HugUrPup Posted April 17, 2010 Author Share Posted April 17, 2010 I think Ollie is one of the taller ones, so his weight will probably be a bit heavier than the standard. He looked ok at 10kg's comparing to the links Sammy ballerina posted. His breathing is terrible when he walks more than 15 minutes..in hot weather he can't walk at all.. but I am hoping surgery will help with that. Once he can walk further it will help get that little bit of extra weight off. In the mean time I will just keep doing what I am doing, he's not as obese as I thought initially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 (edited) Actually with pugs the breed standard weight isnt a very good indicator as alot of pugs are taller than what they should, its a sad fact but the breed has gotten bigger! Its always nice to see a correctly sized pug thou! Weren't pugs originally a bit taller than the breed standard of "today"? I must admit that I like pugs with a bit of leg (but still with that 'box' look so that the body length ratio is still in proportion). ETA: I use weight (scale measurements) standard as a guide only. It's the visual and 'feel' to me that bears the most importance. Edited April 17, 2010 by Erny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 (edited) I tend to agree with you Erny, some like to keep their pugs what I would call fat because they think it makes them look like they have good bone which is important in the breed...silly really!!! Thanks SB. Sadly, it's not only Pugs that are affected by this (false) perception. For example I see many Rotties this way as well. I've referenced them before in another thread as the "Lab's second coming". But there are other breeds as well, that I commonly see overweight. Golden Retrievers are another. Beagles and JRT's another. However, the 'over weight' issue is not really restricted to any 'one' breed. ETA: (sort of) ..... I think some people, without necessarily being aware of it, like their dogs fatter too, for the fact that it renders the dogs less energetic and from their pov, more 'manageable' with the least amount of effort from the owner. Over the years I've worked with dogs who were in for B&T, who were too fat to properly cope with the standard of obedience that I otherwise knew they had the potential for. One owner I had to tell that until his (obese) dog lost some weight I would not work him for speedy recalls; fast drops; CoP; and releases etc. It just wouldn't have been fair. Poor dog. Edited April 17, 2010 by Erny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puggy_puggy Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Come to 'correct weight' pug land and we will give you and honest opinon of Ollie's weight. Even vets have no idea of the correct weight of pugs because all the see is fat and obese pugs. So often people who surrender tell me that their vet said their pug only needed to lose about 1kg. That 1kg more often then not should be more like 3kg. Vets and specalists often say it is nice to see a healthy slim pug when they see mine. The Frankie that is being talked about is Pug Rescues 'demodex mange boy'. He has not got an ounce of fat on him and is lean and strong. Stunning looking boy now his hair has nearly grown back. Erny there are two different breed lines in pugs that are still evident. One is the shorter more stocky whilst the other is the taller more leggy. Even if you have a shorter more stocky pug it should not be carry excess weight. My female is short and stocky but has a lovely waist on her and weighs all of 6.3kg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirst_goldens Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 i find that vets are very reluctant to tell people their dogs or cats are overwieght because alot of owners dont like to hear it and the vets fear they are alienating the clients and that they will loose them as clients... which i think is a crock... they should be stating very clearly your dog is overweight and help the owner create a sensible plan to help the dog loose the extra weight and keep their clients in the long run?? I also think a few kgs to go on ur little puggy boy - he is a pet so could be a little lighter to help with his breathing and joints as well i know many will disagree but i think if its a pet keep it lean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugUrPup Posted April 17, 2010 Author Share Posted April 17, 2010 Ollie is visiting Pug Wonderland in the morning to find out is he needs fat camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 i find that vets are very reluctant to tell people their dogs or cats are overwieght because alot of owners dont like to hear it ... Hi Kirst Yes - I'm afraid I hurt the feelings of a number of clients that I see about their dog's behaviour issues, when I inform them their dog is too fat. But someone's got to say it, for their dog's sake and most people fortunately get past the fact that they didn't like to hear it and understand it is only because I have their dog's best interests at heart. Just as they do, except with no-one making a 'deal' about it I think they think it's not that bad. Ignorance begets ignorance and I agree that Vets need to (a) get out more and see what fit/good-weight dogs look like and (b) not be afraid to be the dog's voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staranais Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 i find that vets are very reluctant to tell people their dogs or cats are overwieght because alot of owners dont like to hear it and the vets fear they are alienating the clients and that they will loose them as clients... Especially if the owner is more than a little pudgy themselves. The good vets I've seen practice with have pulled it off well, but believe me, it can get kind of awkward sometimes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugUrPup Posted April 17, 2010 Author Share Posted April 17, 2010 I can imagine.. your pug is fat..and you could lose a few too love tact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsha_UK_AU Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 I can imagine.. your pug is fat..and you could lose a few too :D love tact. I am overweight....well...more than just over weight....so I am borderline paranoid about the amount I feed my two. When D'Artagnan came to us, he would pick at food and eat every 1-3 days...we now have him eating daily....so I adjust his food regularly and am concious that fat owner does not equal fat cavalier! Susan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugUrPup Posted April 18, 2010 Author Share Posted April 18, 2010 well I am obese and I have one fat dog and one medium dog, so I guess it may have more to do with metabolism than anything else. Some people and dogs need less food and more exercise than others..which sucks, because I want my pancake and don't want to have to jog for an hour to burn it off dammit :D Miley sometimes goes days without food too.. I have never seen Ollie do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugUrPup Posted April 18, 2010 Author Share Posted April 18, 2010 The verdict is in and Ollie is FAT!!! :D puggy puggy is emailing us his new diet Fat camp begins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 Puggerup ..... good for you for being concerned and wanting to do something about it . Many people don't and even when you tell them they do all the 'nodding' and make all the right murmering, but then just go home and feed their dog the same, or perhaps potentially more to make up for the guilt the human feels. Good luck for Ollie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevafollo Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 The verdict is in and Ollie is FAT!!! puggy puggy is emailing us his new diet Fat camp begins. Its awesome that puggy puggy was able to get her hands on him and help you, it is hard to advise just going from piccys. So how much more weight are you aiming to get off him? Good luck with the new diet I hope he trims up quick smart for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huga Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 (edited) He looks a bit on the chunky side, easily done with pugs though. If he was mine, I'd like to see an actual tuck and waist Lola's a bit finer than Ollie, but I like to be able to see the outline of her last rib: Edited April 18, 2010 by huga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puggy_puggy Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 (edited) Gorgouse Ollie came to visit. He thought he might like take home Clementine as his puggy girlfriend. Ollie could do with losing at least 2kg maybe possibly 3kg. In my opinion his breathing is that of an overweight pug who is hot and not coping with the excess weight. I do not believe he has soft pallet issues. Once the weight is off him his breathing should improve. Ollie now has a new diet. So hopefully the weight will start to come off him quickly. Edited April 18, 2010 by puggy_puggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugUrPup Posted April 18, 2010 Author Share Posted April 18, 2010 Lola looks perfect.. and her eyes always amaze me.. totally beautiful I want to take around 2.5kg's off Ollie. I am trying him on a raw diet again.. he has vomited from it in the past but now I think it may have been because I was giving him too much. I was giving him a mega fist size of roo meat or 3 chicken necks rather than 1-2 small ones. I just bought all the supplies for the next week and I will portion them out in singles serves tonight and blend the vegies. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugUrPup Posted April 18, 2010 Author Share Posted April 18, 2010 Oh snap puggy puggy we posted at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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