woodbyne Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 My bitch is now on day 15 of her season and my boy just isn't interested yet. Is this normal or should i be worried. I was really hoping to mate them i know she cycles late but this is getting crazy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 (edited) How old is your boy? Wish mine didn't care. He froths at the mouth at the scent of a bitch (in season or not), and his eyes go that 'glazy far away look'. He looks silly. Boys . Edited May 15, 2010 by Erny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 My bitch is now on day 15 of her season and my boy just isn't interested yet. Is this normal or should i be worried. I was really hoping to mate them i know she cycles late but this is getting crazy.... Trust your dog. If he's not interested then she's not ready. I wouldn't worry at Day 15, every bitch is different. You could always get a progesterone test done so you know where she is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodbyne Posted May 15, 2010 Author Share Posted May 15, 2010 He is 10 yrs old we were hoping for a last litter from him others have used him at stud but this is the first time i've had a bitch thats i feel is suitable to be bred from so i'm just hoping hes not past it.... He is sniffing the ground and licking where she wee'd but not interested in her... i'm not racing out to have him sperm tested i feel if its meant to be its meant to be just so funny all her other seasons i was paranoid about him getting to her made sure they weren't in the run next to each other so we didn't have any accidents and now hes just not interested... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodbyne Posted May 15, 2010 Author Share Posted May 15, 2010 I had thought of going to the vet and doing that but as hes old anyway i think i'll just let nature take its course if its not meant to be its not meant to be she still has a blood discharge. I think i also noticed the split second she came in season as we were at a show and noticed the tiniest speck of discharge it then took a couple of days before she was obviously in and was bleeding more and swollen so i guess i'm answering my own questions as i write i think i just need to be patient.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ophnbark Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Some males are fantastic at judging exactly when the girls are ready and won't bother showing any excitement until then. One of our bitches only mates on day 17 and that's it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodbyne Posted May 15, 2010 Author Share Posted May 15, 2010 Ok now i'll stop thinking about it. I'll let you know how we go in the next few days. Our old mutt that we inherited who was entire until we fixed that i'm sure has sired many litters around our area isn't that interested in her either so i guess the boys just know. Normally when shes full on in he still tries to hump her she will even lay down so he can hop on but haven't seen that display yet. So more waiting... Thanks guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancinbcs Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 I've had one not ready until day 26. She had 7 puppies and the dog was not interested at all until day 26. If she is still bleeding she is not ready. Just be patient, your dog knows what he is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodbyne Posted May 16, 2010 Author Share Posted May 16, 2010 Yes she is still bleeding which is why i half wasn't worried ok ..... yes i'm paranoid i wouldn't be so worried but i know if we miss this opportunity we wont get another. I'm waiting for the "straw colour" but its definately still blood shes been weeing alot more today almost cocking her leg. Today my boy was actually following her for a little while and also licked her so maybe tommorrow.... Thanks so much for telling me about your bitch being mated day 26 and still had puppies. Patience...patience... patience mmmm easer said than done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pebbles Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 I had a Min Pin girl come for a service. Owners brought her on the 6th day and I put her in with the boy. Nothing - he didn't even look at her right through the next weeks. Fortunately her owners were going on holidays so she stayed with me. Day 21 - bingo! She had 5 lovely pups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodbyne Posted May 16, 2010 Author Share Posted May 16, 2010 Tried agian this morning day 17 he is starting to lick her had a little flirt then both went on their merry ways. So i put them in the run together hoping he wouldn't then have to chase her nope he sniffed her licked her and went into his kennel grrr this is an exercise in frustration... patience patience..... just worried i'll miss the opportunity i guess you have to keep trying each day??? Thanks for the replies its the only thing keeping my hopes from totally deflating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancinbcs Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Tried agian this morning day 17 he is starting to lick her had a little flirt then both went on their merry ways. So i put them in the run together hoping he wouldn't then have to chase her nope he sniffed her licked her and went into his kennel grrr this is an exercise in frustration... patience patience..... just worried i'll miss the opportunity i guess you have to keep trying each day???Thanks for the replies its the only thing keeping my hopes from totally deflating Sounds like she is getting closer. They can go from not being ready to being ready in the space of a couple of hours or they can be nearly ready for several days. Older experienced stud dogs don't bother wasting