Would You Try To Save These 4 Dogs

[woodbyne]

Hi

Someone at work is desperate to get rid of her 4 dalmatians ok thats fine.. (well not fine but i can deal with that), financial and family reasons that i wont even go on about here will take way too long

Issue is

They are 18 months old 2 girls 2 boys from the SAME litter. Mother died having the pups and dad "ran away".... they are purebred of course no papers the parents don't have papers but look purebred but of course could never be 100% sure

They have never been off their property never even had a collar on and have no manners at allthey are vaccinated they actually had the vet out to do that which i thought was strange considering the rest of the neglect but i'll also believe it if i see a vax certificate.

I'm willing to take them and try and rehabilitate them i haven't seen them yet and my belief is that if they are aggressive to people,kids or dogs unfortunately i will have to have that one or all if they are all like that put to sleep. I honestly don't think it would be fair to pass on a dog like that to another family. I think if i try to retrain them i will have them desexed after a fair amount of training so i can check out their temperaments before going ot the expense of desexing 4 dogs my husband isn't too happy about that type of vet bill....

I'm in two minds go for it and try or forget it and just have them put to sleep. Has anyone tried rehabilitating dogs that are this messed up. To be honest they might not even be messed up but i'm just imagining them the boys can't go together or they will fight i have dog runs to keep them seperatley in but i'm not sure if i'm just wasting my time even considering this. Love to hear some opinions so i can make a decision i'm just so confused but also upset that the poor dogs have been neglected mentally they aren't starved or mistreated in a mean way just no socialisation or skills to help them intergrate into society

Thanks

Edited May 26, 2010 by woodbyne

[tdierikx]

You could see if Dally Rescue would be able to take on one or more of these dogs...

http://www.dalmatiansofnsw.org.au/rescue.htm

T.

[joanne76]

Yep i agree with tdeirikx.

4 may be too many for you to take on at one time. Try to get Dally Rescue or any other rescue to take at least 2 of them and you take the others. That would give them the best hope of rehabilitating.

[mokhahouse]

I am no expert but I think they would be better if you could take on one or two and get a rescue to help with the others. I would think 4 litter mates raised together with no training would be a full time job to train all of them. They would never be rehomed all together so separating them sooner rather than later may be a good thing. Molly came to us as a one year old with absolutely no training what so ever and she is a fantastic dog. Please dont think they cant be helped. If even one of the four can be rehomed wouldnt that make it worth trying to find out.

[Scarlet]

I agree that you'll probably need to work with a reliable, experienced rescue group.

At least check them out so you have some idea what they are like.

Unfortunately not all dogs can or should be rehomed but I think they may need someone experienced in assessments to check them out and give guidance along the way.

[percyk]

definitely a kind thing

a noble act

but definitely get support

dallies are big strong dogs

not the easiest to train either

but some or even all of these dogs might be ok..naturally

its not like theyre that old either

id give it a go but have some extra hands on deck

[ILK]

I have to agree with the others. 4 untrained dogs at once is far too much for you and them to be rehabilitated. You are kind and understanding, but I think the dogs will have a better chance if split up.

[perrin]

4 untrained dals.

[Greytmate]

I would have them assessed before you make any decision to take one or all. Until you do you really don't know how much responsibility you are taking on.

Your attitude of not wanting to pass on problems to a family is really commendable. Plenty of people say they are willing to take on problem dogs, few are able to cope with them. If you are selling these dogs (which is what rehoming is), they need to be of at least pet quality.

[spottychick]

This story makes me angry - not at woodbyne of course!

Get hold of Dally rescue - although they already have a few - they can give you advice etc. Remember that dogs can be trained - I just adopted a dally at 9 years old who had never been walked and had been neglected and had no manners. He even bit me and attacked my other dog several times. But he is turning into a really nice fella. So don't just dismiss any of them for their behaviour - especially at that age with no proper guidance. But it's a tough job to take on so you definitely need to get help with it all and I don't think you could take all four at once.

Have you posted in the dally thread?

[Christina]

Yes. Someone who lives near me had a 5 year old malamute cross, moving & didn't know what to do with the dog.

Never been outside the property, on a lead, house trained, visited a vet, lived inside or taught anything much.

I got in touch with a lovely rescue person. The dog has new owners, is inside, started walking on a lead & is settling well according to the info the owner told me. He was non aggressive & used to small children.

I would also try & split them up or keep them seperate as much as possible. They will bond better with people instead of each other & pack mentality has less chance.

Dalmations are not the easiest dogs to train but as long as they are not aggressive its may work out fine.

[horus]

Have someone contact Dalmatian Welfare, phone numbers are listed on this page:

http://www.dalmatiansofnsw.org.au/rescue1.html

We already have a few dogs in care, so we would not be able to take any of these dogs but we certainly would be able to help out as much as we can.

[nillasdad]

not the easiest to train either

?????

[spottychick]

not the easiest to train either

?????

I've never had a problem training dallies. You just have to know how - ie they are intelligent and strong-willed and won't just do something 'because they're told to' (it's why I like them). They will do almost anything for treats tho LOL

[woodbyne]

Ok so i went to visit the dogs. Two have what looks to me to be cherry eye when i get them i'll get teh vet to check so after reading about it i think those two will have to be put to sleep apparently it isn't painful but the look isn't good and its going to be hard enough to house two that look ok and i think i'll be better to concentrate on the other two. Dalmatian rescue is full at the moment but happy to advertise them. So looks like i'll take 2 in 2 weeks but if they are too stressed i think the kindest thing is to put them too sleep if really really bad. If they are ok with people we can work on the environmental side of things but can't have fear biters they didn't appear to be. Oh well i'll keep you posted

[voloclydes]

i am a bit..... slow but what is cherry eye?

does it cause health problems or just cosmetic?

if it is a home or pst.... please do not...

pm me and i will see what i can do... althought hangs head we were in sydney this week.

[woodbyne]

I only knew about cherry eye after reading abouut it in a dogs nsw journal about 12 months ago of course i can't find that issue now but here is a link also use google images to see what it looks like

http://pet-diseases.suite101.com/article.c...rry_eye_in_dogs

it certainly looks like that to me but i'm not vet hence why i want the vet to look at them they boy is quite bad with the red lump covering most of his eye. Its actually a prolapsed tear duct can be fixed with surgery but i don't have that kind of money to spend on these poor kids different if they were my own and they had homes to go to and didn't have any temperament problems.... i honestly believe we can't save them all but we can save the really good ones

[Greytmate]

I only knew about cherry eye after reading abouut it in a dogs nsw journal about 12 months ago of course i can't find that issue now but here is a link also use google images to see what it looks like

http://pet-diseases.suite101.com/article.c...rry_eye_in_dogs

it certainly looks like that to me but i'm not vet hence why i want the vet to look at them they boy is quite bad with the red lump covering most of his eye. Its actually a prolapsed tear duct can be fixed with surgery but i don't have that kind of money to spend on these poor kids different if they were my own and they had homes to go to and didn't have any temperament problems.... i honestly believe we can't save them all but we can save the really good ones

Better to do a really good job of rehoming the two easiest dogs, than to take on all four dogs and not be able to deal with them properly.

Good on you for helping them.

[voloclydes]

maybe if you approached a uni? like sydney and explained they "might be able to use dogies as practice and the op may not cost.... most people don't like to see a dog who is healthy and no personality probs pst.

i know wagga uni will do work with dogs and cats for rspca etc to improve the chances of re homing mainly de sexes but other stuff too.

[Kirty]

Cherry eye is not a huge deal, but really needs to be fixed by a specialist. Where are these dogs? Could the ones with cherry eye get to Victoria?