Bouledogue Français Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 (edited) Looks like he is very down on pastern and one foot turns out, very similar to my boy but my boy was not as bad, please please get a second opinion, it may well be the fact that he is growing way too fast, maybe diet related, etc... I wouldnt be doing anything until I had a another opinion, and not just from any vet either. Edited to add: What State are you in?? As somebody may be able to direct you to another vet. Edited January 10, 2005 by Brigantia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BDA Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Based on the size of the joints it's possible the pup has HOD - I'd get him to another vet asap and have some x-rays done. This may give you some further clues as the younger the dog the more dangerous this condition becomes. Sorry, I misread your initial post and thought the breedre was willing to take the pup back. Is he at least willing to pay the vet bills for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Given the diet & living conditions...I would strongly suggest you go to a specialist,Or at least vet "hospital" where they are prepared to do some tests to discover what is needed!!!! A raw meat only diet can cause ALL sorts of nutrition problems!!!The bones just DON't get the minerals they need to grow properly.... PLEASE contact a specialist before you make ANY decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BDA Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 One more thing - if it is HOD then calcium supplementation is highly contraindicted for that condition. Pls get a second opinion asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne Posted January 10, 2005 Author Share Posted January 10, 2005 Yes, I have completely changed his diet. He now has chicken wings, necks and mince plus puppy milk and cereal. I have seen some improvement in the way he walks since he arrived. He reminded me of a battery chicken when I first saw his walking style. I have also been giving him plently of excerise thinking this would help strength his little legs. Perhaps this has now been incorrect ?? Will definately be getting a second opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne Posted January 10, 2005 Author Share Posted January 10, 2005 I live just outside Canberra ACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BDA Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 I would be very careful about exercise until you know for sure. If it is HOD for example then the pup will be on very limited exercise for quite a while. Good for you getting another opinion - pls let us know how things go..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 In my opinion..rest him until you get him to another vet.I would think exercising weak/damaged joints would only make things worse.... Best of luck..he sounds a lucky boy..I dread to think what the rest of the litter are going thru!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne Posted January 10, 2005 Author Share Posted January 10, 2005 Thanks everyone for the advice. I am sitting here typing this with tears rolling down my face watching him happily play with my other dog. Totally unaware of any uncertainess for his little life. So very, very sad. Cheers Roxanne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouledogue Français Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 I live just outside Canberra ACT. Ok, I can't help you but somebody that way may be able to direct you to a good ortho vet. Please let us know what happens. I will keep my fingers crossed for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Would you travel to Sydney ? I know a great vet in Sydney... Dr Rob Zammit.. He is a vet and a breeder. He also has specialists that come in from time to time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 The sad thing is that he was allowed to get like this!! the really GOOD thing is that he's come to YOU,and even if his life is to be very short,at least he is enjoying life at your place. Hope U don't mind, but your story reminded me... A digression.( this was about 30 yrs. ago) In my last yearof high school..my old mini foxie died. I wanted a quick replacement, saw an ad in the paper, rang up,& got a pup delivered. When I came home, my mum was crying..& when she showed me, I understood why!! A TINY black & tan scrap, with one eye popped, hardly any hair, a HUGE pot-belly,& fleas visibly jumping around !! I took her to the vet( a lady not known for diplomacy). The vet held pup up ,swore & dropped pup on the table saying..."put the poor thing out of its misery now!" Well,I dissolved in tears enough to scare the whole waiting room,& she relented & got on the phone to the man from whom I'd bought it!!! I am suprised the phone didn't melt Anyhow...her eye abscess was fixed, the mange eventually cleared,the worms & fleas were gotten rid of, the previous owner paid the bills,& I ended up with the BEST little dog for the next 13 years!! She turned out to be a dachsie x..with legs about an inch long..fuzzy fur, & the nick name of "toilet brush'! She was a great watch dog, would work sheep,catch rabbits,& was just a terrific companion. Some of 'em are worth it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trifecta Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Roxanne, have e-mailed you re vet in Canberra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divine Angel Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Hmmm, I'm intrigued now! I have the feeling that the puppy needs healing, have you thought about alternative healing methods? Just the gut instinct I'm getting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne Posted January 10, 2005 Author Share Posted January 10, 2005 From looking at him I think he needs his legs to be splinted into the correct position. I haven't consider alternative treatment as I am not sure what would be appropriate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 From the diet he was given before, it does sound like a calcium defieciency and he looks down in the pasterns. Of course I would check to make sure that is the problem with the vet. Holly has some great before and after photos of a pup with a similar problem. I say go with a BARF diet Will give him the correct calcium/phosperous ratio in his diet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne Posted January 10, 2005 Author Share Posted January 10, 2005 Lia, How do I get a hold of Holly and her pics? Roxanne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterpaws Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Roxanne here are some alternative healing places that might help http://www.wholisticanimal.com/ http://www.greenpet.com.au/ A resource that may be useful to you; http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/ I can also put you onto some holistic email groups if you are interested and you could post your story. Please feel free to PM me if you would like details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scales of Justice Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Roxanne, This condition looks typical of what happens with large breeds with incorrect feeding. If the breeder has only fed meat this would cause an imbalance. It is imperative that you don't use guesswork with this pup's diet. You should get this puppy onto a totally balanced diet (a puppy growth formula with no extras) straight away and the situation may quite possibly right itself once the imbalance has been attended to. Minimal exercise. Good suggestion to see Robert Zammit in Sydney. To all the others who said that the puppy should be shipped back to the breeder ie. out of sight out of mind, problem will go away - what about the poor puppy? The puppy is a living being and deserves a chance and should not be treated like a commodity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Search for 'Flat Feet' I think on General Dog Discussion. Holly has posted the pic and info on a few threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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