energy until they are spot on so just let your boy decide. The other thing I have observed with experienced stud dogs is that if the bitch has a full season but does not ovulate (shown by prog tests) the dog seems to know and won't bother trying to mate her. Prog testing can be very handy but for me the best ovulation detector has always been a stud dog that knows what he is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodbyne Posted May 17, 2010 Author Share Posted May 17, 2010 Hi Update Back from the vets i took both of them as they said they would do an AI but.... obviously my boy aint stupid cause shes not ready yet.... He just lay on the floor in the waiting room she was a bit antsy he would have gone to sleep...... so much for males coming from everywhere to mate with her... He said let them together in the morning and night each day and just wait and see..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ophnbark Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Clever boy, he certainly isn't silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodbyne Posted May 18, 2010 Author Share Posted May 18, 2010 Hi Again Well it is now day 18 of her season. It must be slooooowly progressing. My boy is now interested and put them in the run together this morning and he tried getting on but she moves away all flirty come and get me and then he tries again and she rolls over. Her discharge is still a pinky colour so i think its not quite right yet will try again tonight and i'm going to ring the vets about an AI as he is old he can't really cope well with her flirting. I'm also going halves with a breeder in a progesterone tests as this will be my only litter and they last for only 6 months and there is 10 tests to a kit so at least we can see where we are up to. The progestrone tests are $300 each so glad i can go halves with someone she is hoping to breed her two bitches really soon so it works out well. Is it normal for the bitches to flirt and roll over on their backs lets hope tonight she doesn't act stupid..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aziah Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Are you a registered breeder? Progesterone testing is nver at a cost of $300 - think you might need to check that out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodbyne Posted May 19, 2010 Author Share Posted May 19, 2010 Hello, YES i am a registered breeder this is a very wanted and planned mating taking over 2 years to ensure both dogs had had all health checks and were healthy and titled before even thinking of breeding. It is my first litter and i don't plan on breeding again until i want another puppy. I wont be breeding for the sake of it only when i know i have two dogs that i think will be match up nicely hence the time it has taken to arrange this and the decisons. The price of $300 was the price quoted from the vets as he doesn't stock prog tests as he said he doesn't have the need for them generally and there is only a shelf life on 6 months. You have to buy a whole kit that has 10 tests in it but as i'm definately not planning another litter in the near future so 10 tests in an over kill for me. I have owned showed and trialled pedigree dogs for over 20 years but this is the first time i felt i have had a bitch that it worthy of being bred from and my male is of equal value unfortunalte he is quite old so we are going in at 11am tommorrow to have an AI as she is so flirty with him being a maiden bitch he is an experienced stud others have used him but i haven't had a bitch taht i would breed from before for various reason but she keeps putting him off with her rough games...... I definately wouldn't say i'm a breeder however i don't think i should be flamed for only wanting to breed one litter i lready have a 6 people who want a pup. I'm only breeding quality and definately not quantity so i hope people don't look down on me for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ish Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 For the prog tests I've had done, the vet takes blood from the bitch and sends it off to a lab for reading - then the results are faxed back. I would be worried about the accuracy of a 'prog test kit' - the vet should only need to stock the correct tubes to put the blood in for the lab. Good luck with the AI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aziah Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 (edited) Woodbyne, it's an expensive way to do progesterone testing but not unknown...Frozen Puppies sell those kits and the machines and they aren't cheap from memory. Could you ask your vet to take blood and send off to their pathology lab for the reading? It should only cost you around $60 that way Edited May 19, 2010 by Aziah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodbyne Posted May 19, 2010 Author Share Posted May 19, 2010 Since my boy is whinging like CRAZZZY!!! The vet is pretty confident it will be the right time i think if i now wait for any type of test we might miss so its time to do AI. $45 for the consult and $33 for the AI. This isn't my usual vet as she is away and i don't like the locum she gets in but the friend of mine who breeds has recommended him and he has a pretty good reputation around town as a fertility specialist or as the vet nurse said on the phone hes the best wa.k.r in town and we don't pay for the AI unless he actually get some semen out and then we can test how fertile he is. Fingers and paws crossed for something. When we decided to do it i said i'm not going to stress about it let nature take its course if it doesn't happen its not meant to be but..... reality hits and a different story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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