves in a strange environment, time and patience is the key and you clearly don't have much patience. If you are intent in taking them in then give them the best chance at a new life and do NOT take shortcuts. The only reason you have to have them put down is if they appear to be AGGRESSIVE, aside from that NO EXCUSES ENTERED INTO!

Anyone wanting to give dogs a 2nd chance should be taking them in on that premise otherwise do NOT bother.

Home Treatment Options

# Surgical options aimed at treating cherry eye can range up to $1,000 depending on what part of the country you live in. There is a massage option that can possibly work to correct canine cherry eye. Dog owners that report success using massage and antibiotic ointments also indicate that they began the process as soon as they noticed the cherry eye. The longer the dog has the condition, the less likely it is that the gland will go back into place without surgical support. The massage method involves gently closing the dog's outer eyelid and then carefully pushing without using much pressure on the area at the corner of the eye where the cherry is located. The idea is to push gently toward the dog's nose in an attempt to pop the gland back into place. Some dog owners report success after three to four massage sessions; others indicated it took more than a week of massage. Many used warm compresses to ease the process. Frequently, the massage solution is only temporarily and the gland pops back out. However, some dog owners report success after repeated tries. A word of caution is necessary to new dog owners. The area being massaged is very delicate and mishandling can result in damage to the eyeball if not done properly.

Edited May 31, 2010 by GardenofEden

[nillasdad]

Surely you must have more heart than sentencing two dogs to death simply because they have cherry eye? should humans that don't conform to a Miss World or Mr. Universe pageant be killed? Perhaps you should consider surrendering them to a dalmation rescue organization. You seem to have a take it or leave it attitude. Having the dogs put to sleep without seeing if someone would be prepared to take them on is simply cutting corners.

Firstly, they're Dalmatians not Dalmations, secondly it's highly unlikely that any rescue organisation will take on any dog that needs a costly medical procedure. There are far too many dogs out there needing help, and the funds would be better spent helping them. It's not cutting corners, it's called being realistic.

[tdierikx]

GardenofEden - you might like to go back to the original post and have another read... the dogs do not belong to the OP, but to a workmate.

The OP feels they can only handle the two dogs that don't require extra surgical procedures... and that's a whole lot better than sitting back and doing nothing...

T.

[Slushie]

GardenofEden, perhaps you should applaude someone for putting their time and money out there to help two dogs who are not their own. The OP is offering two dogs a chance - instead of having 4 dogs pts.

Woodbyne I wish you all the luck with the dogs.

[GardenofEden]

Surely you must have more heart than sentencing two dogs to death simply because they have cherry eye? should humans that don't conform to a Miss World or Mr. Universe pageant be killed? Perhaps you should consider surrendering them to a dalmation rescue organization. You seem to have a take it or leave it attitude. Having the dogs put to sleep without seeing if someone would be prepared to take them on is simply cutting corners.

Firstly, they're Dalmatians not Dalmations, secondly it's highly unlikely that any rescue organisation will take on any dog that needs a costly medical procedure. There are far too many dogs out there needing help, and the funds would be better spent helping them. It's not cutting corners, it's called being realistic.

Oh so sorry for getting the spelling wrong. Are u going to make a point of correcting everyone's spelling mistake? lol

[GardenofEden]

GardenofEden, perhaps you should applaude someone for putting their time and money out there to help two dogs who are not their own. The OP is offering two dogs a chance - instead of having 4 dogs pts.

Woodbyne I wish you all the luck with the dogs.

I would be the 1st one to applaud someone wanting to help someone else's dogs, dogs that are no longer wanted but to contemplate having them put down BEFORE trying other avenues is taking short cuts as far as I am concerned. One would think that with the internet at everyone's fingertips that the OP would have researched information pertaining to the condition "cherry eye" instead of taking the quicker easy way out and have them destroyed.

I also didn't particularly like the attitude that if the other two dogs show signs of stress she would also have them destroyed.

Aggression is one thing but stress is quite another.

[GardenofEden]

GardenofEden - you might like to go back to the original post and have another read... the dogs do not belong to the OP, but to a workmate.

The OP feels they can only handle the two dogs that don't require extra surgical procedures... and that's a whole lot better than sitting back and doing nothing...

T.

Yes I realise that the dogs belonged to the OP's workmate. The OP was also contemplating taking on all 4 dogs so why not weigh up other options pertaining to the two dogs with the cherry eye problem instead of wanting to put them to sleep ??????

[Slushie]

GardenofEden, you should go and have a look at rescue... see the numerous dogs without any issues at all pts. There just are not the resources out there.

Are you prepared to take on these two other dogs? If not, get off your soapbox. Those who deal with rescue have enough to contend with, without your crap.

And yes I do have a rescue dog - she did have issues. Was petrified of squeeky toys, was overprotective and didn't have basic training.

[voloclydes]

if you are going to pts and the either of the other 2 won't be likely to kill my jrts. then i will take one on... so long as there is not hundreds of dollars in transport costs... i will give it a bash, we do have a few dogs but one more what the hell.

i think tis a shame, to see a humans neglect of a minor issue be the death of a dog....

but does some one want to volunteer to tell my OH.... :D

i might just have to be really nice to him for a while

[RL1]

What would be the likely transport cost ?

