Rileys mum Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 Hi everyone. Ok so now I'm DEFINATELY removing dry kibble from my dogs diet and going the way of the barf diet I wish to try making the patties at home but I can't seem to find any recipes with quantaties (eg X amount of mince, 2 carrots, 1 cup of peas etc etc) Is anyone able to help me out??? Also, I have a 4 month old German short haired pointer and I really want to ensure he is getting everything he needs in his diet. Are chicken necks, wings , carcuses and lamb shanks a good enough variation for the raw bones aspect of the diet?? someone also once told me it's bad to get the butcher to cut the bone down the center so the marrow is exposed as marrow has a lot of bad fats in it...... Is this actually true?? Thanks in advance and sorry if this has been done hundreds of times before I'm really new to this but am soooo keen to do right by my beautiful boy cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megan_ Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 Personally, when I feed BARF I don't do the pattie thing - I think they're contrary to what DrB originally promoted. I use meaty bones (chicken wings and lamb necks), occasionally give them a bit of offal, and vege slop thing with a few sardines. I wouldn't feed my dogs mince as it doesn't contain bone (unless it is pet-grade chicken mince) and their teeth don't get cleaned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 I've used Poodlefan's recipe before: Here's the recipe I used to make my BARF mixIngredients 4 eggs (or can be added prior to serving) 1 small container of low fat natural yogurt 2 tablespoons of flax seed oil (I'm using a blend of oils these days called Megaderm) 4 tablespoons of Missing Link/Greenpet or other diet supplement as per dosage (optional) 2 kg of mixed fruit and veggies (I use some root veggies, some fruit and some green veggies in every mix) 1 kg full fat beef mince 1 large piece of liver or a few kidneys Method 1. Add eggs, yogurt, flax seed oil and Missing Link to huge bowl (I use a big laundry bucket) and blend well 2. Add the mince and mix well . Remove cat from kitchen bench. 3. Juice a little of the fruit and veggies. Add some of the juice to a blender and blend the offal until smooth. Resist urge to smell mix – you will regret it. Try not to vomit at result’s appearance and add to main ingredients. 4. Run the rest of the fruit and veggies through the juicer or blender. Add all the pulp to the mix and enough juice to obtain a firm but not sloppy consistency. You should end up with about 30% mince mix and the rest is veggies. 6. Remove cat from bench again. 7. Cave in and give a little of fresh mince and mix to cat 8. Put into storage containers and freeze. My mix is evolved over time. I’ve used other additives like Power Blend, Barley Grass Power, Brewers Yeast, Vitamin C – I just change them from time to time. Currently I'm adding the an egg, Vitamin C, E and oil to each mix just before feeding. I'm using quite a bit of pumpking in the mix these days to keep my dog Lily's anal glands moving. My large dog owning friends do all the stages from 1 to 3 and then freeze the mix, juicing fresh veggies separately to add to it. This cuts down on freezer space and the time taken to make the mix. If you find your dog is not accepting the mix, add a little more fresh mince to their feed and slowly reduce the amount of mince they receive. I agree with the part about resisting the urge to smell the liver juice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mas1981 Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 Wish I had a small dog, my freezer is not big enough!! I've used Poodlefan's recipe before:Here's the recipe I used to make my BARF mixIngredients 4 eggs (or can be added prior to serving) 1 small container of low fat natural yogurt 2 tablespoons of flax seed oil (I'm using a blend of oils these days called Megaderm) 4 tablespoons of Missing Link/Greenpet or other diet supplement as per dosage (optional) 2 kg of mixed fruit and veggies (I use some root veggies, some fruit and some green veggies in every mix) 1 kg full fat beef mince 1 large piece of liver or a few kidneys Method 1. Add eggs, yogurt, flax seed oil and Missing Link to huge bowl (I use a big laundry bucket) and blend well 2. Add the mince and mix well . Remove cat from kitchen bench. 3. Juice a little of the fruit and veggies. Add some of the juice to a blender and blend the offal until smooth. Resist urge to smell mix – you will regret it. Try not to vomit at result’s appearance and add to main ingredients. 4. Run the rest of the fruit and veggies through the juicer or blender. Add all the pulp to the mix and enough juice to obtain a firm but not sloppy consistency. You should end up with about 30% mince mix and the rest is veggies. 6. Remove cat from bench again. 7. Cave in and give a little of fresh mince and mix to cat 8. Put into storage containers and freeze. My mix is evolved over time. I’ve used other additives like Power Blend, Barley Grass Power, Brewers Yeast, Vitamin C – I just change them from time to time. Currently I'm adding the an egg, Vitamin C, E and oil to each mix just before feeding. I'm using quite a bit of pumpking in the mix these days to keep my dog Lily's anal glands moving. My large dog owning friends do all the stages from 1 to 3 and then freeze the mix, juicing fresh veggies separately to add to it. This cuts down on freezer space and the time taken to make the mix. If you find your dog is not accepting the mix, add a little more fresh mince to their feed and slowly reduce the amount of mince they receive. I agree with the part about resisting the urge to smell the liver juice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoL Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 So can I ask how much in quantity are you supposed to give, say, a 15kg dog per day? Is there a percentage you work by or do you just go by eyes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavsRcute Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 For my 7 year old girl I give 2% of body weight but for a puppy it might be different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisovar Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 Hi everyone. Ok so now I'm DEFINATELY removing dry kibble from my dogs diet and going the way of the barf diet I wish to try making the patties at home but I can't seem to find any recipes with quantaties (eg X amount of mince, 2 carrots, 1 cup of peas etc etc) Is anyone able to help me out??? Also, I have a 4 month old German short haired pointer and I really want to ensure he is getting everything he needs in his diet. Are chicken necks, wings , carcuses and lamb shanks a good enough variation for the raw bones aspect of the diet?? someone also once told me it's bad to get the butcher to cut the bone down the center so the marrow is exposed as marrow has a lot of bad fats in it...... Is this actually true?? Thanks in advance and sorry if this has been done hundreds of times before I'm really new to this but am soooo keen to do right by my beautiful boy :D cheers There is no exact recipe for patties, you will find heaps of variations if you search the topics here, or have a read of Billinghursts books. As far as bones go, the bigger the variety the better, and unless you have a obese dog there is nothing wrong with an active healthy dog eating fat, dogs need fats, why remove essential fats from a dogs diet only to have to add something else for coat and skin. Lamb breasts are also good bones as are roo tails, lamb necks, turkey necks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisovar Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 So can I ask how much in quantity are you supposed to give, say, a 15kg dog per day? Is there a percentage you work by or do you just go by eyes? For the average not overly active dog 2% - 3% of their body weight would be a rough starting point, but all dogs have different requirements, some dog burn up huge amounts of energy and need a considerable amount more, some will do well on the smell of food. You really need to be able to judge the body condition of your dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fox Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 There's a BARF pattie recipe in the Ian Billinghurst book 'The BARF Diet' I'd also recommend you read that and 'Give Your Dog A Bone' if you are intererested in feeding a raw diet. The first book (the barf diet) is a basic rundown of the BARF diet, what it involves, why you should feed it and the pattie recipes for both dogs and cats. The second book (give your dog a bone) goes into a lot more detail on what you can feed and how to feed it. They also cover ratios (meat to veg to bone etc) and recommended feeding amounts. You can buy them from here: http://www.barfaustralia.com/products.php?pid=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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