rajacadoo Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 :D :D Temp at 8.30pm was 36.9... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aziah Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 So looks like you caught the lowest temp at around 36.2 now take 12-24 hours and you should have babies Good luck, I'm off to bed, maybe some news in the morning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamSnag Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Anything yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamSnag Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Ok i take it as a no lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajacadoo Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Yeah, sorry TS... It was a no ... Slept well overnight, ate breakfast this am, temp 36.9 :p So still.................................................. ;) Methinks I might be joining the July thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShesaLikeableBiBear Posted June 23, 2010 Author Share Posted June 23, 2010 rajacadoo, patience is a virtue when you have a bitch in whelp Temps do fluctuate a littlle, but going as low as 36.2 is a good sign, you will NOT be joining the July thread.l ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ellz Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 That's a terribly low drop, for a new thermometer especially for there to be NOTHING happening. Rajacadoo-doo-doo, you probably don't want to hear this, but if she hasn't started to do anything by 24 hours after the lowest drop you recorded, then I'd be thinking about trundling off to the vet for a checkup. At a guess they may want to do a progesterone reading but certainly with the kind of drop that was evident, if nothing happens soonish then you should be on the alert for issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaceful Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 I wouldn't worry. She will have them when she is good and ready. I dont take temperatures anymore....so if you didnt take her temp. you would never know when it dropped and wouldn't be worried at all The only time I would worry is if she has gone overdue. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellz Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 I wouldn't worry.She will have them when she is good and ready. I dont take temperatures anymore....so if you didnt take her temp. you would never know when it dropped and wouldn't be worried at all The only time I would worry is if she has gone overdue. Good luck Sorry, don't agree. If I'd not been vigilant, I would have lost not only my 9 Stafford puppies, but probably the bitch as well. Symptoms? Temperature drop on Day 58 and no progression after that. Diagnosis....twisted mess of birth canal and puppies. Placental separation. Outcome...successful c-section and 9 living puppies and a healthy mother on Day 59. Due to the placement of the puppies internally, there was NO WAY she would have been able to have the litter naturally. Gut instinct and timely veterinary intervention as well as meticulous record-keeping were what saved my bitch and puppies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aziah Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 That's a terribly low drop, for a new thermometer especially for there to be NOTHING happening.Rajacadoo-doo-doo, you probably don't want to hear this, but if she hasn't started to do anything by 24 hours after the lowest drop you recorded, then I'd be thinking about trundling off to the vet for a checkup. At a guess they may want to do a progesterone reading but certainly with the kind of drop that was evident, if nothing happens soonish then you should be on the alert for issues. I agree with Ellz - far better to be safe than sorry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavalblaze Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Arh what the, came in to see how the whelping went last night for rajacadoo and your bitch still hasn't delivered. She must have decided a day litter is more appropiate ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaceful Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 So sorry to hear about your troublesome time Ellz. I'm sure there are lots of horror stories out there and I've had my own as well but I'm sure that these are the exception rather than the rule. Most litters are straighforward and trouble free. Rajacadoos breed are easy whelpers as chocolate has already stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellz Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Peaceful, I've got 24 years of breeding under my belt. I don't tend to panic. I'm not particularly fond of taking my dogs to vets as a rule. It has been my experience to date that vets don't tend to know as much about whelping as breeders do, but they DO have access to diagnostic tools that breeders generally don't! I think Rajacadoo knows me well enough to know that my advice, knowing her AND her dogs personally as I do, is well-intentioned and has basis for consideration and that I'm not a worry wart and tend to be quite laidback in my approach to animal husbandry.....within reason. In my opinion, it doesn't matter how well renowned a breed is for being easy whelpers, it doesn't hurt to be vigilant particularly when the bitch is a maiden and the owner is not experienced and already worrying (and literally has been since the minute the bitch was bred). I don't think that my advice to tread carefully is unneccessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blakbelgian Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 I hope you have an easy whelp DURING DAY TIME Rajacadoo. I am counting the days until Jess has hers. She is day 60 on Friday from first mating. I haven't been taking her temp either as I can't find a working battery operated thermomoter, I have several that the battery has died and haven't got around to replacing them. BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaceful Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 (edited) I understand your concern Ellz and I dont think your advice to tread carefully is unnecessary either. Usually when temperatures are taken of bitches in whelp it is done over a lengthy period of time to get a baseline of her "normal" in whelp temperature so when it drops "considerably" you know its getting close. As far as I can see from looking back through this thread Rajacadoo only began taking her girls temperatures on the 21st of this month...today is the 24th.... not really enough to state categorically that a drastic temperature drop has occurred allowing for differences in levels of excitement in the bitch which can alter the temperature, also allowing for calibration of the thermometer and human error. Edited June 23, 2010 by peaceful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellz Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 A temperature drop is a temperature drop. With modern technology and digital thermometers, the margin of error is dramatically reduced and as for operator error.....I'd think that Rajacadoo's prior experience in the medical field would count that out! Should probably add here too that given that Rajacadoo lives more than 5 minutes from a vet and doesn't drive herself so is largely dependent upon her OH being home from work, a trip to the vet on a suspicion is probably more in order than leaving things until they are an emergency and finding herself in a real pickle. BUT, be that as it may, I have everything crossed for a safe and easy daytime whelping with little or no veterinary intervention. And Rajacadoo-doo-doo my bondaged one....our previous contact methods are up and running.....you know the numbers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShesaLikeableBiBear Posted June 24, 2010 Author Share Posted June 24, 2010 peaceful, I started taking my maiden bitch's temp on 09 June, there was a marked difference on 11 June, being 37.5, 36.8 and 37.3, she whelped on 12 June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaceful Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Ok ok ok ok ok ok ok I guess we will find out soon enough when things start to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 I don't take temperatures and have touch wood never had a problem with a bitch whelping. Raja's pups are not due yet so I wouldn't be panicking but I think she will be now after reading this thread. I regularly feel the belly to check for movement of the pups and if they are kicking and mum is acting completely normal then I wouldn't be going to the vet prior to the due date. Is your thermometer a digital one Raja? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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