[spottychick]

The posts from the OP can be a little confusing. Are you saying you might pts the two dogs you take if they are stressed or fear biters???? I hope you will give them time to settle and work with them if they are snapping out of fear before deciding to do that. My fella Tango bit me a couple of times out of fear but we seem to be dealing with that okay.

As for the cherry-eye issue, doesn't sound like a huge problem but then it's not something I know a lot about. Perhaps it's worth treating them - what if they have the best temperaments in the world? It would be a tragedy to lose them just because they need a little help with an eye issue (again - so does Tango!!!) Would donations help with this?

[voloclydes]

well that is relative....

if one our truck driving mates is going to sydney the cost would be a crate of beer or grease the drivers palm and dog would ride in the front with driver...most like a freebie if the right driver.

or i drive to sydney i think last week that cost me about $100.00 give or take some tolls...

or we get a doggie transport company to do it and it will cost a squillion dollars. :D

all depends how urgent the need is.....

option 1 on a truck means i start making a million phone calls.... over the next few days and nights....other times this can take a week of chasing leads to get some one...although i do know a few drivers so... sydney will be easy.... tying to cross 2 states is hard!

option 2 means i could do on the weekend... no keen but could do a day run..

doggie transport well that can happen any time.

[nillasdad]

Oh so sorry for getting the spelling wrong. Are u going to make a point of correcting everyone's spelling mistake?

No, only those high up on their soap boxes cluelessly attacking others...

[Miss BeRidgierent]

GardenofEden - you might like to go back to the original post and have another read... the dogs do not belong to the OP, but to a workmate.

The OP feels they can only handle the two dogs that don't require extra surgical procedures... and that's a whole lot better than sitting back and doing nothing...

T.

Yes I realise that the dogs belonged to the OP's workmate. The OP was also contemplating taking on all 4 dogs so why not weigh up other options pertaining to the two dogs with the cherry eye problem instead of wanting to put them to sleep ??????

Well why don't you offer to take those 2 dogs on? Instead of causing confrontation. Both in the same state.

[GardenofEden]

GardenofEden - you might like to go back to the original post and have another read... the dogs do not belong to the OP, but to a workmate.

The OP feels they can only handle the two dogs that don't require extra surgical procedures... and that's a whole lot better than sitting back and doing nothing...

T.

Yes I realise that the dogs belonged to the OP's workmate. The OP was also contemplating taking on all 4 dogs so why not weigh up other options pertaining to the two dogs with the cherry eye problem instead of wanting to put them to sleep ??????

Well why don't you offer to take those 2 dogs on? Instead of causing confrontation. Both in the same state.

If I could I most certainly would! I have a few dogs of my own and my hands are full so I can no longer foster any more dogs but a few of those that I own are rescue dogs that would have otherwise been put to sleep. I have 2 blind dogs, a deaf dog, one with a cherry eye problem that cannot be handled as he bites every time he is picked up but is otherwise healthy and happy. If I was in a situation where I could have fostered these two dalmatians with the cherry eye problem I would have done so gladly without contemplating the idea of having them put to sleep. Where there is a will there is a way.

I would like to emphasise that I have never attempted to rehome my deaf, blind and cherry eye dogs; they're very happy here and will stay here till their dying day.

[Miss BeRidgierent]

GardenofEden - you might like to go back to the original post and have another read... the dogs do not belong to the OP, but to a workmate.

The OP feels they can only handle the two dogs that don't require extra surgical procedures... and that's a whole lot better than sitting back and doing nothing...

T.

Yes I realise that the dogs belonged to the OP's workmate. The OP was also contemplating taking on all 4 dogs so why not weigh up other options pertaining to the two dogs with the cherry eye problem instead of wanting to put them to sleep ??????

Well why don't you offer to take those 2 dogs on? Instead of causing confrontation. Both in the same state.

If I could I most certainly would! I have a few dogs of my own and my hands are full so I can no longer foster any more dogs but a few of those that I own are rescue dogs that would have otherwise been put to sleep. I have 2 blind dogs, a deaf dog, one with a cherry eye problem that cannot be handled as he bites every time he is picked up but is otherwise healthy and happy. If I was in a situation where I could have fostered these two dalmatians with the cherry eye problem I would have done so gladly without contemplating the idea of having them put to sleep. Where there is a will there is a way.

I would like to emphasise that I have never attempted to rehome my deaf, blind and cherry eye dogs; they're very happy here and will stay here till their dying day.

Understood but you just pointed out the exact reason why the OP can't take on 4 extra dogs. She isn't in the rescue industry nor the dog training industry. Therefore taking on an extra 4 dogs (as you may know) is a lot of work. I think give her some slack she is trying to do the right thing. What she is also saying is because the dogs are dog and people aggressive what are the chances of them being taken in and rehabilitated? with all the other dogs out there that need saving. These guys sadly enough have a slim chance. Its a way of life unfortunately.... they just all can't be saved.